G27 vs Driving Force GT: A quick comparison

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I finally got tired of the fights amongst the kids for the use of the one wheel when playing split screen. The looser was always yours truly as I ended up doing the pedals for one whilst helping the other do the steering with the controller.

At first I told myself it would increase my eye hand coordination. And at first it bloody well did: Steering one car whilst doing the pedals for the other does take your coordination to the next level. Unfortunately it also takes your headaches to the next level and the recriminations from small children for "making them loose" to even higher levels.

So being the king of this particular Fairy Kingdom (I got girls you see) I edicted "A second wheel shall be procured so that each child may loose the race on their own!"

And so I got a Driving Force GT to complement the G27 we already had. At first the oldest princess rejected it on the grounds that it was not a matching pair but I managed to convince her that because it had more buttons (with actual words printed) on the actual wheel and only two pedals it was more suitable for up and coming Fairy princesses as opposed to the other "OLD" one that only a fuddy duddy old King would find endearing.

I took both wheels for a spin at the LaSarthe 2009 using the Minolta 88 race car. Here are my observations:

FORCE FEEDBACK: For some reason the car seemed a bit more loose with the Force GT, easier to understeer and oversteer. This makes sense if the G27 has stronger force feedback so I steer less with the same amount of effort.

EASE OF USE: The force GT is a treat to use. Everything on the wheel and clearly marked. I have had the G27 for more than 6 months and I still fumble around trying to find the right button for what I want to do. 5 minutes with the force GT and I was not fumbling at all.

I love the TC dial. It is the bomb. I've given up on changing TC settings on the fly with the G27. With the Force GT I was doing it mid turn and loving it.

The only thing I found "user unfriendly" were the paddle buttons. Far too hidden for my taste and you have to use your fingers in such a way that the palms of my hand were getting tired within 4 laps.

PEDALS: Well there is really no comparison. Plastic pedals vs Metal pedals with resistance. The brake pedal is the worst as you only need to touch it for it to activate. This means you have to drive in a completely different manner and cannot feather the brakes as well. Not to mention I kept getting flashbacks form GT4 and the Worn out pedals on the driving Force wheel I had back then. The metal pedals is why I got the G27 in the first place.

PACE: Both wheels are good for ~3:30 around LaSarthe on the Minolta. I moved the G27 to a different spot (to have both wheels on) so it was a bit weird at first but the Force GT's pedals feel complete alien and I kept braking too late or too hard. Still after 4 laps the times were within a couple of hundreds of each other.


BOTTOM LINE: Sitting next to each other I want to drive the Force GT more than the G27 but one touch of the pedals and I just move back to the G27.
 
BOTTOM LINE: Sitting next to each other I want to drive the Force GT more than the G27 but one touch of the pedals and I just move back to the G27.
There is even a bigger difference between the pedals for me since my G27 has the load cell mod. (Before that mod I used nixim brake mod for about a year.)
 
Great story and great comparison. I was contemplating a new wheel and previously owned a G25 and was worried the DFGT wouldnt match up as good. I have used the DFGT with GT5 at my fathers and since he got a G27 today, his DFGT is now mine so I guess it doesnt really matter much anymore, a free wheel is a free wheel :p
 
Can you use g27 pedals with dfgt wheel ?
Or is there any other aftermarket or something pedals to use with dfgt ?
 
Can you use g27 pedals with dfgt wheel ?
Or is there any other aftermarket or something pedals to use with dfgt ?


Didn't try on the account that the G27 has three pedals and the pins probably don't match. That and I have already tidied it up (cable managed) and can't be bothered to undo it all.
 
What i have noticed from extensive use of the G27, is that on the inside of my thumbs, get quite blistered, more so than the DFGT, after 4 hours straight of X2010 thrashing, my thumbs were gone. But on the G27, it took only 30 minutes, and they were starting to go bad. Probably because i grip the wheel to much, but still, a huge difference.
 
FORCE FEEDBACK: For some reason the car seemed a bit more loose with the Force GT, easier to understeer and oversteer. This makes sense if the G27 has stronger force feedback so I steer less with the same amount of effort.

What force feedback setting were you on. I find it best turned up to 10. 👍
 
10. There is only one force feedback setting I know of and it applies to all wheels so that would not affect the test

Ah right, I forgot that the FFB is a universal option (not just wheel specific). Just a thought anyway.
 
so is it worth updating to the g27 from the DFGT just for the pedals? i am happy with the DFGT but if the g27 will make me more happy, i will get it
 
What i have noticed from extensive use of the G27, is that on the inside of my thumbs, get quite blistered, more so than the DFGT, after 4 hours straight of X2010 thrashing, my thumbs were gone. But on the G27, it took only 30 minutes, and they were starting to go bad. Probably because i grip the wheel to much, but still, a huge difference.

