Gran Turismo 5 Customization?

[twisteddeeds]

I actually think this rules out the livery editor, since why would polyphony expect people to pay over the odds for unique "chromeline" cars if the livery editor allowed the user to make their own, and their own stealth cars.

I think visual modification will start and stop at crappy wings and maybe a little front diffuser or bumper canards

Maybe chrome paint isn't available in the editor?

 

[Fredde_swe]

I actually think this rules out the livery editor, since why would polyphony expect people to pay over the odds for unique "chromeline" cars if the livery editor allowed the user to make their own, and their own stealth cars.

I think visual modification will start and stop at crappy wings and maybe a little front diffuser or bumper canards

Forza 3 CE had cars with exclusive liverys even though there was a livery editor included in the game

 

[SlipZtrEm]

I actually think this rules out the livery editor, since why would polyphony expect people to pay over the odds for unique "chromeline" cars if the livery editor allowed the user to make their own, and their own stealth cars.

I think visual modification will start and stop at crappy wings and maybe a little front diffuser or bumper canards

Didn't Forza have very similar pre-order cars though? It doesn't rule out a livery editor at all.

I imagine these will count as "new" cars, separate from the normal ones they're based on. Like GT PSP (the all-black Veyron is considered separate from the normal one, etc etc), or GT3's uniquely-coloured cars (the Red STI).

 

[SrRd RacinG]

PD loves that sticker!

Confirmation of a livery editor feels very imminent. This will be good.

 

[VXR]

Why are people expecting these to be proof of a livery editor? There's every chance they'll be like the CE cars from an NFS game; simply a new skin and in this case, a new rear wing.

 

[SrRd RacinG]

Why are people expecting these to be proof of a livery editor? There's every chance they'll be like the CE cars from an NFS game; simply a new skin and in this case, a new rear wing.

You can point me out as one of those who think it's imminent. I can take the heat

Do you honestly NOT expect there to be a livery editor?

 

[maxpontiac]

You can point me out as one of those who think it's imminent. I can take the heat

Do you honestly NOT expect there to be a livery editor?

Look at his name. That should answer the question..

 

[motortrend]

IS it me or does the CE bmw look more like the mc GTS than the normal M3

CE M3

Then the M3 GTS

They both have rear wings and front diffusers.

Those are the original 18 inch m3 wheels, the GTS comes with the optional m3 competition package wheels.

EDIT: I also hope that this picture is not showing that the only modifications that can be made will be a spoiler just like in GT4, I really hope not. I mean I would still buy the game but it would be way behind other games

 

[witham]

I think that all the preorder cars point to a liverly editor but I think PD won't let us have chrome or carbon fibre paint so we can't make the perorder cars.

 

[CoolColJ]

IMO these chrome bonus edition cars confirm some form of livery system. It may just be adding simple shapes but I'll take that.

not to mention gradient paint schemes

 

[SuperShouden]

I noticed that the all the last remaining stealth cars are all Race cars. Interesting. Perhaps will be able to create our own liveries for the race cars like in Forza 3. That would be awesome.

 

[VXR]

You can point me out as one of those who think it's imminent. I can take the heat

Do you honestly NOT expect there to be a livery editor?

It just seems against Kaz's nature. In four full games, customization has been limited to wheels and wings and so far, tuned editions have been shown for the 5th generation. I hope it's in there, as it gets a bit boring collecting cars and not being able to do anything to them, and online racing is a bit bland if all of the cars are pretty much bone stock to look at.

As for my name, I've played all three Forzas since GT4 and I kinda prefer the FM way of doing things. To play GT5, I'll need to buy a PS3 and I wonder if GT5 will be worth it for what I want from a current gen driving game.

 

[freshseth83]

1000 cars sounds worth it to me, accurate recreations of cars that is. Not Forza's half assed modeling and flat looking paint. Photo realism is one of the biggest things GT offers. I'm sure there are more skeptics out there (skeptic is the proper spelling) about GT and the customization, but this was one of the commercial's points at E3- Customization. I'm sure wheels and wings are included but this is GT5, this is next generation. When FM and NFS have livery editors, why would GT the biggest racing game, one of the biggest games period, not have it? I expect at least a paint option and stickers. The thing is to not get your hopes up then be disappointed. So expect the worse and be surprised with the rest.

 

[VXR]

Sceptic is the English spelling. And to be fair, if a lot of those 1000 cars are being brought over from GT4, then they will be 2005 cars at the latest. That's a little out of date in 2010.

 

[Sam48]

You can point me out as one of those who think it's imminent. I can take the heat

Do you honestly NOT expect there to be a livery editor?

The only difference between PD's stealth models and their regular counterparts are the liverys. So why would PD make them exclusive if the only difference was the livery? Since that is the case, no one would care to buy the stealth models.

As much as I'd like to see a livery editor, I think the stealth models are an example of why PD did not include a livery editor.

 

[Akira AC]

The only difference between PD's stealth models and their regular counterparts are the liverys. So why would PD make them exclusive if the only difference was the livery? Since that is the case, no one would care to buy the stealth models.

