Grand Theft Auto IV

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600th reply! This looks like its gonna be good. I hope they keep all the funny-named cars! I love the Rumpo!
 
Or the Faggio. Come on now, guys, it's pronounced "Fah-gee-oh".

New tidbits:
  • A thin green band around the minimap on your HUD indicates your health. (Could a second band be added to indicate armor?)
  • Physically, Liberty City is not as big as San Andreas. It covers approximately 3/4 the total area that San Andreas did.
  • Software glitch or innovative gameplay? During the final bit of the game that PSM got to see, Niko is killed by a police copter landing on his head.
  • Playstation Magazine confirms the [default] camera angle shift in GTA IV. Your view is no longer stuck hovering over the vehicle. When you get behind the wheel, the camera drops down and to the left, following the middle of the road.
 
Jimmy Enslashay
Or the Faggio. Come on now, guys, it's pronounced "Fah-gee-oh".

New tidbits:
  • A thin green band around the minimap on your HUD indicates your health. (Could a second band be added to indicate armor?)
  • Physically, Liberty City is not as big as San Andreas. It covers approximately 3/4 the total area that San Andreas did.
  • Software glitch or innovative gameplay? During the final bit of the game that PSM got to see, Niko is killed by a police copter landing on his head.
  • Playstation Magazine confirms the [default] camera angle shift in GTA IV. Your view is no longer stuck hovering over the vehicle. When you get behind the wheel, the camera drops down and to the left, following the middle of the road.
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So the health/armor meter is like the head level indicator in NFSMW/Carbon.

:lol: @ the copter landing on Niko's head.
 
Posted here for your convenience (though from GTA4.net and Planet GTA):
  • The demo which was shown is from the Xbox 360 version of the game. The PlayStation 3 version is still "a week or two behind," according to Rockstar. The build shown is 5 weeks old, and the framerate has improved considerably since the last demo.
  • At Star Junction (the GTA IV equivalent of Times Square) there is a theatre show on called T.S Pirate at the Thespian Theatre, and a camera store called Liberty Cameras. On the way to Rotterdam (where Little Jacob is situated) they passed a cocktail bar called "Bahama Mamas."
  • Little Jacob is a Jamaican gun dealer from Dukes (the GTA IV equivalent of Queens.) The weapons on offer were $100 a piece.
  • The name of each street is displayed at the bottom right of the screen as you enter it. During the demo, Niko passed through the following areas: Presidents City, Chinatown, Lancet, Hatton Gardens, Middle Park East, Lancaster, Ruby Street, Cod Row, Denver Avenue, Exeter Avenue, Northwood, East Holland, Silicon Street, Quartz Street, The Triangle, Easton, Diamond Street and Calcium Street.
  • After hailing a taxi, you need to press Y to get in one, although the controls haven't been finalised. You have the option of sitting back and enjoying the ride, using the "trip-skip" option, or paying double the fare to make the driver go twice as fast. Inside the taxi, you can see and talk through to the driver in the front. The camera view changes every 5 seconds - read descriptions of the different camera views here.
  • The TW@ Café is located in Algonquin, north of Middle Park (Central Park.) Niko submits a fake résumé/cv to the Goldberg, Ligner & Shyster website, at McReary's request. For the interview he must to goto 44 Emerty Street, The Exchange, Algonquin (visit Kikizo to see dialogue from this mission.)
  • There is a yellow light cone representing an objective, which triggers a cutscene when you walk into it.
  • Francis McReary wears a black suit and tie, has a moustache and slicked blonde hair with a strong side parting. (dialogue of the conversation with McReary can be found here.) The person who blackmails McReary is at Union Drive East. McReary texts Niko the phone number of the blackmailer, so that he can phone it and identify who is the target. The name of the cell network is "Whiz." A black comet is used for this mission.
  • The default camera angle is slightly over to the drivers' side. Different angles are available however. You can move the camera aswell, but if you're not touching it, it will remain at the more central position leaning towards the drivers' side.
  • Currently, the total number of wanted stars is 6 - the same as it was in previous Grand Theft Auto games.
  • There is a GPS system in the car, and the recommended route shows up in yellow on the radar at the bottom left of the screen.
  • You can auto-target as well as manual aim. Niko can take cover behind just about anything, and so can the cops.
  • It also revealed that Goldberg's (the shady lawyer) first name is Tom.
  • A calendar and seasons have been confirmed! We also got this which got me a bit excited for the game: "We start with Niko at Star Junction, Rockstar's version of Times Square at 5AM early in the October morning, and it's still dark, yet full of all the real character of dazzling neon Times Square."
  • More evidence of the ability to eat is coming straight from Rockstar, apparently you'll be able to buy hot dogs yourself at the many stands around the game. This contradicts the first word we received from Rockstar's Dan Houser, who said that eating was taken out due to difficulties with changing the character's physical appearance and weight throughout the game. (To me, this doesn't mean he will gain weight, it could be for health, or just for something to do.. and overeating may make you throw up)
  • Niko can access the internet at any computer in the game. He sits down at one at TW@ café by pressing the LB (L1) button, and the screen is displayed. The mouse pointer is controlled by way of the analogue stick.
There are also new screenshots which are very cool. Check them out!
 
