Grand Turismo Sport MISSED THE MARK!

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The guy is allowed to have his say without people trolling him surely. Just because we all played it already doesn't mean newcomers should stay in the background.

Doesn't matter if he played for 1 min or 1 day, he doesn't like it. It is that kind of game.

Just don't click on the thread if it's just another whiner to you. That's worse.
 
How could you possibly think there would be a C4 if nothing ever hinted that there would be a C4? Why make up features for a game and then get angry when they obviously aren't there?
 
DaveTheStalker
You honestly don’t think other people have had this same thought since October? You couldn’t swipe through a couple of pages and find a thread bitching about the game? You had to go an start a brand new thread?

Man, brand new people should have read and commented in 100 threads before posting a new thread.
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You're not a member of staff, so don't tell other members how, when and where they can post.

Not a discussion point.
 
JayRS200
The guy is allowed to have his say without people trolling him surely. Just because we all played it already doesn't mean newcomers should stay in the background.
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His say is so out of touch that trolling is almost the right response. But I didn't see any trolling. I saw appropriate replies for the type of thread. Also, the OP is not a newcomer to the GT series.

He said:
Not sure about you guys but I am very disappointed in this game. Graphics and game play are good. But they missed the heart of what I think most of us wanted. The ability to have massive single player offline playing collecting cars, changing wheels, changing parts, changing color schemes and tuning. Then taking your creation and going out and winning more races to make money to buy more cars. I was hoping they would have all of this plus the ability to go online with your personal creation and race with that. Disappointing. Was hoping to get the C4 corvette and customize that fully then racing with it online. Oh well...
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1)No one knows what "most of us wanted". I didn't know I wanted sport mode until I tried it. I now know I wanted it.
2) Single player offline will be added this month
3) we can collect cars
4) we can change wheels
5) we can have entirely unique liveries for each and every car
6) we can take our creations and win more races to make money to buy more cars
7) we can go online with out personal creation and race

Basically the OP is disappointed there's not a big offline career (only sensible point in the thread imo), no C4 Corvette and no turbos, exhausts, etc.

The Career should come this month, the whole car list was known before the game released and the changing parts is not something that would ever be a deal breaker for someone to say that GT missed its mark.

Doesn't matter if he played for 1 min or 1 day, he doesn't like it. It is that kind of game.
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The title doesn't say "I don't like GT Sport" or "GT Sport missed my expectations".

It's hard to have sympathy for people who buy games without looking into them first to know what to expect, and then complain those games are crap because their expectations weren't met.

The hint that GT Sport would be different is right there in the title.

Also, it matters if someone plays the game for 1 min or 1 month in order for me to give their criticism any credit. There are no games that you can make a final judgement about after playing for 1 min or 1 day. Unless you have no idea about the game you just bought and are surprised by it. But that just makes you a naïve buyer, at best.

Just don't click on the thread if it's just another whiner to you. That's worse.
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The title looks like clickbait to me and invites people to troll it.
 
zzz_pt
His say is so out of touch that trolling is almost the right response. But I didn't see any trolling. I saw appropriate replies for the type of thread. Also, the OP is not a newcomer to the GT series.

He said:


1)No one knows what "most of us wanted". I didn't know I wanted sport mode until I tried it. I now know I wanted it.
2) Single player offline will be added this month
3) we can collect cars
4) we can change wheels
5) we can have entirely unique liveries for each and every car
6) we can take our creations and win more races to make money to buy more cars
7) we can go online with out personal creation and race

Basically the OP is disappointed there's not a big offline career (only sensible point in the thread imo), no C4 Corvette and no turbos, exhausts, etc.

The Career should come this month, the whole car list was known before the game released and the changing parts is not something that would ever be a deal breaker for someone to say that GT missed its mark.



The title doesn't say "I don't like GT Sport" or "GT Sport missed my expectations".

It's hard to have sympathy for people who buy games without looking into them first to know what to expect, and then complain those games are crap because their expectations weren't met.

The hint that GT Sport would be different is right there in the title.

Also, it matters if someone plays the game for 1 min or 1 month in order for me to give their criticism any credit. There are no games that you can make a final judgement about after playing for 1 min or 1 day. Unless you have no idea about the game you just bought and are surprised by it. But that just makes you a naïve buyer, at best.



The title looks like clickbait to me and invites people to troll it.
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tldr. The guy is allowed his opinion and trolling is never appropriate. End of.
 
JayRS200
tldr. The guy is allowed his opinion and trolling is never appropriate. End of.
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Good way to avoid what I just said. But please, go ahead and quote (or just report) all that trolling that you've found ignoring most of the other replies, with valid points.

Also, I didn't say he wasn't allowed an opinion. So, your point is mute.
 