As much as I'd like to see a livery editor, I think the stealth models are an example of why PD did not include a livery editor.

I believe the same,if you think about it the special editions presents special textures,and no too complicated paint jobs,as an example we have the stealth paint and the chrome paint in some special editions,that is why they are special,not because of the GT logo on their side,remember people the textures is way different from paint.

 

[CoolColJ]

The Stealth models are also lighter and have more power

 

[SlipZtrEm]

1000 cars sounds worth it to me, accurate recreations of cars that is. Not Forza's half assed modeling and flat looking paint. Photo realism is one of the biggest things GT offers. I'm sure there are more skeptics out there (skeptic is the proper spelling) about GT and the customization, but this was one of the commercial's points at E3- Customization. I'm sure wheels and wings are included but this is GT5, this is next generation. When FM and NFS have livery editors, why would GT the biggest racing game, one of the biggest games period, not have it? I expect at least a paint option and stickers. The thing is to not get your hopes up then be disappointed. So expect the worse and be surprised with the rest.

Without wanting to bring this discussion too far out of the topic it belongs in... surely you see the irony in criticizing one game with "half assed modeling" when the other imports 800 models from their last-gen title from 6 years ago.

Going by your last two lines... why do you expect a paint option in, if you recognize setting your hopes low means less disappointment?

I'm still thinking we're going to be getting an editor of some sort. It's a huge selling point, and FM (as just one example) has had it since almost the same time as GT4 being released. It's about time PD recognize it's a hugely desired feature with online racing. Plus... Kaz did mention it rather pointedly in a slide presentation, an image I don't have on hand right now (but I'm sure someone does).

Sceptic is the English spelling. And to be fair, if a lot of those 1000 cars are being brought over from GT4, then they will be 2005 cars at the latest. That's a little out of date in 2010.

Agreed, and it still remains to be seen how much the Premiums can cover the wealth of quality new cars since then (not to mention some of those numbers cover some important classics, like the Cobra and 300SL).

The only difference between PD's stealth models and their regular counterparts are the liverys. So why would PD make them exclusive if the only difference was the livery? Since that is the case, no one would care to buy the stealth models.

As much as I'd like to see a livery editor, I think the stealth models are an example of why PD did not include a livery editor.

As CoolColJ mentioned, they're supposed to have performance mods just like the chrome-lines. Plus I still feel these will be considered separate from the normal models (like how PSP's unique-coloured pre-orders are considered separate models). So even if people could recreate the paintjob, they still don't have the official bonus car.

 

[eSZee]

You can point me out as one of those who think it's imminent. I can take the heat

Do you honestly NOT expect there to be a livery editor?

I expect a livery editor, but I'm not going to use exclusive, PD designed cars as proof that it exists. We had those kinds of cars in previous GT games and it proved nothing in the end.

 

[SrRd RacinG]

I expect a livery editor, but I'm not going to use exclusive, PD designed cars as proof that it exists. We had those kinds of cars in previous GT games and it proved nothing in the end.

What leads me to believe there will be one is the fact that it's Gran Turismo 5.

About damn time we see stuff that should have been in titles ago.

The only difference between PD's stealth models and their regular counterparts are the liverys. So why would PD make them exclusive if the only difference was the livery? Since that is the case, no one would care to buy the stealth models.

As much as I'd like to see a livery editor, I think the stealth models are an example of why PD did not include a livery editor.

It could be. But I think most fans would like to see it and TGS 2006's presentation seemed convincing. I refer to the livery editor on the keynote presentation.

 

[eSZee]

What leads me to believe there will be one is the fact that it's Gran Turismo 5.

About damn time we see stuff that should have been in titles ago.

So it's just more of hopes and dreams along with tons of speculation that fuel your set in stone beliefs?

 

[Tenacious D]

What leads me to believe there will be one is the fact that it's Gran Turismo 5.

About damn time we see stuff that should have been in titles ago.

So it's just more of hopes and dreams along with tons of speculation that fuel your set in stone beliefs?

Most likely. It's about all we have right now.

As for Gran Turismo needing what other games have had for years, I think a little perspective is needed here too.

Enthusia had no cockpits and no damage, pretty mediocre graphics, and lousy tire sounds. And some would argue that the physics are overrated. I don't recall anyone raving about the AI. And if I recall, it had six car races.

Toca had limp graphics, sometimes good sometimes not so good physics, nonchalant AI, and if you pay attention in replays, your car was the only one that made any sound. It had damage, and while it was sometimes great, sometimes it wasn't. Car bodies tended to crumple like cardboard for instance.

The PS2 wasn't exactly a computing powerhouse, and to excel at something usually meant something else had to suffer for it. But now that Kaz has a monster architecture to play with, I'm expecting a lot more than real life graphics and amazing physics. Even GT2 had Race Mod, and I anticipate more than just that for GT5.

