Fully Modified Lap Times

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Hi guys, based on what @SuzukaStar has done with his Suzuka testing in stock cars, I wanted to test all of the cars in the game in their fully tuned state - by which I mean I have:

  • Changed Oil
  • All Engine Rebuilds
  • All Chassis Upgrades & Rebuilds
  • All Parts installed - Performance & Weight Reduction
  • Racing Soft on all Vehicles
  • Nitrous/NOS installed on all vehicles that allow this to be installed. NOS will be written next to the results for these vehicles.
  • Basically everything is done to the car to improve it's performance to the maximum the game allows.
  • HOWEVER: I have not applied Setups, all cars were tested with their "stock setups" after tuning parts applied.
  • ADDITIONAL: Aero is tweaked to its maximum setting on all cars Front & Rear - WHERE AVAILABLE, also NOS is set to its maximum boost output on all cars - WHERE AVAILABLE.
First off let me say this, I am not starting an argument about whether stock is better than tuned, or whether we should use Comfort tyres on road cars, or whether NOS is relevant bla bla bla bla bla bla, everyone is entitled to their opinion, and is allowed to play their video game however they wish.

Personally I enjoy fully tuning the vehicles and I wanted to do lap times to get a comparison of all of GT6's vehicles.

So some stats about how I am gaming:
  • Controller: Logitech G27
  • Gears: Manual Gears; Using the paddle shifts.
  • ABS on all cars was set to: "1"
  • Aids: Everything else is set to "Off" and Traction Control on all cars is set to "0".
  • However; I use the Racing Line and the function that gives me a suggested gear for the upcoming corner.
The Track I have selected for this set of laps is the Tsukuba circuit in Japan. I chose it because it is a solid test of handling, it does not have extravagant straight line sections, but there is one long straight enough to show if a car has too short gearing or no power. This circuit has it's advantages and disadvantages of course. But it's the one I chose for this little operation :p

So here are the first 68 cars that have been tested so far.

