Gran Turismo 7: Latest news and discussion thread

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GTboyz
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I don't know exactly but I think they had a falling out with PD after the C5.R was included in GT3 and GT4. Pratt and Miller didn't like the way the car was represented in the game and then refused to license the C6.R for GT5. PD of course made their own C6.R in the form of the RM, but they put the Pratt and Miller logo on the car which pissed them off considerably. I'll try to dig up the post about the whole debacle.
 
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ScottPuss20
I don't know exactly but I think they had a falling out with PD after the C5.R was included in GT3 and GT4. Pratt and Miller didn't like the way the car was represented in the game and then refused to license the C6.R for GT5. PD of course made their own C6.R in the form of the RM, but they put the Pratt and Miller logo on the car which pissed them off considerably.
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And we have proof that this isn’t made up story?
 
If that story is true then Pratt and Miller must be petty worse than Ferrari ever was
 
Famine
The absence of a "real" Corvette race car is down to a lack of a licence from Pratt & Miller - who don't appear interested in licensing the Corvette Racing cars to Gran Turismo any more, since the C5.R in GT3/4 (and subsequent games using the same car lists).
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Famine
What if P&M really hated what PD did to the C5.R in GT3 (and 4, and 5, and 6) and resolved never to deal with them again (which would also neatly explain the absence of the C6.R and C7.R)? Maybe they didn't want to licence the C6.R and got super pissed by the P&M logo on the C6 RM in GT6.
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Nebuc72
iRacing staff have also been rather vocal in the past about how much of a pain P&M were to work with when getting the Corvette C6R into the game, and how much of a pain they were to deal with when considering getting later Corvettes into the game. It was a bit of a surprise and a miracle to a lot of people when it was revealed the C8R would be coming in 2020, which is still over a half decade since the C6R debuted in the service.
Look up any info (before 2020) about new Corvette models coming to iRacing, and it all says the same thing.

It's absolutely no secret they're trouble to deal with, and considering Gran Turismo has to contend with including literally the entirety of car culture when adding new cars, I can hardly blame them for deciding not to prioritise something that's notoriously a hassle to deal with, and that's assuming P&M haven't just blacklisted them for some arbitrary reason (as far as I'm aware, the whole reason P&M were such a hassle with iRacing is because they refused to give out the intricate details the car needed for a proper representation).
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OK perhaps my story isn't 100% accurate as it's based on a "what if" scenario but based on Pratt and Miller's history, I don't think it's too far from the truth.
 
Tired Tyres
Kaz described the VR update as big. The only thing I can think of would be proper endurance races. Probable Sophy B spec. But repeatable endurance races. And I mean races. That would force me to give up on Forza Motorsport and start playing GT7 properly again.
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Yeah but this time it wasn't kas to say it's big, it was nenkai.
 
ScottPuss20
Pratt and Miller has outright refused to let Gran Turismo get their hands on ANY of their Corvette race cars.
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Nowhere they did explicitly said this, but apparently they were hard to work with iRacing so it was mostly citing that precedent - it is not an outright refusal.

EDIT: Tree'd, see above - though Famine's theory should not be taken as complete gospel either.
 
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MroczMR
This is funny that we trust Nenkai more than Kaz himself xD
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Because his "tweets" are more valid than Kaz's official account and various "promises" that he said in the past!!!!
 
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tankuroded
Nowhere they did explicitly said this, but apparently they were hard to work with iRacing so it was mostly citing that precedent - it is not an outright refusal.
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I think they asking more money for the licence plus most likely asking extra for the scans too

i can see why PD doesn't bother with them
 
So how do we think Sophy will be integrated into the game if/when it comes? I was thinking a separate collection of races much like the Chilli races we currently have like below (masterfully done) made up screenshot.

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Islaygaz
So how do we think Sophy will be integrated into the game if/when it comes? I was thinking a separate collection of races much like the Chilli races we currently have like below (masterfully done) made up screenshot.
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For me. It would be perfect to see it in all World Circuit events, but I guess this will be hard to do. Maybe "replacing" chilli races with Sophy?

I would be happy If they add it just for Custom Races even, I just want good SP content to race. I don't care for credits with this to be honest, I won't win those races against sophy anyway :D
 
Islaygaz
So how do we think Sophy will be integrated into the game if/when it comes? I was thinking a separate collection of races much like the Chilli races we currently have like below (masterfully done) made up screenshot.

