Gran Turismo 7: Latest news and discussion thread

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Mazda3 instrument panel looks good. Might display all the information we need, similar to the RX-Vision GT3.
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Looks awesome. Group 4 is my favorite class anyway right now. Can’t wait to take this one for a spin in the ring.
 
Way to kick off Another Autumn without that Ring to counteract Maple.
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I wonder how the work on those endurance races they announced over a year ago is coming along.

I can make a custom endurance race in < 5 mins.

Just saying.
 
Saw this recently and immediately thought this is something GT Sport did wrong by having larger updates, especially towards the beginning.
It's taken from a recent GDC presentation by Bungie:
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Essentially by Polyphony giving us large amounts of content early on, players then set an expectation for content that simply wasn't sustainable long-term. The content stockpile was eventually used up until we get to what the actual production rate is.

The drop-off is why it seems worse than it actually is. We're still doing better for additional content than e.g. GT6, and GT5's new content we had to pay for on top of that.
 
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Saw this recently and immediately thought this is something GT Sport did wrong by having larger updates, especially towards the beginning.
It's taken from a recent GDC presentation by Bungie:
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Essentially by Polyphony giving us large amounts of content early on, players then set an expectation for content that simply wasn't sustainable long-term. The content stockpile was eventually used up until we get to what the actual production rate is.

The drop-off is why it seems worse than it actually is. We're still doing better for additional content than e.g. GT6, and GT5's new content we had to pay for on top of that.
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That is true, and it may be a factor to a degree, but I don't think that's why we're really seeing smaller updates. Kaz himself has confirmed how many cars that they can make in a year, and it's double what we're getting.

The likely reason is that we're only getting some of the content that they are producing and that some of it is being put aside for GT8. To be fair, that's what I'd do, it's just a shame the updates don't include more single player races and missions as those take much less effort to create and yet could add to the experience substantially.
 
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Saw this recently and immediately thought this is something GT Sport did wrong by having larger updates, especially towards the beginning.
It's taken from a recent GDC presentation by Bungie:
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Essentially by Polyphony giving us large amounts of content early on, players then set an expectation for content that simply wasn't sustainable long-term. The content stockpile was eventually used up until we get to what the actual production rate is.

The drop-off is why it seems worse than it actually is. We're still doing better for additional content than e.g. GT6, and GT5's new content we had to pay for on top of that.
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Absolutely. And to further back this up, according to Nenkai all of the circuits we have seen thus far were in development since the GT Sport days.



It was likely the case with GT Sport as well, where most of the update circuits and features were well in progress before the game even launched.
 
I get that making cars takes time. I get that making tracks takes time. I accept all of that and while every update without a new track is a disappointment it’s also no big deal.

What I don’t understand and what I don’t accept is why we don’t get more races.

It takes close to zero effort to make them.

Not giving us new races is a choice by PD and has nothing to do with time, effort or resources.

They just don’t want to do it.
 
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I get that making cars takes time. I get that making tracks takes time. I accept all of that and while every update without a new track is a disappointment it’s also no big deal.

What I don’t understand and what I don’t accept is why we don’t get more races.

It takes close to zero effort to make them.

Not giving us new races is a choice by PD and has nothing to do with time, effort or resources.

They just don’t want to do it.
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The reason why is what I want to know. Optimistically, they're waiting for Sophy to be ready and then give us an event extravaganza. But we all know deep inside that's not true.

Realistically, well, I can't think of a reason. I have been under the impression that user engagement is the metric used to evaluate a game's success. Are they satisfied with the numbers to the point they have no desire to lift a finger?
 
Man I'm so jealous of forza having my favorite gt car that I'm almost thinking of buying another series x just for a chance to drive it in that game since I know its never coming to gt7.

But I have put so much time into gt7.👍
 
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Man I'm so jealous of forza having my favorite gt car that I'm almost thinking of buying another series x just for a chance to drive it in that game since I know its never coming to gt7.

But I have put so much time into gt7.👍
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I bet you could work out a way to transfer your GT7 Credits, into real money, to buy that X. I mean, a kid used a paper clip->to buy a house. ;) This world is a bugged out place.