 

[freshseth83]

Without wanting to bring this discussion too far out of the topic it belongs in... surely you see the irony in criticizing one game with "half assed modeling" when the other imports 800 models from their last-gen title from 6 years ago.

Going by your last two lines... why do you expect a paint option in, if you recognize setting your hopes low means less disappointment?

I'm still thinking we're going to be getting an editor of some sort. It's a huge selling point, and FM (as just one example) has had it since almost the same time as GT4 being released. It's about time PD recognize it's a hugely desired feature with online racing. Plus... Kaz did mention it rather pointedly in a slide presentation, an image I don't have on hand right now (but I'm sure someone does).

You're a troll sometimes you know that? If it aint in your agreement you blast (or try to) posters with your little comeback posts.

I'm basing the stickers and such off of a report from a magazine article that said such, and there has always been paint options for GT, have you not noticed that? Or did you think you couldn't choose a different paint job? I didnt say I expect a repaint. And GTs modeling of the cars have always been spot on. Regardless of the generation, they're always accurate and look closer to real life than any car game there is. Not just my opinion, it's the opinion of many. Weve seen examples of cars (such as the Skyline GTR) in FM3 that aren't correctly rendered. And you got a lot of nerve saying things like 'GT is importing 800 cars from their other games' when Forza has done the same thing. Show me a racing sim that has sequels with no 'carry-over' cars. You expect this and that but bash me for expecting something that has basically been repeated by more than a few sources and a paint job option that has been in GT games since day 1?

 

[Slurm]

^ so basically, you wrote all that to say that you expect to be able to choose the colour of your car? I don't think anyone would argue with that!

 

[VXR]

Ahem, the Jaguar S-Type in GT4 is nowhere near the real shape.

But I'm not starting a flame war, just some perspective is needed that both games have examples of misshapen cars.

 

[Spagetti69]

Ahem, the Jaguar S-Type in GT4 is nowhere near the real shape.

But I'm not starting a flame war, just some perspective is needed that both games have examples of misshapen cars.

Are you sure.
It's been stated on here many times by many members that GT has the most accurate models ever seen in a video game.
The members on here are quite knowledgable you know.

 

[VXR]

Lol, so it's my Dad's S-Type that's out of shape.

And all of those owners of S2000s, your car is wrong, get with the Forza program!

 

[SlipZtrEm]

You're a troll sometimes you know that? If it aint in your agreement you blast (or try to) posters with your little comeback posts.

Maybe you missed it since you can't seem to quote properly... but you did notice my last paragraph agreeing with you about getting some kind of paint/livery editor, even if it's basic, right?

I'm basing the stickers and such off of a report from a magazine article that said such, and there has always been paint options for GT, have you not noticed that? Or did you think you couldn't choose a different paint job? I didnt say I expect a repaint.

You certainly didn't word it to sound like you meant the same approach to paint as we've had so far. "When FM and NFS have livery editors, why would GT the biggest racing game, one of the biggest games period, not have it? I expect at least a paint option and stickers" certainly seems to imply something different. And besides... where did I say we won't get the usual manufacturer paint options?

And GTs modeling of the cars have always been spot on. Regardless of the generation, they're always accurate and look closer to real life than any car game there is. Not just my opinion, it's the opinion of many.

Still just an opinion.

And you got a lot of nerve saying things like 'GT is importing 800 cars from their other games' when Forza has done the same thing. Show me a racing sim that has sequels with no 'carry-over' cars.

...is what I said not true?

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=128481

You expect this and that but bash me for expecting something that has basically been repeated by more than a few sources and a paint job option that has been in GT games since day 1?

I again am really curious where you're pulling this last one from. An answer other than "out of thin air" would be nice, seeing as how I never said that.

Nice try, though 👍

 

[Tenacious D]

You're a troll sometimes you know that? If it aint in your agreement you blast (or try to) posters with your little comeback posts.

I must say that Slip is pretty heave handed in his posts if you differ with him too much. Like, see a facet in a car body in a GT4 pic, and he'll say it looks utterly unrealistic. And he'll go to great lengths to explain why you have poor vision or poor judgment if you disagree.

But to be honest, we don't have anything but scant hints about a Livery Editor, and those are pretty thin. While I agree with the yaysayers that user liveries are probably one of the most important inclusions for online racing leagues and clubs, we still just don't know for sure if we're getting them. We don't know if we're getting Racing Mod again, and I think that's almost as important as liveries. We didn't even know if we were getting used cars till E3.

We'll just have to wait and see. Kaz has promised us even more surprises, and I am hopeful we'll get our livery maker. Let's not get too defensive if someone doesn't think so, after all, we haven't had one yet and that most likely is what they're basing their view on.

 

[witham]

Has any thought about sort of works body kits and performance upgrades.

sort of like this:
1. Lamborghini murcielago-->Lamborghini murcielago sv--> (maybe a race upgrade) Lamborghini murcielago rsv

2.Ferrai 599-->Ferrari 599 GTO-->Ferrari 599 FXX

3.BMW M3-->BMW M3 GTS--> BMW M3 GT2