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Bit of a random one this, but has anyone else on here ever used dutchflowershop.co.uk to order anything? I ordered some flowers off the site yesterday and paid an extra £10 on top of the standard cost to have them delivered today, the day before her birthday.

I've just checked my order status and it says 'Order has been processed and is waiting to be dispatched'....

Needless to say I'm not happy at all, just wondered if anyone else had dealt with them at all? I'm going to be contacting them to cancel the order and get a full refund, my gift for my friend's birthday has been totally ****ing ruined. 🤬:mad:
 
I got one.

You know the typical sound a car makes when driving in reverse? I've always wondered where the sound's coming from, the transmission?
 
Bit of a random one this, but has anyone else on here ever used dutchflowershop.co.uk to order anything? I ordered some flowers off the site yesterday and paid an extra £10 on top of the standard cost to have them delivered today, the day before her birthday.

Not to play devil's advocate here, but most internet stores usually don't receive orders between friday and sunday... so if you order on a friday it'll most likely be checked on the following monday.

I got one.

You know the typical sound a car makes when driving in reverse? I've always wondered where the sound's coming from, the transmission?

Yeah... at least I think so. Reverse gear is the lowest gear (strongest, even more than 1st gear). The sound it makes is the stretching of the gearbox, so to speak. Incidentally, if you ever have to push or tow something and you want to use the car's full strength, reverse should be the gear of choice... unless you're going to do so over a long distance...
 
Not to play devil's advocate here, but most internet stores usually don't receive orders between friday and sunday... so if you order on a friday it'll most likely be checked on the following monday.

That's what I thought, but they had a calendar where you could pick your delivery date and the 6th was available, it then charged me an extra £10 for Saturday delivery. There was nothing on the site to say that last minute orders could not be placed, and since it had the 6th as an option I picked it.

When you click on 'Delivery Information' it says 'Coming Soon', so I've no idea how I'm supposed to check the exact details beforehand! It doesn't seem a very professional way to run a business to me, I've already asked for my money back. If it turns out to be a dodgy site then I've got the payment insured on my credit card so I'll claim it back off that.

EDIT: Also just found this on the site;
4.1. DFS and their courier for their bouquets guarantee next day delivery in respect of :-

(i) Orders received by DFS before 3pm
(ii) Areas within mainland Britain with the exception of the more remote locations where delivery can take up to 48 hours.
(iii) Deliveries will only be despatched from Monday to Friday

I placed the order on Friday at 1.15PM to arrive in Swindon the next day. It falls within all of their terms and conditions!
 
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I got one.

You know the typical sound a car makes when driving in reverse? I've always wondered where the sound's coming from, the transmission?
Are you referring to that sound that makes the car sound like a little, electric-motor? I've also wondered that myself, if so.

And yes, I do know Tom answered the question.:)
 
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And yes, I do know Tom answered the question.:)


Moglet answered through howstuffworks

Manual transmissions use mostly helical gears, but reverse is a special situation that requires a different type of gear - a spur gear.

The gears that make up the forward gear ratios are all helical gears. The teeth on helical gears are cut at an angle to the face of the gear. When two teeth on a helical gear system engage, the contact starts at one end of the tooth and gradually spreads as the gears rotate, until the two teeth are in full engagement. This gradual engagement makes helical gears operate much more smoothly and quietly than spur gears. Also, because of the angle of the gear teeth, more teeth are in engagement at any one time. This spreads the load out more and reduces stresses.

The only problem with helical gears is that it is hard to slide them in and out of engagement with each other. On a manual transmission the forward gears stay engaged with each other at all times, and collars that are controlled by the shift stick lock different gears to the output shaft (see How Manual Transmissions Work for details). The reverse gear on your manual transmission uses an idler gear (the large spur gear visible at the right side of the picture below), which has to slide into mesh with two other spur gears at the same time in order to reverse the direction of rotation.


Most of the gears in a manual transmission have helical teeth. The three gears that make up reverse have straight teeth. The large spur gear on the right slides up to put the car in reverse.

Spur gears, which have straight teeth, slide into engagement much more easily than helical gears, so the three gears used for reverse are spur gears.

Each time a gear tooth engages on a spur gear, the teeth collide instead of gently sliding into contact as they do on helical gears. This impact makes a lot of noise and also increases the stresses on the gear teeth. When you hear a loud, whirring noise from your car in reverse, what you are hearing is the sound of the spur gear teeth clacking against one another!
 