Interesting. I have race the 9 hour endurance race with my G27 and hadn't come close of getting a blister. Sounds like you are gripping the wheel too much. Be warn this may lead to carpal tunnel if you over-grip on a regular bases.
so is it worth updating to the g27 from the DFGT just for the pedals? i am happy with the DFGT but if the g27 will make me more happy, i will get it
This depends how much you love sim racing. If you are happy and satisfied with DFGT then I would stay with it especially just for one game like Gt5.
 
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I have both wheels and the g27 it's miles better than the dfgt. At first you won't be pleased about the pressure that it takes to press the pedals on the g27. But you will become used to it and you will love them...
 
It doesn't.

The stupid thing is the game should be make this feature available.
Its so easy to program for as well.

Just multiply the steering ratio and make a wall of strong force feedback when you hit the limit of rotation.

But it should not let you adjust it on production cars, just match real world cars.
 
As someone who owns a G25, I'd have to try out the G27 to see if it's worth the extra cash. But comparing the G25 and DFGT, I have to say that they feel very similar. The G27 may be the stuff, but the DFGT is such a remarkable bargain that I'd think it would work superbly for most people who don't need a clutch and H-shifter.
 
I have a custom cockpit, nothing special, but I had the same problem with the DFGT pedals being too sensitive with no feel or resistance to them. Then I hooked up some bungee cords to the pedals and hooked them under my seat and it's made a world of difference. Feels a little weird at first but you get used to it and if you take them off later, you find it impossible to believe you ever drove without them.
 
Anyone know if the DFGT allows you to switch between 900 Degree and 200 degree like the DFP does?

It doesn't.

The stupid thing is the game should be make this feature available.
Its so easy to program for as well.

Just multiply the steering ratio and make a wall of strong force feedback when you hit the limit of rotation.

But it should not let you adjust it on production cars, just match real world cars.

Does the G25 or G27 allow switching between the two? Also how does it handle a game like Dirt 2, which forces my wheel into 200 degree mode and doesn't support 900?

Its coming time to replace my Driving Force Pro, but I find the FGT, Ferrari F1, and X2010/2011 unplayable at 900 degrees.
 
I have been using a DFGT wheel and pedals for ages , I just upgraded to a G27 and I am slightly disappointed. The gear shifter and pedals on G27 are the bomb , but In my opinion the DFGT wheel is a much better wheel. FFB is way more responsive on the DFGT wheel and the button layout is magic. I am still undecided on what wheel to use but I do have a great fix for your DFGT brake pedals. A SQUASH BALL !!!! yes.... a squash ball will fit perfectly under the plastic brake arm of the DFGT, provides some great resistance and feel :) it wont fit center under the brake arm , just push it over to the side a bit , where it will happily bed in for ever :)
 
@ OP dont know if anyone has mentioned to help with DFGT Pedals... try taking a bungee cord or two, take the cord hook it around the middle of the base, wrap it around the back of the pedals and hook to the other side.

Its bootleg but it does add some resistance to the pedals:cheers:

Edit: *face palm* should have read some reply's.
 
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It has to be a personnal preference thing, i run a league and we have guys running the T500RS, fanatec and logitech G25/27/DFGT, so pretty much all the usuall suspects and wheel comparison is a reasonably typical subject.

The really odd thing is i went from a DFGT to a G27 ( + brake mod ) and instantly felt the 27 was a higher quality product ( no contest in pedal department ), 3 or 4 of my friends have done the same and agreed but we have one guy who went from a pad to a G27, as soon as he had got used to the wheel it developed a problem so he sent it back but couldnt face the pad again so bought a DFGT for the time being and now has a G27 in the box next to him as he honestly prefers the DFGT !!
 
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I upgraded to the G27 from the DFGT. At first I hated it, but now I love it. The two biggest changes are the button layout (took me a long time to find a button setup I was happy with) and the pedals. The pedals are miles better, the FFB is smoother, everything feels more precise, the only thing it needs is a sequential shifter option. I would recommend upgrading if you want to enhance the experience with the H-pattern and clutch.

However, if you are just driving to enjoy the game and get a good experience stick with the DFGT. It's a fantastic wheel. The button layout is perfect (I still miss it). All I did was stick a chunk of memory foam underneath the brake pedal for mine. Still allowed for 100% brake pressure but made the pedal stiffer as the travel ran out. Still not as good as the G27 pedals, but better.
 
However, if you are just driving to enjoy the game and get a good experience stick with the DFGT. It's a fantastic wheel. The button layout is perfect (I still miss it).

I also miss the DFGT button layout, every button placement makes sense on the DFGT, its the only place where the DFGT is better than the G27.
 
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