Man oh man I cant wait. I hope I'll have a 360 by release time. :nervous:

I don't know why but it feels like theres alittle too much info coming out. Maybe its just me. :odd:
 
the one thing, ONE, that I have been waiting to hear anything about has finally been confirmed!!! SEASONS WOOT!!! Now hopefully the seasons will have as much effect as possible on what goes on around you, holidays anyone?
 
I ended up changing my preorder to the X360 one today. Hopefully it will be worth it.

Great news on the seasons and other things. I want to see the roads covered in deep snow or ice.

Just for fun, can we have ricers and Hummer-look-a-likes with 28s to blow up?
 
TS
The seasons/calendar sounds very cool, as does the in car GPS system.
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I was wondering about that but forgot to post my thoughts.

Test Drive Unlimited displayed the same image your GPS showed on your car's navigation system, if it had one. Now, I would not want to try and navigate it that way unless of course they included a way to focus on the screen and zoom in.

This is all assuming that we have an in-car camera. What other purpose would having GPS in your car do? Otherwise it would just be a another pop-up on the HUD.
 
Ebiggs
I was wondering about that but forgot to post my thoughts.

Test Drive Unlimited displayed the same image your GPS showed on your car's navigation system, if it had one. Now, I would not want to try and navigate it that way unless of course they included a way to focus on the screen and zoom in.

This is all assuming that we have an in-car camera. What other purpose would having GPS in your car do? Otherwise it would just be a another pop-up on the HUD.
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There will be an in-car camera view available, otherwise the in-car GPS system would be rather useless.
 
TS
There will be an in-car camera view available, otherwise the in-car GPS system would be rather useless.
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I knew I had read that, but that latest preview said that the camera will automatically lower and follow the middle of the road. Wasn't there news of a hood view also, or am I thinking of a different game.
 
What's the difference between a GPS system in the game and the mini map pointer from previous games?

ediit: I should read more - it recommends a route to you. But wouldn't that be pointless after you've played the game enough and you're just going to take any shortcuts you can?


KM.
 
Ebiggs
I knew I had read that, but that latest preview said that the camera will automatically lower and follow the middle of the road. Wasn't there news of a hood view also, or am I thinking of a different game.
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The default camera view will lower and follow the middle of the road, but just like in past games, you can adjust views too, one of them is in car.

KieranMurphy
ediit: I should read more - it recommends a route to you. But wouldn't that be pointless after you've played the game enough and you're just going to take any shortcuts you can?
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It does after you've played for a while, but because Liberty City is all new in GTA:IV, you'll need some help getting around when you first play.
 
I was thinking today how cool it would be if they brought back that cheat code for the "crazy pedestrians" or "Peds with weapons" or whatever the name of that was. I always had so much fun with that in previous GTA games. Molotov's going off, rockets flying everywhere, etc. :lol:
 
TS
The default camera view will lower and follow the middle of the road, but just like in past games, you can adjust views too, one of them is in car.
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I don't remember that being stated. Can you link me to where that was said? Because that would be awesome if it were true. I'm not so sure, though..

I'm having slight trouble with this GPS system thing, too. I agree with KM - it seems as if it would just be the same as the mini-map, but with a recommended route feature included.
 
TS
It does after you've played for a while, but because Liberty City is all new in GTA:IV, you'll need some help getting around when you first play.
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But it sounds like a new "feature" that's not really a new feature. They've just taken the old HUD map and renamed it and added something that other GTA-clones have already had - pointers that recommend what direction to take to help you learn your way around the map. (from what I remember, Scarface and Driver 3 would flash arrows to tell you which way to go)


KM.
 