Yeah, though I read Moglet's link after posting my answer.

Still, I understand your frustration regarding the flowers deal. Demand your money back plus mental anguish!
 
Yeah, though I read Moglet's link after posting my answer.

Still, I understand your frustration regarding the flowers deal. Demand your money back plus mental anguish!

Thing is, it probably sounds like a really fickle thing to get angry about but I haven't seen her for a while and losing my job meant I couldn't get down there to see her on her birthday. The flowers were the next best thing and even they went wrong. :banghead:
 
Also, along with Road_dogg's post, many if not all race cars use straight-cut "spur" gears in the transmissions, thus the whining sound when you have a race trans on Gran Turismo.
 
I disagree with the statement that it puts "extra stress" on the gear's teeth. Straightcut gears are far and away stronger than helicals, which why they're used in racing boxes. Helicals are quieter which is why they're used in street cars.
 
What definition do they record Hollywood movies in? Is it higher than 1080p? Does Japan have a higher definition than the current standard.
 
I disagree with the statement that it puts "extra stress" on the gear's teeth. Straightcut gears are far and away stronger than helicals, which why they're used in racing boxes. Helicals are quieter which is why they're used in street cars.

My gut says there's something wrong with claiming that "more teeth in contact equals less stress". Wouldn't the slight angle also mean slightly more wear the outer sections of the teeth, when they're almost disengaged?
 
No, because the next tooth is well engaged, and the next after may have started by that time. That last piece of the tooth disengaging is not carrying much load.

One thing that helical gears do, though, is put loads along the shaft. The gear wants to travel down the shaft as well as rotate around it.
 
Got an email from the flower people. They've had massive computer issues over the weekend apparently, and the flowers are now being sent for free.

WOO!
 
What definition do they record Hollywood movies in? Is it higher than 1080p? Does Japan have a higher definition than the current standard.

Doubt it, though their own 1080p TVs are probably cheaper and we all know how much the Japanese love their technology.
 
What definition do they record Hollywood movies in? Is it higher than 1080p? Does Japan have a higher definition than the current standard.

Most of it is still filmed on actual film so definition isn't really an issue. If it can still be pin-sharp on a massive screen then it's bound to be clearer than a 1080 screen.
 
What definition do they record Hollywood movies in? Is it higher than 1080p?
There isn't a simple yes or no answer. Only digital cameras have "resolution", but even digitally, many directors are using what is commonly known as "4k" digital cameras. 4K is a lose reference to the number of vertical lines of resolution, where as 1080p refers to the number of horizontal lines of resolution. Thus a typical 4K camera or projector would have a resolution of at least 3840x2160 which is four times greater than 1920x1080.

The most accurate way to compare resolutions of digital cameras though is in terms of pixels. A 1920x1080 camera has 2 MP (mega pixels), however the most popular 4K camera used to make many motion pictures has over 12 MP (5760x2160). It's called the Genesis and was designed by Panavision. Several well known films were shot using Genesis cameras, like Superman Returns, Apocalypto, and was most recently used to shoot Frank Miller's soon to be released film, The Spirit.

The Genesis is but one of several "4K" cameras being used. One could argue the most popular one right now due to it's superb picture quality and incredibly cheap price is Red Digital's "Red One". It has over 9 MP (4096x2304).

That being said, for every film shot in 4K digital, there are ten being shot in 1080p digital.... and far more though are still shot on traditional 35mm film cameras.


Now this is where it get's particularly complicated. Film, unlike digital formats, has no inherent resolution. What it does have is detail, and it is by which we can compare film to digital formats. While not precise, as so many factors play a role into how much detail can be captured on both film and digital formats, in general and under perfect conditions, it is assumed that 35mm film can capture as much detail as a 12-15 MP camera can. Taking it to extremes, 65/70mm film in equally ideal conditions can capture nearly twice as much detail.