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Most likely a new set of missions
 
tankuroded
EDIT: Tree'd, see above - though Famine's theory should not be taken as complete gospel either.
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I didn't posit a theory.
 
Tired Tyres
Kaz described the VR update as big. The only thing I can think of would be proper endurance races. Probable Sophy B spec. But repeatable endurance races. And I mean races. That would force me to give up on Forza Motorsport and start playing GT7 properly again.
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If it is about racing and not about credits: why not create those endurance races through custom races ?
If it is about credits you don't have to answer, I am aware, that the payouts are ridiculously low for custom races...

spokentee
i hope this the spot to post this but i was racing in the World Touring Car 700 at laguna Seca and the fuel rate anf tire wear is set at 10x 13x but the AI don't seem to pit as soon as i have too, am i doing something wrong?
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What car are you using for that race ?
 
Batschisane52
If it is about racing and not about credits: why not create those endurance races through custom races ?
If it is about credits you don't have to answer, I am aware, that the payouts are ridiculously low for custom races...
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I've only played GT7 in VR and only have around 50 hours logged, but when I played GT Sport I would constantly set up my own endurance races...cared little for the payout, I actually found the AI was slightly better in that mode when playing on professional setting.

I actually want an endurance race at one of the world series with random weather and scenarios with different classes racing with traffic.
 
Since when did PD add the pre-race radar map? I just noticed it on these time trials so I assume it was the last update. I recall a lot of people complaining that we couldn't actually study the weather before the race to choose our initial tires.

I also notice that this radar screen has an entire city map! I'll have to check out other real life tracks to see if they're using actual local map data for that.
 
Keef
Since when did PD add the pre-race radar map? I just noticed it on these time trials so I assume it was the last update. I recall a lot of people complaining that we couldn't actually study the weather before the race to choose our initial tires.

I also notice that this radar screen has an entire city map! I'll have to check out other real life tracks to see if they're using actual local map data for that.
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The pre-race radar is a new addition for 1.38.
 
Keef
I also notice that this radar screen has an entire city map! I'll have to check out other real life tracks to see if they're using actual local map data for that.
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Yeah, the real life tracks are in exactly the correct places, if you zoom in you can even see and recognise major roads that are around then.
 
My 918 "Spider" in one of the locations I saw most this week. ;) Good luck to the franchise!

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(I'm sure you noticed the Empire State Building in the background...)
 
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dimassa19
My 918 "Spider" in one of the locations I saw most this week. ;) Good luck to the franchise!

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(I'm sure you noticed the Empire Staes in the background...)
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Manhattan Bridge, I've been to the park at the bottom of that road, and the ice cream parlour by the Brooklyn Bridge a few blocks west. I think it's great seeing scapes at places I've been to.
 
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dimassa19
My 918 "Spider" in one of the locations I saw most this week. ;) Good luck to the franchise!

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(I'm sure you noticed the Empire Staes in the background...)
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Yeahp, I see it from the distance.

That's in Washington Street in Dumbo, Brooklyn (and that spot is well-known for that angle of the Brooklyn Bridge).

Makes me wish they brought back the NYC circuit to GT7 with the inclusion of Brooklyn/Dumbo layouts.
 
GBalao888
That's in Washington Street in Dumbo, Brooklyn (and that spot is well-known for that angle of the Brooklyn Bridge).

Makes me wish they brought back the NYC circuit to GT7 with the inclusion of Brooklyn/Dumbo lalayouts.
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All correct, except it's the Manhatten Bridge. It'd be nice to see the New York track back, but I don't think we'll see any new city or returning coty tracks any time soon until AI can do enough of the leg work accurately enough.
 
Going back to my post from earlier, imagine if Polyphony brought back the New York circuit to coincide with the release of Spider Man 2...

(they actually brought in a 1950's Vette to coincide with the theatrical release of Barbie.)
 
GBalao888
Going back to my post from earlier, imagine if Polyphony brought back the New York circuit to coincide with the release of Spider Man 2...

(they actually brought in a 1950's Vette to coincide with the theatrical release of Barbie.)
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Feel like that was more of a coincidence then anything actually intentional.
 
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