Gran Turismo 7 Engine Swap Compatibility

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I have a question about something I noticed:

When I replace an engine, do I have to have it in my workshop?

On Thursday, I saw that I can replace the engine in the Gran Turismo F3500-B with the Renault Espace F1 engine. But I didn't win this engine, so I don't actually have it in my workshop, right?

Do you buy the engines that you swap? That would justify the price.

But then the question arises, where do I store all the engines in the garage, as well as the tuning parts?
 
savior972
I have a question about something I noticed:

When I replace an engine, do I have to have it in my workshop?

On Thursday, I saw that I can replace the engine in the Gran Turismo F3500-B with the Renault Espace F1 engine. But I didn't win this engine, so I don't actually have it in my workshop, right?

Do you buy the engines that you swap? That would justify the price.

But then the question arises, where do I store all the engines in the garage, as well as the tuning parts?
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When you buy the engine swap in GT Auto it just replaces whatever was in the car, otherwise you can win them from tickets and those get stored as parts that you can then apply to the correct car.
 
savior972
I have a question about something I noticed:

When I replace an engine, do I have to have it in my workshop?

On Thursday, I saw that I can replace the engine in the Gran Turismo F3500-B with the Renault Espace F1 engine. But I didn't win this engine, so I don't actually have it in my workshop, right?

Do you buy the engines that you swap? That would justify the price.

But then the question arises, where do I store all the engines in the garage, as well as the tuning parts?
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You can either win engine swaps on roulette tickets, or after a certain collectors level (can't remember the exact point) you can purchase them through GT Auto.

Whenever you swap an engine, the one that is removed is gone completely.
 
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Fuzzi0n
When you buy the engine swap in GT Auto it just replaces whatever was in the car, otherwise you can win them from tickets and those get stored as parts that you can then apply to the correct car.
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And if I win the engine from the Renault Espace F1 with a ticket, for example, will the exchange be free of charge?
 
Thorson1987
Yes.
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Ah, OK, I see. I never thought of it that way. I thought I had all the engines I'd replaced so far. Except for the Chiron engine, I was a little puzzled that I had so many of them. But that explains it.

Thanks for the explanation.
 
Sir Crashalot
Just was thinking about the same. I hope for other seasons, 'cause I'm not sure I would feel happy with 94.
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So looking at the F1 regs 3.5L NA engines of multiple cylinder configs were used between 1989 and 1994 with 3.0L engines introduced in '95.
I'm thinking of taking my pick of the best looking liveries between those years and whose cars aero kits can be replicated too.
 
Zenwarrior
Lancer Gr.B on FTO is expected.
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It's not very obvious to me. In the game, we have an FTO with a 6A12 engine, but we want to install a 4G63T. The FTO also used the 4G93 engine, which is similar in design to the 4G63T, but they are still quite different in terms of layout. It seems to me that a much more interesting replacement would be the 6A13TT, but that engine isn't in the game, but its older twin, the 6G72TT, is.
 
Pakiti
It's not very obvious to me. In the game, we have an FTO with a 6A12 engine, but we want to install a 4G63T. The FTO also used the 4G93 engine, which is similar in design to the 4G63T, but they are still quite different in terms of layout. It seems to me that a much more interesting replacement would be the 6A13TT, but that engine isn't in the game, but its older twin, the 6G72TT, is.
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The GT300 car used a 4G63T. Coupled with its widebody GT Auto Type B parts, the Evo Gr.B (which is actually a 4B11T) is an obvious reference.
 
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Had high hopes for F1 Megan .
Mpg: good but not great !
Absolutely shredded its tyres round sardy !

Its certainly not a out the box world beater , some fine tuning required.
 
Thanks for the reminder... That scene haunted me for days when I watched it as a kid...
 
Famine
Gran Turismo
Gran Turismo F3500-A - RS4-Espace (Renault Espace F1 '95)¹
Gran Turismo F3500-A - V8-F3500-B (Gran Turismo F3500-B)²
Gran Turismo F3500-B - RS4-Espace (Renault Espace F1 '95)¹
Gran Turismo F3500-B - V8-F3500-B (Gran Turismo F3500-B)²
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I noticed two problems.

