France....

[ledhed]

Joan de Arch didn't help win anything but a few battles. Then she was turned over to the brits to be fried up. Also you do realize that the Normans conquered much of Britian and ruled that country for a very long time. The normans were French just thought I'd mention it. Also must say one of my favorite 's the Black Prince did kick the Frenchy's butt big time. A perfect example of French arrogance would be the battle of Agicourt. Another in modern times would be the battle at Dien Bien Phu in Vietnam. If anyone is curiouse as to why the Arabs hate the west you need search no further than the Suez . When France Britian and Isreal all conspired against Nasser to take away the Suez canal by force from Egypt, after Nasser told the former colonial rulers to go bugger off. The French and freinds screwed that up big time. Then ask about French genocide in Algeria. You also may want to bring up the Dreyfuss afair. While your at it, devils Island was a nice French resort for the impolitic and anyone else they did not care for..can you say political prisoners ? Lets not even mention the French revolution ..I am free,, now off with your head !

 

[Belda_Da_Hun]

Originally posted by ledhed
Joan de Arch didn't help win anything but a few battles. Then she was turned over to the brits to be fried up. Also you do realize that the Normans conquered much of Britian and ruled that country for a very long time. The normans were French just thought I'd mention it. Also must say one of my favorite 's the Black Prince did kick the Frenchy's butt big time. A perfect example of French arrogance would be the battle of Agicourt.

i think you like the french now

 

[rjensen11]

Ledhed, the reason why France took over England was because England didn't have any pre-existing government that had any stability. After the Roman Empire collapsed, France was one of the quicker provinces to recover(not saying that they recovered quickly, but in perspective of the other countries at that time....). But France yeah, they took over England, set up a monarchy there(so England had its own government), and then left it.

Joan didn't just win "but a few battles", she turned the tables, got England on the defensive, and gave France the upperhand, so in essence, she helped France win the war.

 

[ledhed]

I did edit my post..seems the French handed her over to the Brits as a reward for her services . Much as they did the Americans who escaped the Japanese at Bataan thinking that they were safe with their Fench comerades. I'm sure the Japanese were very gratefull. If France was sucked into a wormhole would anyone care ?

 

[keeno_uk]

Ledhed why did you burn me for no reason? its not like I insulted you in my post or you couldnt stand me typing french in my post which could have insulted you

 

[ledhed]

Don't take it like that ..nothing whatsoever against you or anyone else who may wonder why I am annoyed at the French Sa la vie or somthing...no burn intended or implied. I think I was just taking sarcasm to new height s by suggesting to you that its all Frances fault that the US exist and is able to save thier butts and all the rest of the things like massacre Indians and create new countries and stuff that we do . nes ces pa ?

 

[Red Eye Racer]

Originally posted by Klostrophobic
Yeah, you have multiple times. You've even asked "Did I mention the French suck yet?" multiple times.

You're thick.

So are you but instead it rymes with thick.

 

[Klostrophobic]

Ouch. Considering how thick I am could you PM me the word that rhymes with thick?

Thanks!

 

[ledhed]

You are free now off with there heads ! vive le revolution !

 

[milefile]

I watched a documentary about the guillotine over the weekend. I can see why France might have an irrational fear of violence. It could be a backlash of their former, yet recent, obsessive love affair with it.

 

[vat_man]

'Irrational fear of violence' - what a great phrase.

 

[Concept]

Originally posted by milefile
France should have nothing to say. I have a new prejudice. I am anti-French. They should also be totally excluded from the rebuilding of Iraq, as should Germany. They are so hypocrytical. It's really rather pathetic.

So what if France didn't agree with us. Whoopty doo. Half of America doesn't want this war goign on. France feels the same way millions of Americans do. So are you Anti-American? I if so, you're anti-me. I hate Bush. This whole war is a load of piss.

 

[keeno_uk]

I can't belive it an american on my side damn near impossible

 

[milefile]

Originally posted by Concept
Half of America doesn't want this war goign on.

Wrong. Check your numbers. Bla bla bla.

So are you Anti-American? I if so, you're anti-me.

Sometimes.

I hate Bush.

That's reasonable. So what?

I love that rolleyes smiley. It just says it all.

