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I think this is an issue with most long standing franchises like GT. You have the fans who been here from the beginning who have certain expectations and you have people who start during other points in the franchise who have certain expectations which may or may not be same as the og supporters. It is a very delicate balance trying to satisfy the different wants of the community. Not excusing PD but just saying. Look at NFS fan base. Half think MW 2005 is the greatest game ever and others may think Hot Pursuit or another one. And because the series veered from whatever their fav in the franchise is that's why they haven't been successful. So the question becomes what will PD do moving forward? Who knows because I surely don't
 
Voodoovaj
I was coming here to say the same thing. Who thought 3million was a good idea? IMHO, there is no need for any car to be above 1mil. Maybe, MAYBE 5mil for some of the most desirable cars, but that's a short list.

Again, at $20USD/2mil credits, this car cost $30USD in real money. No thank you
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PSN offapple
You know, I'm not even sure if the crossover/SUV's would be cheap enough to be starter cars in the next game.
Unless they get pretty discounted by the Used Car Dealership, here are their prices:
  • Toyota C-HR: 26,000cr
  • Mazda CX-30: 29,000cr
  • Peugeot 2008: 29,000cr
  • Nissan Qashqai: 39,000cr
  • Honda CR-V: 46,000cr
For reference, the starting amount in GT7 is 20,000cr.

Also still a bit surprised we haven't had an Extra Menu for the category yet.
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I think that prices of cars will be 100% reestructured for GT8. The career might be in the direction of Project Cars 1-2, yk, racing cup cars, maybe having to sign contracts. Maybe start with tuned SUVS, something like the Clio Cup that is raced in Europe? Its pretty much the only type of career GT hasnt tried, and Kaz is always trying new things. Then you go up the ladder the ay you like, choose between american GT3 or european gt4, having a prestige level
 
ShonnDaylee
Kireth is Gran Turismo poison. That guy has the WORST takes on just about everything. Take everything he says with a truckload of salt.

I tend to agree with your premise, though. GT Sport brought in a dedicated race car fanbase to the franchise (Mostly only interested in racing cars, and GT3/GT4 at that). This contingent has been ported over to GT7. All they want is race cars (and as I said pretty much just GT3 cars, and a few others). a sequel to GT Sport would have been better to satiate that group. Instead, they're all over here complaining about things that were ALWAYS present in previous GT games (prior to Sport). They view vehicles like the Honda N-One, The Suzuki Carry, the Unimog, etc... as pointless additions... when in fact they are perfectly in line with GT historically. Not to mention they are all a ton of fun with the right mindset. As you said, many of them are seriously out of touch with the franchise. It's partly Kaz's fault, but that doesn't make it any less annoying.
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I started on GTS, but i always loved racing with street cars, it just feel more real, didnt really cared about racing cars, just some supercars and b/c segment hatchs. Then i just wanted modern racing cars and thats it. But with a bit of thinking, i get GT better now. Its a sandbox. its about grabbing the most random car and getting fun out of it, and when done properly, you realize its the best CAR (not racing) game on the market by 1389974981 miles.
 
It wasn't solely GT Sport being what it was that suddenly brought in a load of racing car enthusiasts.
Even when I was a kid playing GT3, the race cars were the only thing I cared about. The same for when I played GT4 (I miss Infineon/Sonoma & Motegi).
Ironically I only started having a bit more of an interest in road cars by the time of GT Sport, though race cars remain my main interest.
 
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PSN offapple
It wasn't solely GT Sport being what it was that suddenly brought in a load of racing car enthusiasts.
Even when I was a kid playing GT3, the race cars were the only thing I cared about. The same for when I played GT4 (I miss Infineon/Sonoma & Motegi).
Ironically I only started having a bit more of an interest in road cars by the time of GT Sport, though race cars remain my main interest.
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Same, I loved the JGTC and Group C cars in Gran Turismo 4 back in the day. GT3 & 4 actually introduced me to a lot of racing series I hadn’t heard of previously.
 
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ShonnDaylee
Kireth is Gran Turismo poison. That guy has the WORST takes on just about everything. Take everything he says with a truckload of salt.

I tend to agree with your premise, though. GT Sport brought in a dedicated race car fanbase to the franchise (Mostly only interested in racing cars, and GT3/GT4 at that). This contingent has been ported over to GT7. All they want is race cars (and as I said pretty much just GT3 cars, and a few others). a sequel to GT Sport would have been better to satiate that group. Instead, they're all over here complaining about things that were ALWAYS present in previous GT games (prior to Sport). They view vehicles like the Honda N-One, The Suzuki Carry, the Unimog, etc... as pointless additions... when in fact they are perfectly in line with GT historically. Not to mention they are all a ton of fun with the right mindset. As you said, many of them are seriously out of touch with the franchise. It's partly Kaz's fault, but that doesn't make it any less annoying.
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I wouldn't say poison (haven't clicked there in a while) but he's clickbait in person.
 
PSN offapple
It wasn't solely GT Sport being what it was that suddenly brought in a load of racing car enthusiasts.
Even when I was a kid playing GT3, the race cars were the only thing I cared about. The same for when I played GT4 (I miss Infineon/Sonoma & Motegi).
Ironically I only started having a bit more of an interest in road cars by the time of GT Sport, though race cars remain my main interest.
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This, people should stop the cap that old gt were mostly about quirky and slow road cars.
 
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KAlex122
I wouldn't say poison (haven't clicked there in a while) but he's clickbait in person.
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Clickbait personified is definitely a great way to look at his content. Though, it's not just that. He just has ODD opinions on everything. As I said, his takes are weird with a capital WE (Red Dwarf quote. If you know you know).

