Gran Turismo 7: Latest news and discussion thread

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GlamFM
It seems you have missed the part where they just released the schedule for the event and there won’t be a new track.
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Eep . . . you would be correct. I missed that.
 
Famine
Where have you got that idea? It's at a jam factory.
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I believe they meant to say the city of an actual race track; but anyhow, it's people clinging to the track leaks and thinking that the leaks are promises.
 
One thing is clear, the problem with GT7 (at least in my opinion) is that Yamauchi goes through everything and doesn't listen to the fans

Adding more circuits and cars does not solve anything, nor does a new game with 20 or 30 new cars and 3 circuits

Why are there so many people playing Gran Turisno 4 on emulators? simply because of its Arcade mode

If Yamauchi would listen, and add an Arcade mode with custom races and ALL CARS UNLOCKED, all problems would be solved

Many people no longer want to collect cars, they just want to customize their race, choose a track and car and that's it.

Do you want to collect cars and start with a Honda Fit? Go ahead, no one forbids you

But GT has always been like this until GT5 (Which was for me, where the saga started to get drastically worse)

Gran Turismo 7 has a lot of power and has very good things, but it is very wasted because of not listening to people and as I said, a new Gran Turismo does not solve anything if they continue to fail something as important as what I have mentioned

Grid, Project Cars, Assetto Corsa, Forza Motorsport... They all have a mode where you can choose the car and circuit you want. Why not Gran Turismo today when it did before?

Does Yamauchi really think that everyone is going to buy 20 million cars? I highly doubt it, and especially when they close their servers.

(I hope everyone understood me and I'm sorry for writing so much 😅😅😅)
 
GranTorino91
One thing is clear, the problem with GT7 (at least in my opinion) is that Yamauchi goes through everything and doesn't listen to the fans

Adding more circuits and cars does not solve anything, nor does a new game with 20 or 30 new cars and 3 circuits

Why are there so many people playing Gran Turisno 4 on emulators? simply because of its Arcade mode

If Yamauchi would listen, and add an Arcade mode with custom races and ALL CARS UNLOCKED, all problems would be solved

Many people no longer want to collect cars, they just want to customize their race, choose a track and car and that's it.

Do you want to collect cars and start with a Honda Fit? Go ahead, no one forbids you

But GT has always been like this until GT5 (Which was for me, where the saga started to get drastically worse)

Gran Turismo 7 has a lot of power and has very good things, but it is very wasted because of not listening to people and as I said, a new Gran Turismo does not solve anything if they continue to fail something as important as what I have mentioned

Grid, Project Cars, Assetto Corsa, Forza Motorsport... They all have a mode where you can choose the car and circuit you want. Why not Gran Turismo today when it did before?

Does Yamauchi really think that everyone is going to buy 20 million cars? I highly doubt it, and especially when they close their servers.

(I hope everyone understood me and I'm sorry for writing so much 😅😅😅)
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That's the dream right there.
 
GranTorino91
One thing is clear, the problem with GT7 (at least in my opinion) is that Yamauchi goes through everything and doesn't listen to the fans

Adding more circuits and cars does not solve anything, nor does a new game with 20 or 30 new cars and 3 circuits

Why are there so many people playing Gran Turisno 4 on emulators? simply because of its Arcade mode

If Yamauchi would listen, and add an Arcade mode with custom races and ALL CARS UNLOCKED, all problems would be solved

Many people no longer want to collect cars, they just want to customize their race, choose a track and car and that's it.

Do you want to collect cars and start with a Honda Fit? Go ahead, no one forbids you

But GT has always been like this until GT5 (Which was for me, where the saga started to get drastically worse)

Gran Turismo 7 has a lot of power and has very good things, but it is very wasted because of not listening to people and as I said, a new Gran Turismo does not solve anything if they continue to fail something as important as what I have mentioned

Grid, Project Cars, Assetto Corsa, Forza Motorsport... They all have a mode where you can choose the car and circuit you want. Why not Gran Turismo today when it did before?

Does Yamauchi really think that everyone is going to buy 20 million cars? I highly doubt it, and especially when they close their servers.

(I hope everyone understood me and I'm sorry for writing so much 😅😅😅)
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Honestly, I think very similar to you. It's about half-way there. The custom race feature works well but needs some tweeks on the filter to make car searching easier. Also, AI should be able to race at full speed like in some "chilli" races... And finally, be able to select any car instead of only cars in your garage. Besides this, I would enable an option to select any livery for each car. This would be awesome to recreate some of the iconic races through the diferent racing eras. I see a loootttt of content potential in this game for Youtubers and such, but it's limited by Kaz's greed and stubbornness.
 
GranTorino91
Why are there so many people playing Gran Turisno 4 on emulators? simply because of its Arcade mode
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I don't disagree with your larger point, but I don't think this is true. A lot of what I see from GT4 content is either a) GT Mode randomiser runs, or b) GT Mode challenge runs ("can I beat the game with only red cars?" or "how far in can you get only ever spending credits on Skylines?" types of things, sometimes modded). Either way, it's GT Mode that is the draw.