 

[ledhed]

Another of the few the proud the ignorant. When you learn to add let me know. The worst way to try to make a valid point is to start off with a statement that is either imaginary or quite possibly the result of a hallucination.
Fact France and Russia have contracts signed with Saddam Hussein worth billions . Fact , France's government was against the removal of Saddam by any means and they were against the war because they felt that the inspectors after 12 years may have been able eventually to disarm Iraq someday maybe we think. The French are hippocritical slime balls..thats just an opinion.
The French were happy to conduct a very profitable business with a ruthless dictator who was responsible for countless atrocities and wars against his neighboring country's. Thats a fact. The French did everything they could to try to keep there relationship ,and Saddam ,in power so they could GET FRIGGIN PAID YOU MORON !
What the hell is so hard to understand about that ? Hence the French are lower than a 2 year old butt nuget..thats an opinion. Or is that also a fact ?

 

[DGB454]

Butt nuget.

 

[Klostrophobic]

I've seen a couple statistics. Are we really speding 80 billion dollars to destroy Iraq and then spending more to rebuild it?

That doesn't sound worth it, considering Saddam may have had big mother weapons.

 

[Red Eye Racer]

Originally posted by Klostrophobic
I've seen a couple statistics. Are we really speding 80 billion dollars to destroy Iraq and then spending more to rebuild it?

That doesn't sound worth it, considering Saddam may have had big mother weapons.

from what I've *heared* (I'm stupid, so you may want to stop reading now) is that Iraq is paying us back.

 

[Klostrophobic]

I doubt they have 80 billion dollars. If that is a correct statistic.

 

[1X83Z]

Originally posted by Klostrophobic
I doubt they have 80 billion dollars. If that is a correct statistic.

When he says 'paying us back' he probably means in eventual money - oil money, for instance. They probably don't have $80bn, but I think that stat is a bit inflated yet.

 

[Red Eye Racer]

yes,.. eventual money,. from what I've heared it's gonna take more than 30 years,. but then again,... my brain is a horrible source to try and pull old information from, so you can take that with a grain of salt.

 

[1X83Z]

Originally posted by Red Eye Racer
yes,.. eventual money,. from what I've heared it's gonna take more than 30 years

It could take forever - we've still got US forces in both Japan and Germany, sixty years after their own 'liberation.'

 

[Concept]

Originally posted by milefile
Wrong. Check your numbers. Bla bla bla.

Sorry for the exageration there, I'm just trying to get the point across that millions of Americans are against the war. There are also millions for it. Ahh, shut up Concept.

 

[Klostrophobic]

Number for the war > Number against the war.

Besides, it doesn't come down to how many people are for or against the war. Though it could hurt a president's chances of re-election.

In this case I think it is safe to say Bush has secured himself another 4 years as commander in chief.

 

[milefile]

Better than his daddy.

 

[made in holland]

Originally posted by Klostrophobic

In this case I think it is safe to say Bush has secured himself another 4 years as commander in chief.

Great!
There are a lot more countries with chemical weapons and/or weapons of mass-destruction in the Middle East.

He will be a busy man the next 5 years.

 

[milefile]

Originally posted by made in holland


He will be a busy man the next 5 years.

Seriously.

 

[DGB454]

I vote for Korea.

 

[milefile]

Nah. Korea has some smart nighbors and they'll infuence them.

The Middle East is a gang of focked up shlt hole countries who all pretty much hate America and would band together if they had half a chance, like they did to some extent against Israel.

First Syria. Then Iran. Iran woul be a piece of cake as there is already a huge democratic movement there.

 

[ledhed]

Hmmm right now alot of countries are a bit scared of the US. Taking out a country the size of Iraq with a sophisticated and veteran army in 28 days has shocked alot of people and scared the crap out of some others. Especially when they consider the disparity in casualties. So naturaly you are hearing some tough talk out of the US administration. The troops are on the ground and armed and dangerouse and can move in alot of directions. Don't be too suprised if alot of diplomacy gets started and becomes fruitfull in the next six months. Raw naked power tends to have that effect on people who rule and keep order using their military and special police. For proof see the sudden change of heart by the North Koreans and Chinese. Direct talks will begin with the North Koreans and China will have an equal role something the North has been dead set against. Seems more than just the Iraqi's are shocked and awed. Gives new meaning to" war is just continued diplomacy by other methods" Come back and read this again six months or so from now.