Got it. Why most PREMIUMs are regular cars

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I was looking for a pricey car to add to my collection today. I realized that most of the premium cars are just plain old cars...big deal. Then it came to me. They used 2 sources for the cars, the employee parking lot, and whatever diecast cars were around the office. It makes perfect sense to me now. Why rent a car for a few days to model it when you can just ask to borrow "Bob from accounting"s M3 keys?
 
I think they drew names from a hat for most of them, and 200 is too round a number for all the completed premiums, I'm betting theres more saved for DLC.
 
I personally think we gave them so much grief to rush the game out that's all they could afford to put. Damn us!
 
I like to read the descriptions on the cars I buy on occasion, especially the ones I like or are eye catching. Seems to me they select the "best" car from the series of cars they have. The Cappacino for example is a rare gem for its category in that it is powered pretty well compared to most of its own competition (k cars) and is even FR when everything else is majority FF or more rarely 4WD. While I might be wrong in quite a few situations, it seems that for the ones that I cared enough to read the most advanced cars in the series of that era or line of cars will be premium. The RX7 Spirit is mentioned in one of the descriptions paragraphs iirc, and while comparing stats, it makes sense that if I want an RX7 that looks like a bathurst, but looks nearly identical to the superior Spirit, I would want the Spirit instead. Same as the Nissan GTRs, the evos, and I am sure many many others. There is some reasoning to it, and I have been thinking hard about it, and I think they did a decent job on deciding what should and shouldnt be premium. (Of course I dont think the Prius deserves the treatment over cars that should have been remade premium in the first place. I dont see hybrid races happening...)
 
The Honda Dualnote and Acura DN-X should have been premium because they're actually some pretty quick hybrids.
 
Problem Is if there where cleaver we would have more premiums if they had compied and modified more cars. Like some of the r34 and the r8 lms why not just compy the normal r8 then modify it. These loads of cars like these like the rx8 lms car (standard) why didn't they just copy the rx8 premium and modify it.
 
Problem Is if there where cleaver we would have more premiums if they had compied and modified more cars. Like some of the r34 and the r8 lms why not just compy the normal r8 then modify it. These loads of cars like these like the rx8 lms car (standard) why didn't they just copy the rx8 premium and modify it.

Because then people would complain about duplicates and say they should have spent the time making unique cars instead. :yuck: People are stupid.
 
So the average PD employee drives a Mazda 787b stealth? Or a 908 HDi FAP? Or a Ferrari f2010? Yeah, I could go on forever.
 
Problem Is if there where cleaver we would have more premiums if they had compied and modified more cars. Like some of the r34 and the r8 lms why not just compy the normal r8 then modify it. These loads of cars like these like the rx8 lms car (standard) why didn't they just copy the rx8 premium and modify it.

Those cars may have the same name as the road going models, maybe even some of the body panels are the same shape, but thats about it. To have them in premium guise they would still need the actual cars to model the interior and aero kits and engine bay etc etc..

What I don't understand though is that if they have the license to include the cars, surely there are CAD models available they could have used.
 
I think Mercedes, Nissan, Honda, Mazda and Toyota gave them some millions, just to make alot everyday cars premium. Don`t forget, the majority of GT5 owners are young people who will certainly buy a new car one day (maybe even their first one). Furthermore, all outdated cars are standards in GT5, that means they look bad and have no cockpit view (and sound very strange too).
This is probably one of the best ways to sell new cars to young people.

Those cars may have the same name as the road going models, maybe even some of the body panels are the same shape, but thats about it. To have them in premium guise they would still need the actual cars to model the interior and aero kits and engine bay etc etc..

What I don't understand though is that if they have the license to include the cars, surely there are CAD models available they could have used.

They already copy-pasted the R8 V10.
 
I was looking for a pricey car to add to my collection today. I realized that most of the premium cars are just plain old cars...big deal.
What did you expect them to be? Bananas? Of course they are cars! :dunce:
They used 2 sources for the cars, the employee parking lot, and whatever diecast cars were around the office.
Yeah, because lots of employees would have a Citroën GT concept car they drive to work :rolleyes:

What is your point? The premium cars span all types of car from a lowly Fiat up to multi-million dollar supercars. If your revelation is that a premium car is also a car, then, yes that is an amazing insight. Well done :)
 
I remember the very first thing that attracted me to GT all those years ago... It was the Honda Civic SiR II.. It was the fact that you could race ordinary cars and modify them. THAT was the allure of Gran Turismo and still is. Funny how alot of people forget that.
 
Yea except now your car is often overpowered or simply can't win the event. As there are no bhp limit events in a spec and you race either 200bhp victims or after that its 450hp plus opponents there's typically not much scope to take a low power car and gradually tune it for bigger events.

Like Mr cup why not have 2 one for uptown 300 and then 500? Then it gives you a chance to use that mr2 near stock and then tuned s opposed to not at all or have to use a fairly extreme tune on it?
 
I just think of the Standard cars as a "bonus", extra, padding, side dish, fixin', or whatever. Some racing games won't even reach 200 "Premium" cars. DLCs are coming and of course, more Premium cars. They're like the extras or deleted scenes in DVDs, most are low res. :D
 
I think they drew names from a hat for most of them, and 200 is too round a number for all the completed premiums, I'm betting theres more saved for DLC.

200 is too round a number because... *drumroll* it's a rounded number! The real figure is 221 if I counted them right. Might be off with one or two.
 
Im really annoyed that many epic and popular sport cars are standard- The Supra RZ, Camaro SS 00, Mustang Cobra 00, Bmw M3 E46, etc, etc, etc. The standard cars are die cast models by the way. The problem with saying the standard cars are bonus is bull, we all know that the premium car list is odd, because the lack of epic sports cars.
 
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Those cars may have the same name as the road going models, maybe even some of the body panels are the same shape, but thats about it. To have them in premium guise they would still need the actual cars to model the interior and aero kits and engine bay etc etc..

What I don't understand though is that if they have the license to include the cars, surely there are CAD models available they could have used.

I understand that but It is a lot quicker than making a whole new premium and If PD are sensible we will see these cars made premium very soon.
 
I remember the very first thing that attracted me to GT all those years ago... It was the Honda Civic SiR II.. It was the fact that you could race ordinary cars and modify them. THAT was the allure of Gran Turismo and still is. Funny how alot of people forget that.

That was great 10 years ago, but now GT has competition and having a "regular car" is no longer a selling point.
 
Roof and doors are pretty much the only thing the same on these cars. They would still have 99% of the details on the car left to capture and tweak up to their premium standards.

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I think they drew names from a hat for most of them, and 200 is too round a number for all the completed premiums, I'm betting theres more saved for DLC.

He announced around a week or 2 ago he's gonna change some standards to premiums in the future, so DLC should be coming with premiums. :)
 
I honestly feel what happened was, everyone who works there wanted their own personal car to be a premium, so that's why most of the premiums cars are what they are. I actually thought this the other day, cos if I made the game I would want my own personal car to be a premium.
 
I am sure it was like everything else in this edition of Gran Turismo, not much thought put into it at all so people try to come up with rationalizations or patterns or anything for an explanation.

The problem is that there probably is no explanation. You could scratch your head all day long, or pull your hair out thinking about why Kaz did this or that. No one knows, not even Kaz, because he was at a press conference or hobknobbing with celebrity race car drivers or racing himself when those "decisions" were made. The last part I made up.. it's as good an explanation as any I've heard though, LOL.
 
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