He was also one of the ringleaders for the "GT should be open world" movement. Words cannot describe just how much I DON'T want that to happen. We already have games like The Crew or Forza Horizon for that. GT shouldn't touch that format with a barge pole.

As so many others in the online only racing fanbase he's out of touch with the reality of the franchise and wants it to be a different game. GT has problems. No doubt about that, but the problems it DOES have are almost never in line with the problems he tends to try and showcase.
 
snc
This, people should stop the cap that old gt were mostly about quirky and slow road cars.
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That's not true, GT from the first one was focused on a wide range of cars with road cars making most of the roster.
Easiest way to prove this is the major backlash GT Sport received when it was announced, to the point that post release people were celebrating when the dlcs included road cars.

Racing cars are part of the franchises appeal but i wouldn't say it's the MOST appealing part of the franchise.
70/30 with 70 being road car focus
 
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Pretty sure there's a lot of complaints throughout GT history that it always has duplicates of cars like the MX5 and other small, quirky and or slower cars...
 
I get the frustration but GT always been about the road cars mostly then the race cars , later games made it more balanced but closest game to have a focus on race cars was GT Sport but even with that its stretching it

if you are not willing to wait for the next GT and want those new race cars now - you got plenty of good options out there - LMU , Automobilista 2 , Raceroom etc
 
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Auditore
That's not true, GT from the first one was focused on a wide range of cars with road cars making most of the roster.
Easiest way to prove this is the major backlash GT Sport received when it was announced, to the point that post release people were celebrating when the dlcs included road cars.

Racing cars are part of the franchises appeal but i wouldn't say it's the MOST appealing part of the franchise.
70/30 with 70 being road car focus
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And what % of appeal slow road cars have ? ;d 70/30 I would call ideal split for gt but pd not only forgot about racing cars the roster of modern sports cars is also very poor.
 
snc
And what % of appeal slow road cars have ? ;d 70/30 I would call ideal split for gt but pd not only forgot about racing cars the roster of modern sports cars is also very poor.
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I agree, the sport/racing roster needs an update, so does the way they group these cars i just pushed back on the notion that racing machines were the major appeal of GT back then.
 
Auditore
I agree, the sport/racing roster needs an update, so does the way they group these cars i just pushed back on the notion that racing machines were the major appeal of GT back then.
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Didnt write it, just noticed that slow and quirky cars werent like on top even in old games
 
snc
And what % of appeal slow road cars have ?
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That's an impossible question to answer. It's entirely subjective, but that's not the point.

You claimed GT was never about road cars, but the evidence clearly suggests otherwise.

The first Gran Turismo game was the first to include normal everyday road cars, and the focus was very much on that aspect of the game. GT has always been a car collecting game, so there are a lot of race cars that are historically relevant (important in some way) as well. Other than GT Sport, race cars have never been the main focus of the GT series.
 
ShonnDaylee
That's an impossible question to answer. It's entirely subjective, but that's not the point.

You claimed GT was never about road cars, but the evidence clearly suggests otherwise.
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Read again what I wrote, I wrote that old gt was never mostly about quirky and slow road cars. You started career with slow cars but majority of game you spend is some super car.
 
snc
Read again what I wrote, I wrote that old gt was never mostly about quirky and slow road cars. You started career with slow cars but majority of game you spend is some super car.
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No about a month ago you suggested GT series was focused on race cars, Which GT series has more race cars than road cars?

Think the Daihatsu Midget is a pretty iconic quirky slow car synonymous with the GT series, it's not even in GT7, should we riot that more quirky slow cars are added then?
 
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snc
Read again what I wrote, I wrote that old gt was never mostly about quirky and slow road cars. You started career with slow cars but majority of game you spend is some super car.
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I read it just fine, mate.

Your point doesn't hold water. No matter how you try to spin it.
 
The ideal split for update cars for me is:
  • 1x slow/medium road car
  • 1x medium/fast road car
  • 1x race/rally car
That's still 66.6'% road car content per update, and it's more likely to give everyone at least a car they may have an interest in.
I'm not advocating for every car in an update to be a race car, or even most of them. 1/3 to me would be a nice balance.
 
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PSN offapple
The ideal split for update cars for me is:
  • 1x slow/medium road car
  • 1x medium/fast road car
  • 1x race/rally car
That's still 66.6'% road car content per update, and it's more likely to give everyone at least a car they may have an interest in.
I'm not advocating for every car in an update to be a race car, or even most of them. 1/3 to me would be a nice balance.
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That is totally fair.
 
CTRL Garage
No about a month ago you suggested GT series was focused on race cars, Which GT series has more race cars than road cars?
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I wrote that majority of old gran turimo campaigns you spend in some racing car (Eskudo, Tom's Supra etrc). And to precise if not race than for sure some very fast sport car. Nobody spend majority of gameplay in some slow daily shop car :lol:
 
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snc
I wrote that majority of old gran turimo campaigns you spend in some racing car (Eskudo, Tom's Supra etrc). And to precise if not race than for sure some very fast sport car. Nobody spend majority of gameplay in some slow daily shop car :lol:
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We'll you're wrong because the majority of races in all GT series require you in road cars
 
snc
I wrote that majority of old gran turimo campaigns you spend in some racing car (Eskudo, Tom's Supra etrc).
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The majority? You are very much remembering things wrong. You just are.

In the first game you could take a stock GT-R (R33 in those days) and tune it over the course of the game and finish with it. You never had to use a race car, and many didn't.

Also, you seem stuck on this idea that GT7 is focused on "quirky cars" when in reality it's a VERY small part of the overall roster. You just don't like them. So you're inflating the issue.
 

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