That's one thing I do kind of miss actually, the ability to design a route and plan your different ways through the game. That's where the café's linearity does fall down for me a bit.
 
Well, PD had a world tour in Sydney and Monaco. We didn’t get either Sydney Motorsport Park or the Monaco GP circuit. Even though things line up, PD clearly don’t work like that. Don’t let them get in your head. We gotsta stick together and shake our GT brothers and sisters! :sly:
 
05XR8
Well, PD had a world tour in Sydney and Monaco. We didn’t get either Sydney Motorsport Park or the Monaco GP circuit. Even though things line up, PD clearly don’t work like that. Don’t let them get in your head. We gotsta stick together and shake our GT brothers and sisters! :sly:
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true - meanwhile all GT fans

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GranTorino91
Why are there so many people playing Gran Turisno 4 on emulators? simply because of its Arcade mode
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Is there a way to track the number of current GT4 players?
I don't see much point for people to go back outside of a nostalgia trip for a few days, unique content like tracks, making videos like a letsplay, or because they can pirate it for free.

But if a decent amount of people really are still playing, that's cool.
 
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PSN offapple
I don't see much point for people to go back outside of a nostalgia trip for a few days, unique content like tracks, making videos like a letsplay, or because they can pirate it for free.
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Are you kidding? I got back and play the first 4 GTs just because the career modes were just so much fun. I've probably have played GT2 alone 10-100x over GT7 this year alone.
 
Nebuc72
They are aware of it, I fed it through Mikail Hizal and PD confirmed it's an intentional design decision, lol. Same with the forced rubber banding.
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Have you asked him why they haven't updated Daiki Kasho's music in-game to the ones on the OST yet? Eight of them, including "Shadows of Our Past" and "It's All About You", got brand new recordings and mixes.
 
MXR_Sparky
Keep the faith. Anything can happen from here on, there’s still a chance.
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True there is still tomorrow, but with no server mainterance up it feels more likely that the update could drop around the live event, it happen last year once to.

GranTorino91
One thing is clear, the problem with GT7 (at least in my opinion) is that Yamauchi goes through everything and doesn't listen to the fans

Adding more circuits and cars does not solve anything, nor does a new game with 20 or 30 new cars and 3 circuits

Why are there so many people playing Gran Turisno 4 on emulators? simply because of its Arcade mode

If Yamauchi would listen, and add an Arcade mode with custom races and ALL CARS UNLOCKED, all problems would be solved

Many people no longer want to collect cars, they just want to customize their race, choose a track and car and that's it.

Do you want to collect cars and start with a Honda Fit? Go ahead, no one forbids you

But GT has always been like this until GT5 (Which was for me, where the saga started to get drastically worse)

Gran Turismo 7 has a lot of power and has very good things, but it is very wasted because of not listening to people and as I said, a new Gran Turismo does not solve anything if they continue to fail something as important as what I have mentioned

Grid, Project Cars, Assetto Corsa, Forza Motorsport... They all have a mode where you can choose the car and circuit you want. Why not Gran Turismo today when it did before?

Does Yamauchi really think that everyone is going to buy 20 million cars? I highly doubt it, and especially when they close their servers.

(I hope everyone understood me and I'm sorry for writing so much 😅😅😅)
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You bring up many great points, but forza motorsport is not better as a career mode is concerned, its worse, ac barely has any career at all, project cars just like ac those not have any progression involve with the cars or any option to upgrade,

I dont think people playing gt4 on emulators for arcade mode, its for career mode clearly witch was fantastic in gt4, and looking on the mods like specll and re-tuned for gt4 makes things really intresting.

A new gt game could solve a lot if its done right, specially if it means if gt8 would have full sophy ai integration. While new cars and tracks dosent solve a lot for gt7 it makes it more enjoyable to have cars we want,
 
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PSN offapple
I think even the first Gran Turismo had rubber banding.
Our best bet is that development for Sophy A.I. progresses at a rate to where it replaces the normal A.I. entirely for GT8 (Whenever that becomes a thing. 2029? Who knows).
Maybe then the rubber banding will be gone. Then again, maybe they use that as the way to "balance" Sophy A.I. to the player still. Hopefully not though.
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Rubber banding can be done well, it just isn’t in GT7 (and Sport and 6).

7 has some specific unique horrendous programming on top of the rubber band though. I haven’t played in almost 2 years now, but I have vivid memory of desperately trying to make the game challenging by entering the slowest cars I could, in this case the WTC600 championship with a sub-200hp AE86. Every lap without fail a car would place itself in the exact same spot, perfectly to be right in front of me and brake on the apex and be slightly off the racing line to prevent any passing opportunity through the death chicane. Then magically they’d hit the throttle on the exit and **** off down the straight, and suddenly pull a larger gap than they had coming out of the corner before the chicane section. (In my case it was almost always the Huracan, no matter where it was on the grid at the start). You can also cheese around in the first race to make one of the normal “backmarkers” win, and suddenly they’ll turn into the rabbit in the following races since they’re leading the championship and they programmed the top 2 or 3 cars to behave certain ways. I’m sure this is still something you can replicate now.

