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Saying that, I have no idea about what was up with the braking last night.. Was all over the damn place!
 
There was a little incident on lap 7 with Orama and Joe (I think it was them but don't quote me on it)
I think what happened was Joe rolled. But on my screen (and presumably yours) it looked like he just went straight on plowing into you. I thought that was a bit odd.

@snowgt I didn't purposely D-bomb you and Carb. I braked when I normally would but the car didnt slow. I then let off the brakes to avoid hitting either of you. I believe it happened to others during the night. I think in R1 it happened to @Yeratel84 but there wasnt anyone in front of him so he only went deep into T1.
Also @snowgt I believe I was pushed into you into the chicane. Either way it wasnt on purpose so I don't see why you had to use me as a brake for the rest of the first sector :/
 
Can we just have a general clampdown on divebombing from now on? The incident that I quoted on the last page wasn't anything about moving over on my part, it was literally trying to make up 5/6 car lengths under braking, which is never going to work. And grip was weird last night, the last lap in R3 I braked earlier than usual into turn 1 but ended up way off track :odd:
 
And grip was weird last night, the last lap in R3 I braked earlier than usual into turn 1 but ended up way off track :odd:
I had that too with Snow as I could brake later than the FWD's into T1 but for some reason it didn't grip at all and I went straight on. The car was beautiful at the start and the tyres switched on really well and I was looking for a podium but as it got wetter my traction got worse so that I was just getting mugged off the corners.
 
I don't suppose anyone had any issues with my overly defensive driving? ^^
Nope, you were just fine

Also, 👍 to @gokartman78 for when you overtook me on the outside off the track and then let me back past. I would have returned the favour when I almost did it later but I think I was still on track. If I would have slowed I would have collected whoever was behind you
 
Can we just have a general clampdown on divebombing from now on? The incident that I quoted on the last page wasn't anything about moving over on my part, it was literally trying to make up 5/6 car lengths under braking, which is never going to work. And grip was weird last night, the last lap in R3 I braked earlier than usual into turn 1 but ended up way off track :odd:



Both cars not on the brakes and not even a car length behind
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Already has an overlap at this point
Now starting to move over
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So if I hadn't hit scania then you would have looking at that, you can thank me for taking your points then.

I'm not saying I shouldn't have got points but some people and being rather creative in blowing it out of proportion.
 
I only moved over because I thought that nobody in their right mind would divebomb me. Also, I was never going to touch Scania, because i'd braked at the correct distance.
 
I only moved over because I thought that nobody in their right mind would divebomb me. Also, I was never going to touch Scania, because i'd braked at the correct distance.
So you didn't use the mirrors as noted above well at least we cleared that up.
 
At Silverstone testing in the full wet I could keep up with Yera so I guess the slower tracks are where the Hyundai is not so good.

Don't forget we didn't get anywhere near those levels of water on surface last night... between 5%-20% is the Civic's sweetspot as the car gains some slight oversteer mid-corner which helps with the exit as the car gets pointed towards it sooner and allows you to accelerate earlier...

Quite selective when you've skipped the parts when both of them moved over in the braking areas making contact with me pushing at those angles :) and you still didn't explain you pushing me into scania.
As I said in the one you actually did move over in the braking area which upset the balance of the car and once the rangey is upset under brakes then it's hard to stop the 1300kg with the high centre.
I always signaled my intension by moving my car off line if people still move across under the braking area (which in yeras pictures they did both hsv and panoz but you can also see my car is "offline") then it shows the other drivers aren't using mirrors which they really should.
If I had someone who's car as one of the best brakes and seen them offline in my mirrors coming to a corner then I would leave room as would suspect they would be coming down the inside and I would try and get them on corner exit like what both snow and gkm did with me. The mirrors are there for a reason.
Oh and btw you didn't make up 2 slots on that move because you didn't get past me.
I think maybe the rangey should be +5 Bhp than +10 as it did seem abit quick although the fords were still leaving me for dead in the straights along with race and dks Honda.

I didn't mention that "pushing" because when we braked for T3 I was on your inside, yet you chose to turn into the corner like I wasn't there (quite hypocritical situation, given you're the one talking about using mirrors to check on cars behind you), promoting the contact and pushing you wide into Scania. Also unlike you, I lifted off and positioned myself behind you two for T4...

Also this is the last time I'll refer to these as you're just too deluded regarding your car and/or driving capabilities...
 
I did look behind me, and I saw a car that was a long way away from me. When I looked again, it was barreling up the inside of me.
 
It was lap 1 guys, plenty of time to gain places and the bunching (especially in ToCA) was always going to cause a problem at a stop/start type of track.
 
Barf. I wake up to this...

@Holdenhsvgtsr In that particular incident the contact with HSV did result in the Scania spin.

Agreed on driving, people know by now, and "I lost patience" shouldn't be an excuse anymore.

Might go WIllow testing tonight, I didn't note down R2 and R3 results so i'm doing that now for standings 👍
 
The Range Rover really is huge and always reminds me what I hate about SUVs. You really don't see anything following close behind one.

By the way, regarding BoP: The RR had a best lap of 1:32.7 without any draft in race 1. That was a whopping 0.8 faster than anyone else.
It was always going to be fast round here, as you said it has loads of torque, and its ability to go over kerbs really well meant it was going to be very fast. From what i've seen of it, if you can get the nose in it's a really balanced car, which is crucial for the fast corners leading onto the back straight. He always gained a tenth or two through those corners alone.

Not to mention AMD drove a lot better in that race than I have seen from him all season. He made 3 mistakes in the race, and unfortunately for him, 2 of them ended up in him getting caught in the gravel. He was sublime on the brakes when he came past me, he left it late but he did get it slowed down and there was no contact.
 
Apparently Makes title fight is still going strong, after Honda gained 38 points on Ford to bring the gap to the lead to only 5 points... 👍

Yep looking forward to it. Willows a strong track for both cars.

Rules coming in for next season by the way to prevent as much driver car changes, and ensure teams stay stronger.
 
The top 12 has never seemed so far away. :(
 
Ok, so granted 3 weeks of pts races left. But I can confirm 4 RPM Ford Focuses will be on the ToCA11 entry list :)
 
Yep looking forward to it. Willows a strong track for both cars.

Rules coming in for next season by the way to prevent as much driver car changes, and ensure teams stay stronger.

Forgot to mention that Nurb was the first track where the top 3 didn't get a victory...
 
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