The problem is, I have seen thousands of films over the years and I have not once seen an instance where a film was captured in perfect conditions. There are so many different ways for a film to lose detail, especially when shot on film stock. The biggest factor is lighting. Nothing kills detail faster than a poorly lit shot. Perhaps the next biggest factor is the quality of the camera, especially the lenses being used. A low quality lens can drop the amount of detail that can be captured by as much as 50%. :eek:

To put it in a more real world perspective, if you took a dozen 8-10MP still cameras and compared shots of the exact same image under the exact same conditions, you wont likely see a dozen identical photographs. The biggest culprit is the difference in quality of the lenses, but there are many other factors as well, so simply having a camera that has a high resolution in no way guarantees you'll get great looking shots... especially compared to high quality professional motion cameras, some of which can cost as much as $100,000.

Then you have to add in the ability of the cinematographer, the editing equipment, the way the negatives are handled and stored, the way the prints are made, how the prints are handled... the list goes on and on and on.

This is why when you go to the theater, while one film you watch may look visually amazing, another can look horrible.

Film is one of the most delicate mediums we have.

That being said, there are films that are fifty years old that even today look far better than most films being shot today.

Now digital photography has certainly helped in some regards and hurt in others, but just like film, you can find movies shot on digital cameras that look amazing, and others that look terrible.


So as you can see, there isn't a simple answer, although it is certainly very safe to say that under the right conditions, and when properly used, even fifty year old film cameras can capture far more detail than what a 1080p display could reproduce... but those are the exceptions, not the rule.



BTW: In case you may not pick up on it, my GTP ID is a reference to my allegiance to both modern and traditional forms of film... Nitrate being a reference to cellulose nitrate, one of the first forms of film stock. As it is in many aspects of my life, I am both a traditionalist and a modernist. :D



Does Japan have a higher definition than the current standard.
If you mean does Japan use a broadcast standard with a greater resolution than the rest of the world, then the answer is no.

However, they are currently leading the way in the development of much higher resolution digital formats. NHK has been developing what was once called UHDV (Ultra High Definition Video), but has since been come to be known as SHV (Super Hi-Vision). It has over 33 MP (7680x4320), runs at 60 frames per second, supports up to 22.2 channels of sound, and runs on the 21 GHz frequency band... yes it's some serious $%& to behold! :crazy:

They have been developing it for many years now and even demonstrating it over the last five years. They hope to make it an international standard by 2015, but most industry analysts agree that that is extremely unlikely.

The fact remains that while the majority of films look better in 1080p than even in 720p (less than 1MP), many do not due to the poor quality of the original source, and this is even more true for broadcast TV programming. Considering the still growing popularity of 1080p (2MP), and the lack of content that would benefit from a "4K" (8MP) display let alone a massive 33MP display makes this endeavor seem rather pointless, except for us fellow AV gear heads who love this sort of thing. :)


EDIT: Long post, so I highlighted key points to make it easier to browse through. :)
 
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Very cool info. Thanks, D-N! 👍
 
Thank you for getting back into the mix DN. We all appreciate what you bring to the table with awesome posts like that.
 
As some of you have young kids, I have question for you.

What kind of toy/gift donation do you find acceptable for kids 1-7 years old? I'm already buying a basketball for the oldest kids, but I'm stumped for the younger children. I was thinking something along the lines of Star War's perhaps?

What are your kids into, fellows?
 
Star Wars!? They won't know what that is!

Go into a toy store, ask 1 of the assisstant's what TV series is selling well at the moment and buy a figure from that collection (This side of the pond, Ben10 is pretty big).
 
Star Wars!? They won't know what that is!
I beg to differ! My kids (4 and 3 years old) have seen Episode 1 and 4-6, have entirely too many toys (with more on the way *shhh, don't tell them* :p) and clothes. You'd be surprised what young kids know about.
 
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Then Iron Man. Any kid over 5 years old must know about Iron Man. Or at least Batman by now.
All of the above. And The Hulk, Superman, Spiderman...

You get the picture.
 
TB
I beg to differ! My kids (4 and 3 years old) have seen Episode 1 and 4-6, have entirely too many toys (with more on the way *shhh, don't tell them* :p) and clothes. You'd be surprised what young kids know about.
I work the Toy Section in Tesco and have an 11 yr old little bro. But the British scene is a little less comic orientated than America seems. Also, I tend to see late teens, dads with kids buying Star Wars stuff more than mums and kids ;)

I know too much about everything from Power Rangers and Masked Rider, onto Pokemon and Yu-Gi-Oh (not so much) and onwards to BeyBlades and Ben 10.

Iron Man is a good call.
 
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