Gran Turismo 7: Latest news and discussion thread

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It is. You're verbalising an incredibly tired stereotype about millennials (and I'm Gen X, so don't try pulling the "offended millennial" card) as if it's a real thing in response to people complaining about the already pretty gruesome grind in GT7 which has now more than doubled.

Weird thing to say given that you have no idea how I play the game...

... but it also savagely misses the point. The most effective way to earn money now requires 200 repeats to earn one - just one - of the high value cars in GT7. Every other way requires either many more repeats, or slightly fewer repeats but considerably more time.

Whichever way you choose to earn credits - whether you "vary between" races or not - will require dozens of repeat runs. And of course by the time you have saved up for one of these cars, which the game is sold on the premise of being able to drive, you might not be able to buy it any more.

There is a giant chasm between "spend 14.5 hours grinding this one race (or way more time grinding a bunch of others in order to earn enough money to buy ONE high value car" and "the problem with people these days is they want everything right now". People complaining about the first thing are not people to whom the second thing applies by sheer dint of complaining about the first thing.

The game simply needs more game. There's about 20% of GT Sport's activities, on a game that could have launched with all of these races - and more, considering the 25% larger car list and four additional track locations. If it took 200 hours to get through instead of 20, like GT Sport, and had high-value late stage races, like GT Sport, nobody would be bitching about the grind. At least not yet, because they'd still be playing through the game right now.
Agree totally. PD have massively dropped the ball here, makes you wonder what else they are going to do. Good will from the community got them so far, that will quickly run dry if to they don't sort out the 'game' side of things.
 
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I do hope this outage convinces more people that Online Only connectivity for singleplayer is pretty abhorrent.

Everybody wanting to play is locked out of 90% of the game right now, not because their internet is down, but because the devs cocked up.

There's no need to lock people out of a singleplayer experience for any online related reason - not now or ever.
 
I do hope this outage convinces more people that Online Only connectivity for singleplayer is pretty abhorrent.

Everybody wanting to play is locked out of 90% of the game right now, not because their internet is down, but because the devs cocked up.

There's no need to lock people out of a singleplayer experience for any online related reason - not now or ever.
Closer to 99% of the game, really
 
The extreme lengths apologists go to defend blatantly abhorrent behaviour from "PoDi" is beyond cringe.

I do hope this outage convinces more people that Online Only connectivity for singleplayer is pretty abhorrent.

Everybody wanting to play is locked out of 90% of the game right now, not because their internet is down, but because the devs cocked up.

There's no need to lock people out of a singleplayer experience for any online related reason - not now or ever.

Well, you have a pretty good reason when you are directing people to buy credits with real money and when some of the most expensive cars in game can have their prices fluctuating in real time.
 
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So many people don't seem to understand at all there's a happy medium between the payments we have (especially now) and having enough money to buy every car in under a week.
Let’s also point out that the UCD and LCD car refreshes are so slow you probably need 2-3 months to have seen every car at least once, then I’m not even talking about being able to buy them all (lolz) or wait for a specific colour combination.
 
The longer it is down, the more money they miss out from mtx's. Not like there is anything to do with the cars, when you actually get them though.
 
The longer it is down, the more money they miss out from mtx's. Not like there is anything to do with the cars, when you actually get them though.
Driving the cars is the one thing I think this game has done the best, to be fair.
The rest.. not looking so good.
 
I guess it is time to put some emails together for PoDi and Sony.

A quick reminder to any making posts on review sites/socials/emails that the only true way to make discussion actually resonate is to be concise and constructive in feedback about the product you purchased. I understand the frustration, but things poorly written and riddled with curse words and emojis will just be filtered out entirely. Best of luck to all.
Just curious, which website/gaming journalist will you write an email to? it will be interesting to see who will write about this and who wont.
 
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The others were "adjusted." I would be very surprised if, outside of the obvious 5000 Cr outliers, they're good changes.
PD really don't have their pulse on the community. They should have left that sweetener in whilst fixing their cock ups.
 
Vote with your wallets and reviews folks. GT7 might be a great game one day. But it clearly needs new management, someone who focuses on rewarding gameplay instead of plotting stars in the sky and means to sell transactions.
 
Is there no english speaking representative who people can communicate with? They have to somehow know that the community is not cool with the stuff they be doing..
 
Is there no english speaking representative who people can communicate with? They have to somehow know that the community is not cool with the stuff they be doing..
Someone we can communicate with? Lol. Lmao.
 
Is there no english speaking representative who people can communicate with? They have to somehow know that the community is not cool with the stuff they be doing..

They literally released a statement on their official twitter in full perfect english
 
Is there no english speaking representative who people can communicate with? They have to somehow know that the community is not cool with the stuff they be doing..
Considering he liked some of Mikail Hizal tweets (which were in English), i have no doubt that he at least understand some English.
 
I think the best thing they could do at this point is scrap Micro transaction altogether, bring back log in bonus and seasonal events, and implement paid DLC. Instead of having free cars, tracks, events etc. like in GTsport every month or so, users have to pay to access them. So in a way they're still able to earn revenues from their investment. Let's be frank here, videogame is a business and they're a profit making organization, they're not doing this out of good heart, they're also want to make money. A paid DLC as an alternative to MTX is fair, I think.
This is dumb. This way only few people who paid for the track/car is able to use in sport mode. And this way you obtain a desert sport mode without people using the new tracks/cars
 
People at Sony/PD should reconsider the payouts, the economy is totally broken on GT7.
Oh, they reconsidered it in today's update and you saw what happened. They know exactly what they're doing and couldn't care less about what gamers saying because Sony/PD are untouchable.
 
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I should just dig out GT4 on my PS2.... No more fracking server issues!!!

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Oh, they reconsidered it in today's update and you saw what happened. They know exactly what they're doing and couldn't care less about what gamers saying because Sony/PD are untouchable.
Sony IS untouchable, PD isn't.
 
Surely PD will rethink the single player requiring online connectivity.Even their MTX plans get ruined if no one can play the game.
And while offline play would open the gates for modded cars in online it's less of a headache for PD to fix glitches that way than whatever the hell is happening right now.
Also,fix those damn payouts
 
Surely PD will rethink the single player requiring online connectivity.
I think you've mistaken how much they care. If people can play offline, they can cheat and bypass the ridiculous MTX. The servers being down occasionally and preventing sales for a short time doesn't matter as much to them.
 
I think it's safe to say the Gran Turismo series is finished. It was already limping along after the GTS disaster. This was their last chance to make it relevant again. But short-term greed was more important to them. It will live on as a niche e-sports title. Great job Kaz. This is what you wanted all along. Forgetting the millions of ordinary players who made your game a cultural phenomenon.
 
I think you've mistaken how much they care. If people can play offline, they can cheat and bypass the ridiculous MTX. The servers being down occasionally and preventing sales for a short time doesn't matter as much to them.
Be solved if they just had a competent anti cheat or report function, though.
Cheating is such a cop-out excuse for it from PD.
 
I've never said "always online" is a bad thing, mainly because In the four years I've been playing GTS, i never encountered an issue of connection...
But, due to this thing of an issue found in the patch, always online should not be a thing, you don't know what'll happen next time, you'll probably have your servers broken the next day, and people wouldn't even be able to even play the game.
 
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