I just drifted the 510 and although some things I did like, the overall car could've felt better.
The car had big understeer issues probably due to the 60-40 Weight distribution. In my attempt to fix it I raised the front end and changed the balance a bit. Worked better but the Roll bars and dampers needs to be adjusted to get more angle.
The rear end was stable until the top of 4th gear. The slow Accel on the LSD made it and issue when the torque got to high. Lower rear toe could help as well as a quicker acceleration.
The car isn't suited for more aggressive initiations. 80-90degree entries were difficult and I constantly stalled out because the car slows too much while it's sideways. The car seems to be more suited for a DS3 drifter. The -15 -15 ride height made it sort of obvious. Wheel drifters know that higher front end as well as more rear end weight keeps a more controlled drift.
I did however like the gearing. It was easy to get power from the gear.
In conclusion the tune is good for a DS3 based drifter but wheel users who use different styles might find some difficulty getting the car to behave like a regular drifter. The car felt stock.
I appreciate the feedback, but I'd like to parse out what of your criticism is due to personal preference and what is down to performance deficit. As it's been said a few times in this thread, individual tunes are given comparative tuning, so 'feel' of the car is transferred from another car that the driver is familiar with. Basically, things that would change if this car was tailored
for your driving style I'll mention. Other concerns are legitimate.
Things that would be changed if this was tuned for you:
1. Ride height ratio (more on that later)
2. LSD Settings
3. Roll Bar F/R Ratio
4. All dampener relative vales (to instantaneous wheel weight)
In other words, seeing as this was a general test car I didn't do any of the comparative tuning (I believe I stated that in the original post) that would address nearly all of the issues you expressed. I'd welcome you to put a full tune application in for a car and see how comparative tuning fixes your complaints.
However, on the note of ride height, I want to express that the slight gain in rear traction during forward movement out of a turn (which is caused by raising the rear, like you said, it means that when the car starts to face more forward G forces and not sideways ones, the CoM is a little closer to the rear, and I really mean a LITTLE closer) actually causes a loss of optimal cornering since it forces the front and rear to roll at different rates to reach the same level roll. Basically, it is not a rule that all drifters follow, and while raising the front can 'fix' some problems, it isn't always a universal rule.
But your response is good, since it points out exactly what I needed to know (and why I chose the 510, a very very poor drift car, over, say, a Z33). The 510 is going to perform, even at its peak, below normal drift car standards. So that means it is easily manageable for most drifters. As a test car, that tells me that if I tune it for the maximum possible performance out of the platform, if the critiques that come back are 'feel' based, then I have done the right job. If the critiques are based on universal improvements, then I did something wrong. I believe both Uriehusky and you confirmed this.
Though I think you should try drifting the car with its stock 90 HP. It actually has a track around 50 inches. By comparison a 2009 Miata has a track of 59 inches, and the C6 Corvette Z06 has 63 inches. So I hope you weren't expecting race-car performance, but you did get me the results I needed. Thank you.
Next Week's Test Car: "Black Dog"
The next Test Car will arrive next week, and will be a demonstration of a high-performance tune. You will be treated to a Skyline GT-R, with a drastically reduced weight and FR conversion. This, like the previous test car, will be all-Nissan. But what will surprise you is not the chassis, but the monster of an engine it will pack.
In addition, the Naturally Aspirated SR20DE has been made available as a crate motor from Ghost Tuning, upon request. More detail on the OP.
) as people here, and other places, decide "oh this is better suited here because it's specific even though it's a "tuning" garage and would kind of make more sense to put said "tuning" garage in the "Tuning Forum". At least that's how I feel about it.