1. The F3500-B can be swapped with the V12-F3500-A engine. You wrote accidentally, B-B.

2. I found the second error, in part the "Engine Blocks". Here the new "Mazda Spirit Racing Roadster 12R '25" was accidentally highlighted with the 787B engine block, but this car swapped with the RX-7 block! (in the Cars list, is ok)

Mazda
13B-REW-RX-7 (Mazda RX-7 FD)
Mazda Eunos Roadster NA '89
Suzuki Cappuccino '91

R26B-787B (Mazda 787B)
Mazda 3 '19
Mazda Atenza Gr.3 Road Car
Mazda Roadster (NA) Touring Car
Mazda Roadster (ND) NR-A '22
Mazda RX-7 (FC) GT-X '90
Mazda RX-7 (FD) Spirit R '02
Mazda RX-8 Spirit R '12
Mazda Spirit Racing Roadster 12R '25 (this is it)
RE Amemiya FD3S RX-7
 
Famine
I do occasionally sneak incorrect ones into the list to discourage (and find) copycats.

If you think you've found an error, it's generally preferable to contact me privately as they don't work any more when made public...
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Oh. Ok...then I'll do it that way next time. Please delete my comment. :)
 
Um idk if this has been asked already, but is the Espace F1 engine one that works with the race fuel, so I mean does it get good fuel economy where fuel is an issue in races, I know that some use a lot of fuel.
 
A1an
Um idk if this has been asked already, but is the Espace F1 engine one that works with the race fuel, so I mean does it get good fuel economy where fuel is an issue in races, I know that some use a lot of fuel.
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Yes it has the larger tank, I've run WTC 700 Le Mans with the Espace F1 and got 3 laps out of a tank while not doing a ton of fuel saving.
 
Giygas
Yes it has the larger tank, I've run WTC 700 Le Mans with the Espace F1 and got 3 laps out of a tank while not doing a ton of fuel saving.
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Thank you, I didn't want to get into a race only to find it isn't any good with fuel.
 
Isn't anyone concerned about the Espace engine specs though? I mean, it's a naturally aspirated 3,5l V10 with 72 kgfm of torque which usually requires a pretty sizeable turbo or two for an engine of that size. Available from ridiculously low revs too. I'm not sure if there's an universe in which that's possible, but certainly not in the one we're living in.
 
Greycap
Isn't anyone concerned about the Espace engine specs though? I mean, it's a naturally aspirated 3,5l V10 with 72 kgfm of torque which usually requires a pretty sizeable turbo or two for an engine of that size. Available from ridiculously low revs too. I'm not sure if there's an universe in which that's possible, but certainly not in the one we're living in.
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It's based on the engine from the Williams FW14 to Fw16 after the 3.5L was "outlawed" from F1, which outputs 340 lb⋅ft (461.0 N⋅m) of torque as per wikipedia
 
That I can believe, but not the 520 lb·ft (705 Nm) it has in the game. The practical limit for torque in an NA engine is often quoted to be around 130 Nm per litre, the Wikipedia figure matches that well, but the GT7 Espace engine does 200 Nm per litre and it simply doesn't happen without quite a lot of forced induction.
 
Greycap
That I can believe, but not the 520 lb·ft (705 Nm) it has in the game. The practical limit for torque in an NA engine is often quoted to be around 130 Nm per litre, the Wikipedia figure matches that well, but the GT7 Espace engine does 200 Nm per litre and it simply doesn't happen without quite a lot of forced induction.
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You might not believe it but it’s what is in there.

 
Greycap
That I can believe, but not the 520 lb·ft (705 Nm) it has in the game. The practical limit for torque in an NA engine is often quoted to be around 130 Nm per litre, the Wikipedia figure matches that well, but the GT7 Espace engine does 200 Nm per litre and it simply doesn't happen without quite a lot of forced induction.
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I was curious to see which engine was the champion in this regard. I'd already admired the Honda F20/F22 engine, but I decided to check:
1. BAC Mono R (Mountune engine) - 132 Nm/L.
2. Porsche GT3 / GT3 RS (992) - 117.5 Nm/L.
3. Aston Martin Valkyrie (Cosworth engine) - 114 Nm/L.
4. Ferrari 812 Superfast (F140 GA engine) - 110.5 Nm/L.
5. Honda S2000 (F20C engine) - 109 Nm/L.

Once again, a deep bow to Honda, fifth place, when its competitors are an order of magnitude more expensive and belong to the category of racing cars.
 

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