  1. Spoon CR-Z; 453PP; 0:53.965 NOS
  2. Opel Corsa Comfort 1.4 '01; 462PP; 0:54.202 NOS
  3. Vauxhall Corsa Comfort 1.4 '01; 462PP; 0:54.209 NOS
  4. Citroen Xsara VTR '03; 454PP; 0:54.362 NOS
  5. Spoon FIT Race Car '03; 437PP; 0:54.512 NOS
  6. Daihatsu OFC-1 '07; 443P; 0:54.521 NOS
  7. Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint Speciale '63; 443PP; 0:54.596 NOS
  8. Nissan SKYLINE 2000GT-R (KPGC110) '73; 458PP; 0:54.705 NOS
  9. Suzuki Kei WORKS '02; 443PP; 0:54.725 NOS
  10. Suzuki CERVO SR '07; 451PP; 0:54.888 NOS
  11. Toyota Yaris F (J) '99; 457PP; 0:54.947 NOS
  12. Suzuki MR Wagon Sport '04; 430PP; 0:55.001 NOS
  13. Daihatsu STORIA CX 2WD '98; 450PP; 0:55.023 NOS
  14. Daihatsu SIRION CX 2WD (J) '98; 450PP; 0:55.034 NOS
  15. Honda S800 RSC '68; 444PP; 0:55.045 NOS
  16. Nissan SILVIA Q's (S13) '88; 456PP; 0:55.058 NOS
  17. Scion xB '03; 461PP; 0:55.068 NOS
  18. Daihatsu Copen Detachable Top '02; 454PP; 0:55.085 NOS
  19. Toyota Vitz F '99; 457PP; 0:55.100 NOS
  20. Honda 1300 Coupe 9 S '70; 463 PP; 0:55.123 NOS
  21. Daihatsu SIRION CX 4WD (J) '98; 439PP; 0:55.136 NOS
  22. Volkswagen Karmann Ghia Coupe (Type-1) '68; 450PP; 0:55.170 NOS
  23. Honda BEAT Version Z '93; 461PP; 0:55.180 NOS
  24. Daihatsu Copen Active Top '02; 446PP; 0:55.279 NOS
  25. Daihatsu STORIA CX 4WD '98; 439PP; 0:55.368 NOS
  26. Nissan SILVIA Q's (S13) '91; 464PP; 0:55.398 NOS
  27. Alfa Romeo Spider 1600 Duetto '66; 447PP; 0:55.423 NOS
  28. Nissan Cube EX (FF/CVT) '02; 456PP; 0:55.543 NOS
  29. =Nissan BLUEBIRD 1600 Deluxe (510) '69; 461PP; 0:55.589 NOS
  30. =Honda BEAT '91; 462PP; 0:55.589 NOS
  31. Honda S800 '66; 433PP; 0:55.773 NOS
  32. Nissan PAO '89; 450PP; 0:55.823 NOS
  33. Honda BEAT Version F '92; 461PP; 0:56.154 NOS
  34. Daihatsu MOVE CX '95; 429PP; 0:56.778 NOS
  35. Nissan SKYLINE 2000GT-B (S54B) '67; 453PP; 0:56.863 NOS
  36. Honda ELEMENT '03; 448PP; 0:56.894 NOS
  37. Daihatsu MOVE SR-XX 2WD '97; 426PP; 0:56.963 NOS
  38. Suzuki ALTO WORKS RS-Z '97; 462PP; 0:57.217 NOS
  39. Suzuki WAGON R RR '98; 428PP; 0:57.253 NOS
  40. Nissan SKYLINE Sport Coupe (BLRA-3) '62; 432PP; 0:57.387 NOS
  41. Suzuki ALTO LAPIN Turbo '02; 418PP; 0:57.463 NOS
  42. Daihatsu MOVE Custom RS Limited '02; 415PP; 0:57.619 NOS
  43. Daihatsu MOVE SR-XX 4WD '97; 418PP; 0:57.649 NOS
  44. Nissan SKYLINE 1500Deluxe (S50D-1) '63; 446PP; 0:57.747 NOS
  45. Honda S600 '64; 380PP; 0:57.891 NOS
  46. Mazda Autozam AZ-1 '92; 457PP; 0:58.169 NOS
  47. Toyota PRIUS Touring Car; 445PP; 0:58.542
  48. Honda INSIGHT '99; 455PP; 0:58.977
  49. Honda INSIGHT LS '09; 435PP; 0:59.153
  50. Volkswagen Sambabus Typ 2 (T1) '62; 418PP; 0:59.917 NOS
  51. Honda S500 '63; 375PP; 1:00.019 NOS
  52. Honda TODAY G '85; 397PP; 1:00.109 NOS
  53. Hudson Mario Andretti's 1948 Hudson; 411PP; 1:00.134 NOS
  54. Honda Z ACT '70; 394PP; 1:01.420 NOS
  55. Volkswagen Beetle 1100 Standard (Type-11) '49; 425PP; 1:01.705 NOS
  56. Daihatsu Midget II D type '98; 464PP; 1:02.288 NOS
  57. Toyota PRIUS G '09; 382PP; 1:04.254
  58. Toyota Aqua S '11; 372PP; 1:04.668
  59. Volkswagen Schwimmwagen Typ 166 '42; 425PP; 1:05.150 NOS
  60. Volkswagen Kubelwagen Typ 82 '44; 450PP; 1:05.700 NOS
  61. Mazda Carol 360 Deluxe '62; 349PP; 1:05.919 NOS
  62. Toyota PRIUS G Touring Selection (J) '03; 353PP; 1:06.451
  63. Honda LIFE STEP VAN '72; 431PP; 1:07.099 NOS
  64. Toyota PRIUS G (J) '02; 368PP; 1:07.326
  65. Nissan Leaf G '11; 349PP; 1:07.802
  66. Citroen 2CV Type A '54; 373PP; 1:07.894 NOS
  67. Mitsubishi i-MiEV '09; 307PP; 1:12.998
  68. Gran Turismo Racing Kart Junior; 378PP; 1:18.943

I did another 10 cars today, taking a while to get through these hehe, don't worry I'll constantly update it when I do more laps
 
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So rather: "Fully Modified Lap Times"

...and what exactly are your results supposed to show? Try a test with the '70 Challenger, fully modified and untuned as per your criteria. 118mph gearing with 826hp and ~4kgf/mm spring rate with racing softs.
 
ipswich1992
Hi guys, based on what @SuzukaStar has done with his Suzuka testing in stock cars, I wanted to test all of the cars in the game in their fully tuned state - by which I mean I have:

  • Changed Oil
  • All Engine Rebuilds
  • All Chassis Upgrades & Rebuilds
  • All Parts installed - Performance & Weight Reduction
  • Racing Soft on all Vehicles
  • Nitrous/NOS installed on all vehicles that allow this to be installed. NOS will be written next to the results for these vehicles.
  • Basically everything is done to the car to improve it's performance to the maximum the game allows.

