Gollum???

[koolsax]

Is it just me or does Gollum bring back horrible memories of Jar Jar Binks?

 

[duo17]

WARNING: This post contains information from the film, so don't read it if you haven't seen it.

I think he does, but I din't think it was meant to be funny, like Jar Jar was. People started laughing when Golum was having an "internal conflict" but I thought it was showing how he's split between Frodo and the Ring. Its kinda like laughing at someone who has a mental disorder. I thought that laughing at it was wrong. If he was meant to be another Jar Jar, they did a horrible job at it. Actually, I think that Jar Jar was funnier than Golum. But that's just my opinion.

OA

 

[Tom M]

Wow, 2 people that absolutely can't grasp a concept.
Gollum was a fantastically done character unlike Jar Jar. And there are certain moments where his self dialogue was supposed to be humorous. There were also other areas where it wasn't.
Movies are designed for entertainment, and sometimes humor can be derived from unusual circumstances. Case in point the movie Pulp Fiction. What's so funny about a man being captured and torured, then giving his watch to another man to hide inside his ass because he knows he's going to be killed and wants his son to have his birthright.
I'll tell you what. That scene was hilarious.

 

[koolsax]

I think that the only difference between the two is that Gollum is actually funny.

 

[Matrixhasu77]

Originally posted by Tom M
Wow, 2 people that absolutely can't grasp a concept.
Gollum was a fantastically done character unlike Jar Jar. And there are certain moments where his self dialogue was supposed to be humorous. There were also other areas where it wasn't.
Movies are designed for entertainment, and sometimes humor can be derived from unusual circumstances. Case in point the movie Pulp Fiction. What's so funny about a man being captured and torured, then giving his watch to another man to hide inside his ass because he knows he's going to be killed and wants his son to have his birthright.
I'll tell you what. That scene was hilarious.

I agree.

 

[TAFJonathan]

Gollum may indeed deserve the title of "Best Actor", if a voice actor can get that. He was amazing!

 

[koolsax]

Yea, that'd be his for sure.

 

[duo17]

Originally posted by Tom M
Wow, 2 people that absolutely can't grasp a concept.
Gollum was a fantastically done character unlike Jar Jar. And there are certain moments where his self dialogue was supposed to be humorous. There were also other areas where it wasn't.
Movies are designed for entertainment, and sometimes humor can be derived from unusual circumstances. Case in point the movie Pulp Fiction. What's so funny about a man being captured and torured, then giving his watch to another man to hide inside his ass because he knows he's going to be killed and wants his son to have his birthright.
I'll tell you what. That scene was hilarious.

I get your point, but you didn't have to be an ass about it.

OA

 

[Der Alta]

Let's review gollum for a moment. This "actor"was this first of it's kind. There was indeed a real person playing this character, and not just a voice. In watching a few of the documentaries on it, an actor dresed in a blue suit was used when Gollum interacted with the other characters. The CGI was then inserted into the movie, with action mimicing the blue suit person. This allowed the real actors to portray an image which did seem like Gollum was real.

I'll vote as well that he may have a good chance at a nomination.

Pulp fiction had some very interesting and off beat humor. The scene with Travolta, Jackson, and Tarantino coupled with the scene of how they ended up in the situation was a perfect example.

Nice subtle shot there Duo17.

AO

 

[duo17]

Originally posted by Der Alta
Let's review gollum for a moment. This "actor"was this first of it's kind. There was indeed a real person playing this character, and not just a voice. In watching a few of the documentaries on it, an actor dresed in a blue suit was used when Gollum interacted with the other characters. The CGI was then inserted into the movie, with action mimicing the blue suit person. This allowed the real actors to portray an image which did seem like Gollum was real...



AO

If I remember correctly, they did the same with Jar Jar.

OA

 

[AltF8]

I thought the performance was excellent, but the voice was too hard to understand much of the time.

 

[duo17]

I have a harder time understanding Ozzy. But that's probably just me.

OA

 

[koolsax]

As in Osbourne?

 

[Tom M]

Originally posted by duo17
I get your point, but you didn't have to be an ass about it.

OA

Yes I did, as I like to drive the point home to people who can't seem to grasp things.

 

[duo17]

Well, you got the wrong guy. This is because of the Rumple Club isn't it. Just by seeing that smilie, you think that I'm a stupid ass who can't post more than six words of intelligence. You being a jerk about it doesn't help things either. I would see why you would do that if I was someone like Meme who wouldn't get addition if their life depended on it. I doubt that you've even taken the time to read my other posts in other forums before you made the generalization that I "can't seem to grasp things."

OA

 

[milefile]

Originally posted by koolsax
Is it just me or does Gollum bring back horrible memories of Jar Jar Binks?

It's just you. Jar Jar Binks was supremely annoying and contributed nothing to the story. Gollum is essential to the story, is a tormented character who illustrates something about the psyche. Apples and oranges in my opinion.

 

[risingson77]

What MileFile said. I never once thought of Jar Jar Binks. I also had no trouble understanding.

Tom, this is for you:

 

[Tom M]

Originally posted by risingson77
What MileFile said. I never once thought of Jar Jar Binks. I also had no trouble understanding.

Tom, this is for you:

Mmmm Tastes like Chicken. Didn't work though.

 

[risingson77]

OK, just don't go turning into an e-thug on us, mmmkay?

One more thing I have noticed (watching Fellowship of the Ring) - the ring draws out the dark side of all who come into contact with it. Like when Bilbo catches a glimpse of the ring when Frodo is putting on the Mythril armor. Or when Frodo offers Galadria the ring. Gollum is just an extreme example of what happens from prolonged exposure to its power. It has warped him so badly as to have wholly subjugated his true "good" nature. His "good" aspect (Smiegel) begind to reassert itself in TTT. He just plays the conflict out in conversation with himself, rather than an inner dialogue.

 

[Matrixhasu77]

I agree with you there Risingson77, however, Jackson did leave a neccessary part out of TTT about Gollum. I don't want to ruin it for those who have not read the book, but lets just say the ring's power over Gollum wins out. Thats the irony in Gollum. He is a character who does things Frodo or Sam did not quite expect of him. Of course, he (Jackson) probably has moved this event to the beginning to Return of the King like he did with moving the death of Boromir to the end of Fellowship instead of the beginning of TTT. The only reason I won't go into specifics is because I don't want to ruin the story for others who have not read the book or seen the movie yet.

 

[risingson77]

I think the end of TTT hinted at that.

 

[koolsax]

Yea, it did.

**SPOILERS**
There's a scene at the very end where he has another conversation with himself about how he'll make Frodo and Sam pay for tricking him.
**SPOILERS**

 

[Gil]

I think Gollum was a truly tortured soul, based on the ring's effect on Mr. Frodo. Gollum was exposed to the ring for far longer. He comes off as one that "flew over the cuckoo's nest". Not, as has been suggested, as a distant relative of Jar Jar Binks.