KieranMurphy
But it sounds like a new "feature" that's not really a new feature. They've just taken the old HUD map and renamed it and added something that other GTA-clones have already had - pointers that recommend what direction to take to help you learn your way around the map. (from what I remember, Scarface and Driver 3 would flash arrows to tell you which way to go)


KM.
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Yeah, it's not new to the gaming world, but it is new to GTA.

Jimmy Enslashay
I don't remember that being stated. Can you link me to where that was said? Because that would be awesome if it were true. I'm not so sure, though..

I'm having slight trouble with this GPS system thing, too. I agree with KM - it seems as if it would just be the same as the mini-map, but with a recommended route feature included.
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Here, altough it's not confirmed if there will be an in car view.
 
In car view would be a cool addition to the game although it isn't needed.

Sorry for being a total noob, but how will the GPS system work? Links with information?
 
Puke
In car view would be a cool addition to the game although it isn't needed.

Sorry for being a total noob, but how will the GPS system work? Links with information?
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It's like the mini map, except it will be in the in car view and it will guide you to your destination (example, mission location).
 
I didn't see anything about an in-car view. From memory, when the information was released originally about the camera/view, I believe it was stated that there was no in-car view. In fact, I remember in one of the magazine previews, they said there were four camera views for in the car, and explained all of them. One of them not being an in-car view.

Sorry if I sound a little harsh in disagreeing with you, I don't mean to be, I just don't think there is going to be an in-car view.

I think you might have misread the information.
myself on the last page
There is a GPS system in the car, and the recommended route shows up in yellow on the radar at the bottom left of the screen.
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It does say "in the car", but I think that's not to be taken as a literal statement. Just like the radio is "in the car", but you see what you are changing the radio to outside of the car.

It does, however, sound like a simple mini-map with a recommended route. I hope we get a little more information on that..

Also, one of the sites that were allowed a preview jotted down some of the ads he heard on the radio while in the car. You can read some dialog here.
 
The Wikipedia article on the game (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/GTAIV), says that "according to the Official PlayStation 2 Magazine UK, "to get from one side of the new and improved Liberty City to the other will take you at least an hour."

Considering that the map is supposedly smaller than San Andreas, I find that very hard to believe - you could easily cross from one side of the San Andreas map in less than 10 minutes.


KM.
 
Yeah, that information was released a while ago with some other dodgy information. It was obviously false. There have been a couple of overly optimistic creations of information floating around.
 
Jimmy Enslashay
I didn't see anything about an in-car view. From memory, when the information was released originally about the camera/view, I believe it was stated that there was no in-car view. In fact, I remember in one of the magazine previews, they said there were four camera views for in the car, and explained all of them. One of them not being an in-car view.

Sorry if I sound a little harsh in disagreeing with you, I don't mean to be, I just don't think there is going to be an in-car view.

I think you might have misread the information. It does say "in the car", but I think that's not to be taken as a literal statement. Just like the radio is "in the car", but you see what you are changing the radio to outside of the car.

It does, however, sound like a simple mini-map with a recommended route. I hope we get a little more information on that..

Also, one of the sites that were allowed a preview jotted down some of the ads he heard on the radio while in the car. You can read some dialog here.
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Yeah, I probably just misunderstood what you wrote about the in-car GPS feature.
 
I don't know....86% complete as of just a few weeks ago so why would they need 6+ months to finish it? Esp. with the DLC planned for Spring.
 
ExigeExcel
Well that's a kick in the go-nads for PS3 owners.
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Not sure what you read, you might want to read that quote from Take-Two's press release a little closer.

Take-Two is reducing its fiscal 2007 guidance primarily to reflect the movement of the launch of Grand Theft Auto IV for the PLAYSTATION®3 computer entertainment system and the Xbox 360™ video game and entertainment system from the fourth quarter of fiscal 2007 to fiscal 2008, due to additional development time required to complete the title.
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However, if you want to get all format-warish and talk about getting kicked in the go-nads, you might want to read up on Rock Star's recent announcement on their latest upcoming developmental franchise that will be exclusive to the PS3... but maybe it's best to not talk about wounded go-nads and other Rock Star games. ;)


As for the delay, while it is bad news for Take-Two and their bank account by missing their fiscal year target and the big Holiday sales window. For gamers, if it means six more months of development to get it right, then by all means I'd prefer that than have a rushed product with glitches and missing features.

Granted, for those with HDDs, they might have been able to fix and add some of those issues with a software update, but for many X360 users without HDDs, they would be stuck with a not ready for primetime version of the game... and thus a kick in the go-nads? ;)
 

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