  • HOWEVER: I have not applied Setups, all cars were tested with their "stock setups" after tuning parts applied.
First off let me say this, I am not starting an argument about whether stock is better than tuned, or whether we should use Comfort tyres on road cars, or whether NOS is relevant bla bla bla bla bla bla, everyone is entitled to their opinion, and is allowed to play their video game however they wish.

Personally I enjoy fully tuning the vehicles and I wanted to do lap times to get a comparison of all of GT6's vehicles.

So some stats about how I am gaming:
  • Controller: Logitech G27
  • Gears: Manual Gears; Using the paddle shifts.
  • ABS on all cars was set to: "1"
  • Aids: Everything else is set to "Off" and Traction Control on all cars is set to "0".
  • However; I use the Racing Line and the function that gives me a suggested gear for the upcoming corner.
The Track I have selected for this set of laps is the Tsukuba circuit in Japan. I chose it because it is a solid test of handling, it does not have extravagant straight line sections, but there is one long straight enough to show if a car has too short gearing or no power. This circuit has it's advantages and disadvantages of course. But it's the one I chose for this little operation :p

So here are the first 32 cars that have been tested so far.

  1. Spoon FIT Race Car '03; 437PP; 0:54.512 NOS
  2. Alfa Romeo Giulia Sprint Speciale '63; 443PP; 0:54.596 NOS
  3. Suzuki MR Wagon Sport '04; 430PP; 0:55.001 NOS
  4. Daihatsu SIRION CX 4WD (J) '98; 439PP; 0:55.136 NOS
  5. Daihatsu STORIA CX 4WD '98; 439PP; 0:55.368 NOS
  6. Honda S800 '66; 433PP; 0:55.773 NOS
  7. Daihatsu MOVE CX '95; 429PP; 0:56.778 NOS
  8. Daihatsu MOVE SR-XX 2WD '97; 426PP; 0:56.963 NOS
  9. Suzuki WAGON R RR '98; 428PP; 0:57.253 NOS
  10. Nissan SKYLINE Sport Coupe (BLRA-3) '62; 432PP; 0:57.387 NOS
  11. Suzuki ALTO LAPIN Turbo '02; 418PP; 0:57.463 NOS
  12. Daihatsu MOVE Custom RS Limited '02; 415PP; 0:57.619 NOS
  13. Daihatsu MOVE SR-XX 4WD '97; 418PP; 0:57.649 NOS
  14. Honda S600 '64; 380PP; 0:57.891 NOS
  15. Honda INSIGHT LS '09; 435PP; 0:59.153
  16. Volkswagen Sambabus Typ 2 (T1) '62; 418PP; 0:59.917 NOS
  17. Honda S500 '63; 375PP; 1:00.019 NOS
  18. Honda TODAY G '85; 397PP; 1:00.109 NOS
  19. Hudson Mario Andretti's 1948 Hudson; 411PP; 1:00.134 NOS
  20. Honda Z ACT '70; 394PP; 1:01.420 NOS
  21. Volkswagen Beetle 1100 Standard (Type-11) '49; 425PP; 1:01.705 NOS
  22. Toyota PRIUS G '09; 382PP; 1:04.254
  23. Toyota Aqua S '11; 372PP; 1:04.668
  24. Volkswagen Schwimmwagen Typ 166 '42; 425PP; 1:05.150 NOS
  25. Mazda Carol 360 Deluxe '62; 349PP; 1:05.919 NOS
  26. Toyota PRIUS G Touring Selection (J) '03; 353PP; 1:06.451
  27. Honda LIFE STEP VAN '72; 431PP; 1:07.099 NOS
  28. Toyota PRIUS G (J) '02; 368PP; 1:07.326
  29. Nissan Leaf G '11; 349PP; 1:07.802
  30. Citroen 2CV Type A '54; 373PP; 1:07.894 NOS
  31. Mitsubishi i-MiEV '09; 307PP; 1:12.998
  32. Gran Turismo Racing Kart Junior; 378PP; 1:18.943
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I do not suggest using NOS, unless you use it in the exact same place every time. I feel like NOS can make or break your lap times and can be very inconsistent. However, it is your project! 👍

Also, everything else does not seem like a bad idea.
 
Yeah, NOS is consistently applied at the same time on the lap on all cars.

It's somethin' I thought about before starting, I'm using it like the F1 boys used to use kers.
 
Maybe do some more exotic cars (probably costs a lot more and takes a bit longer to get credits)....

It's up to you, but these car performance/ lap time trackers are pretty cool..
 
Thanks @Swagger897 I most definitely will do some faster cars.

I have started off with the slower cars, especially the electric cars, because I wanted to get them out of the way effectively.

I've found some real gems though, one that stood out for great handling is the Daihatsu OFC-1. Really chuckable fun little car.