It was awful because with a slow car the AI bogs itself down until you pass it on the last couple laps and activates, then having 3-5x the horsepower and you can’t keep up. Or you take a “normal” car and pass everyone on lap 1, and even at the “max” aggression they’ve programmed they don’t pose a threat (and let me tell you, I’m no esports champion). Essentially the only thing I could do to get enjoyment out of progressing through the campaign was to enter a car much too slow for the event, and add parts or slight tune tweaks each attempt until I was passing the leaders of the last few corners on the final lap. There was no way to predict what this ideal performance level that would be.

The offset was that it caused me to build a lot of cars that became absolute blasts to drive, but man the racing was awful.

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And the holy grail: beating the Schwartzwald League in a Beetle with no engine swap:

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Just because the GTWS events aren't racing on Circuit Gilles Villeneuve, doesn't mean it isn't coming.

If the update drops on the Thursday before, then it only allows for a few day's worth of practice time. PD might feel that it would be unfair to force expert racers to race at a brand new track they aren't familiar with.

Alternatively (and this is a more sensible option from a marketing perspective) PD might be holding back the update so they can preview the new track at the event.

We are long, long overdue a new track.
 
It's all personal preferences, but for me I feel like GT5 had the best career mode. Didn't feel padded like GT3 & GT4, but still had a lot of events that all contributed to levelling up and progression. The special events in particular were a highlight.

And on the topic of Circuit Gilles Villeneuve, just because they're not using it at the live event doesn't discredit it being found in two separate areas of datamining (scapes, & Time of Day settings).
It's either a case of the circuit not being ready, or they're holding it back. Guessing the former.
It might make sense that the last planned circuit content for GT7 was in the Spec II update, and we're only getting cars until GT8.
That of course might also depend on how far away GT8 is. Nothing was said about it during Summer Games Fest so I think it's still 2.5 years away minimum.
 
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Quakebass
but man the racing was awful.
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Which diffuculty were you on? I usually find some descent competition on hard, as long as my car is not OP. I find some events much better as far as the racing goes, but yeah, some of the events lack in that aspect.
 
PSN offapple
Nothing was said about it during Summer Games Fest so I think it's still 2.5 years away minimum.
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Sony usually doesn't announce their first party stuff at Geoff's events other than a few exceptions like the TLoU remake.

Wait till the next PS Showcase. Rumored to be in September.
 
nathanh1108
Just because the GTWS events aren't racing on Circuit Gilles Villeneuve, doesn't mean it isn't coming.

If the update drops on the Thursday before, then it only allows for a few day's worth of practice time. PD might feel that it would be unfair to force expert racers to race at a brand new track they aren't familiar with.

Alternatively (and this is a more sensible option from a marketing perspective) PD might be holding back the update so they can preview the new track at the event.

We are long, long overdue a new track.
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The schedule for the event is out. There is no new track.
 
So last chance is if tomorrow afternoon(european time) they will release the usual Wednesday trailer. Otherwise we can postpone everything to next week
 
Korvregn
Which diffuculty were you on? I usually find some descent competition on hard, as long as my car is not OP. I find some events much better as far as the racing goes, but yeah, some of the events lack in that aspect.
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I immediately set the difficulty as high as it could go in every way I knew how when I fired up the game for the first time near launch. I didn’t find any challenge in standard campaign races, I had to be 100-200pp below the cap/recommendation to make it challenging almost every time, and it again was the same loop of trying to meet the leader in the last few corners. One rare exception was my LS swapped Silvia that was able to race and share corners with the AI in a later (but not final) championship, I think WTC700? The opponents were Group 4 cars.

I’d already seen in the forums how short and underwhelming the campaign was so I took it slow with this play style of making the races harder by entering extra slow cars. I think I spent 3 weeks alone on the Beetle Schwartzwald thing, trying different combos of turbo and antilag and transmission gearing to maximize the powerband, and running the suspension to the absolute limits of peak corner grip without it bottoming out and also being controllable. That really pushed the limit of the slow car strategy. I found it worth my time cuz as long as I finished the races every time I’d still be pooling up some credits that I could use on cars post-campaign. I only kinda sped up the process near the end cuz I wanted to participate in the engine Bonanza back in the day, so I quickly near-maxed out an road car F type for the final championship rather than something a bit more cursed.

But essentially, because I took my time in the standard direct campaign path, I didn’t try the chili races or missions before I lost access to my housemates PS5 that we were sharing at the time (and ironically I think two or three of them had the campaign finished before I did, and I was the only Gran Turismo nerd in the house). I didn’t get around to trying out most of the content non-essential to the final book, and since my moveout I haven’t been in a position where I felt like dropping $500 beyond bills and debt payments was a good idea, let alone on a console just to come back to a game that didn’t appear to have changed anything I had a gripe with (but I’m thinking I might be able hop back in now near the end of the year or early into the new year). Before I left I did some custom races that were mildly more entertaining, but without a fleshed out garage at the time it was still somewhat limited.

I know there’s better AI racing in specific scenarios and select curated events, but it shouldn’t be this hard to dig for certain parts of the game to have enjoyable close racing in a racing game.
 
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