Along those lines, it’s why(if players have the means) it’s good to have multiple platforms to play different racing games. They all have something to offer players. Was even more frustrating when I just relied on GT for my racing needs. Going between the different raceping games eased that.
However, I’d still have some frustration because, this game has this and the other does this better and yet, the other does that better, still, it doesn’t have what other has, etc. :lol:
 
Bendough
Is it really that much more difficult to create 29 events instead of 29 scapes?
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The events would be easier to create than the scapes, far easier in fact all things considered. However, the reality is that the shots being used for the new scapes were captured some time ago. Whereas it'd take a couple of hours to create an event from scratch, the majority of the work creating scapes would be the on location shooting.
 
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The events would be easier to create than the scapes, far easier in fact all things considered. However, the reality is that the shots being used for the new scapes were captured some time ago. Whereas it'd take a couple of hours to create an event from scratch, the majority of the work creating scapes would be the on location shooting.
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They’re paying photographers to take those photos so why can’t they hire three guys from this community to create 100 events each in a month? I don’t get it

Anyway, I’m looking forward to the new cars. Maybe it’s time to buy a PSVR to refresh the game a little.
 
Bendough
They’re paying photographers to take those photos so why can’t they hire three guys from this community to create 100 events each in a month? I don’t get it
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It has me wondering about the amount of time it takes to create their race concept, make the associated builds and liveries, balance the opponents/strategies and then do some documentation somewhere. If all of it is done by the same team that has to design the menu books, it would make sense for it to take (too) long.

5 3 events in 50 days seems kind of silly compared to what players are capable of doing, though,
 
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Bendough
They’re paying photographers to take those photos so why can’t they hire three guys from this community to create 100 events each in a month? I don’t get it

Anyway, I’m looking forward to the new cars. Maybe it’s time to buy a PSVR to refresh the game a little.
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The only reason is that they don't want to. Modding new events into GT5 and GT6 has revolutionised those games for me, it's a shame we don't have more good events in GT7.
 
Yep. If PD wanted to, they could add all the special Japan only events as World Circuit races for single player.

There’s the special esports JEGT Gr.3 Japan series. Add that calendar of events as a Championship for single players.

Even all the Toyota Gazoo Racing Cup events as offline races.
 
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The only reason is that they don't want to. Modding new events into GT5 and GT6 has revolutionised those games for me, it's a shame we don't have more good events in GT7.
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My theory is they really focus on Sport Mode, which gets 12 events every month, plus 4 time trials...? The movie basically gave away PD's whole motivation: they promote Sport now and the single player mode probably only exists because of some pressure from upper management (Sony) to add a more casual element to help GT better compete against arcade games. GT7 is not arcade, but it's what Sony has in store to fight Forza Horizon and The Crew, which explains the decision.

I also believe most people who play GT7 engage into Sport Mode rather than the single player grind. This is due to recent trends in gaming and is similar to what happened to fighting games. SF6 and MK1 have campaigns of their own, but the "real" game is the online mode. Similar to GT7 and the new FM.

So, for PD, it's probably a simple decision. As someone who'd much rather play offline, I'm not comfortable with their direction... but it is what it is. I still enjoy the game but I did laugh a little at this September update.
 
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I also believe most people who play GT7 engage into Sport Mode rather than the single player grind. This is due to recent trends in gaming and is similar to what happened to fighting games. SF6 and MK1 have campaigns of their own, but the "real" game is the online mode. Similar to GT7 and the new FM.
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That's verifiably not true, thanks to PSN's trophy stats. The trophy for completing an online race has only been obtained by 13% of players, while the one for finishing 50 is at 2.5%. By comparison, 26% of players completed the Cafe mode.
 
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That's verifiably not true, thanks to PSN's trophy stats. The trophy for completing an online race has only been obtained by 13% of players, while the one for finishing 50 is at 2.5%. By comparison, 26% of players completed the Cafe mode.
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But the Café is quick and easy to complete. Takes a week at most.

There's a difference between the casual playerbase and the dedicated single player mode playerbase. Those 26% consist of both, as well as some who also play online. The people complaining about GT7's lack of substantial single player updates aren't the casuals, but the people who stuck with this game for far longer than the vast majority of players.

The trophy for acquiring all three LM67 cars, which is predominantly a single player trophy, is even lower than the one for doing 50 races in Sport.
 
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