The main post will be updated when I've done some more cars. This was done really just as a point of interest, not to prove anything. I hope to have a big list and to make some comparisons.

All suggestions and comments welcome.
 
I think sports soft for road cars and racing medium or soft on race cars... Racing soft on >450pp cars...eh...
 
Surprising car of the day - Citroen Xsara VTR '03, handled really well, and got the 2nd fastest time to the Spoon CR-Z which is close to a race prepared car.

Shocker of the day - Mazda Autozam AZ-1 '92, very slow in a straight, poor traction and road holding, even with full aero it had basically zero grip, very twitchy.


@kjb Thanks very much :) stay tuned :P

@332i I appreciate your opinion, I shan't be doing that, as I want to run all cars on the same tyres for a fair comparison.
 
Ok. Whatever floats your boat. Just know that you're actually doing the opposite and clouding the results by using racing softs. A lot of the cars in that list are held back by all the grip, because they have they have no balls and can't be pushed to their full potential. Idk what do I know, though.

Edit - just went out and tested the Spoon Fit.

Sports softs, No NOS - 1:03.XXX
Racing softs No NOS - 59.XXX
Racing soft w/nos - 58.3xx @ stock 50% NOS shot.
Racing soft w/Now at 100 shot - 56.3xxx



You're up to something, man. I don't tout myself around and am modest as sin, but I highly doubt you are seconds faster with the same car and same wheel with all stock fully modified. It just doesn't make sense. Two seconds faster at Tsukuba and you need the racing line and upcoming gear selector display? Dude. No way. My IS350 GT300 does it in 50.XXX. My 320 touring car does it in 52. They have at least twice as much power. The Lexus has 611 and I have no issue with traction in the least. You must run train in seasonal events, if you are two seconds faster than me around 1.3 mile track in the same, underpowered car. To boot, my Lexus and BMW racers are setup to the point that they are sure shot winners online. ...Beyond up to par. The Lexus has 3x as much power and I am only 4 seconds ahead. The BMW has 2x as much power. It is only two seconds ahead of your 54.XXX. So, you're only two seconds slower in the FIT than my 400+ hp 320 touring car...and I am two seconds slower than you in the FIT. Like I said...doesn't make sense. Maybe we should test this online in the same lobby room. If my rear end gets handed to me on a silver platter, so be it. But, I would like to see this.

That was with no abs, because 1) I am faster without it and 2) that is also a more even comparison. You throw out a lot of variables when you turn abs1 on. A LOT.

Just think this needs more thought and refining to be at least somewhat, that's all.
 
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It is late here so I won't give a full reply, but I'm not "up to something" lol, I use 100% nos and 'cos of the short length of the track, I use it all the way around when on throttle.

the Spoon Fit, maximum Rear Aero, maximum NOS strength, everything installed for said car.

As for ABS 1, when I used 0, I lock up at every corner in every car. So I put it on 1, did on GT5 too. I like realism, but I also like being able to stop hehe.
 
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Something, I quickly feel the need to add, through my testing it seems as a rule of thumb a NOS lap is about 2.5 seconds quicker than a non-nos lap. On all my tests I drive the car once around without using nos, to figure out brake zones & gears and turn in points, then subsequent laps are flat out using nos everywhere. As I say on average the nos is about 2.5s advantage on every car.

Not massively relevant to the discussion, it's just something I wanted to log on record before I forget.
 
ipswich1992
It is late here so I won't give a full reply, but I'm not "up to something" lol, I use 100% nos and 'cos of the short length of the track, I use it all the way around when on throttle.

the Spoon Fit, maximum Rear Aero, maximum NOS strength, everything installed for said car.

As for ABS 1, when I used 0, I lock up at every corner in every car. So I put it on 1, did on GT5 too. I like realism, but I also like being able to stop hehe.
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I followed your OP and didn't touch a single setting. That includes things like aero. Thought we were buying the car and going straight to track after installing all mods, but ok. GL.
 
Did 10 more cars, worth noting - The Corsa(s) understeer with the NOS in, but other than that great cars, chuckable and fast.

Worst car of the day - all 3 Honda BEAT's, particularly the Version F'92, was all over the place, the other 2 were also crazy but a bit more manageable.
 
Odd that the Version Z would be a whole second faster than the Version F. What are the major differences between the two?
 
I'm not really sure, nowhere near the game right now so can't check the stats of the car.

Also I did wonder too, so I went back to the VersF92 afterwards, and tried a few more laps and I couldn't go any faster. So there's something different about it, don't know what lol
 

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