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zzz_pt
Also, it matters if someone plays the game for 1 min or 1 month in order for me to give their criticism any credit. There are no games that you can make a final judgement about after playing for 1 min or 1 day. Unless you have no idea about the game you just bought and are surprised by it. But that just makes you a naïve buyer, at best.
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I don't know about that, i have bought couple games lately which was either bad or what i didn't expect it to be and deleted it after couple hours, the last Ghost Recon Wildlands was one, it wasn't anything like Ghost Recon at all, the second was PC 2, the AI was bad not as bad as PC 1 but still bad and the graphic on PS4 was a real letdown, the road surface was blurry and aweful, so it was deleted pretty fast.the AI was bad not as bad as PC 1 but still bad and the graphic on PS4 was a real letdown, the road surface was blurry and aweful, so it was deleted pretty fast, so i didn't had to play it for days to see if the game was good or not.

But i find walkthroughs useful to see if a game is good or not or if the game is what i expect it to be, some says you have to play it before you can judge it, but i disagree, it's very useful for me at least :).
 
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IngRobNy
I don't know about that, i have bought couple games lately which was either bad or what i didn't expect it to be and deleted it after couple hours, the last Ghost Recon Wildlands was one, it wasn't anything like Ghost Recon at all, the second was PC 2, the AI was bad not as bad as PC 1 but still bad and the graphic on PS4 was a real letdown, the road surface was blurry and aweful, so it was deleted pretty fast.
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That's what I said. If you expect something specific and you don't get it, you'll be disappointed. That doesn't mean your criticism of the game as whole is valid if you only played it for 1 day.

I got PC2 on day one and I don't agree with your view on it. Graphics weren't as good as what I expected (at night with full grids) but that was not enough for me to scrap it all together. It has plenty of great things going for it that you won't find in any other game.

The OP wrote in the title that the game itself missed its mark and then went on to write things that are in the game as if they weren't.
 
zzz_pt
The OP wrote in the title that the game itself missed its mark and then went on to write things that are in the game as if they weren't.
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I agree, it isn't Gran Turismo that missed the mark, Gran Turismo Sport is everytning PD said it will be and now it will be even better than PD said, with the GT League :).
 
IngRobNy
I agree, it isn't Gran Turismo that missed the mark, Gran Turismo Sport is everytning PD said it will be and now it will be even better than PD said, with the GT League :).
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I have to agree, if you read the retail package PD delivered 100% and then some of what the game advertised it to be.
This is the same as someone buying the new COD WW2 game and then complaining because the game does not have laser guns, wall running and hover craft because past COD games had that content.
I personally think PD made a much better game as car collecting, playing offline against a weak AI has much less long term replay ability without getting old and stale than the content offered here with the focus being online racing against human opponents.
The Game sure did not miss the mark for a lot of players.
 
JayRS200
tldr. The guy is allowed his opinion and trolling is never appropriate. End of.
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Yes he is. Doesn't mean I have to agree with it!
I and others have shared our opinions too. I can see no trolling. Maybe somewhat tongue in cheek but nothing overtly patronising or degrading. If mild rebukes are offensive, then I suggest an echo chamber.
 
Isn't the OP the description of gt5? and GT6?

I dunno, "missing the mark" assumes their target and your target were the same thing and I don't think that's the case. Personally, I was (and still am) hoping for more online cup races, online tournaments, etc. all hosted within the game rather than having to come here and join forum leagues. It's not that you guys are a bad bunch, but having it all built into the game is easier for me and my life.
 
Renrag39
Yes he is. Doesn't mean I have to agree with it!
I and others have shared our opinions too. I can see no trolling. Maybe somewhat tongue in cheek but nothing overtly patronising or degrading. If mild rebukes are offensive, then I suggest an echo chamber.
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Care to explain how rose tint players can create threads about how nice GTS is and they don't get polluted by negative posts? How about showing the same consideration to people who create threads like this?
 
Renrag39
Yes he is. Doesn't mean I have to agree with it!
I and others have shared our opinions too. I can see no trolling. Maybe somewhat tongue in cheek but nothing overtly patronising or degrading. If mild rebukes are offensive, then I suggest an echo chamber.
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You don't get to set the standard for that, the AUP and the staff do.

You're no the one who has had to delete the less than mild rebukes and abuse from this thread, nor the one that's had to issue warnings to members that posted them.

Posts that I am sure were in some part made by members emboldened by what you think of as mild rebukes.

You don't have the full picture, nor do you have the mandate to make this call, nor quite frankly do you own the site. So you don't get to determine what the AUP is or how it's interpreted.

Oh and just in case it's not clear, this isn't a point for debate or discussion.
 
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Tired Tyres
Care to explain how rose tint players can create threads about how nice GTS is and they don't get polluted by negative posts? How about showing the same consideration to people who create threads like this?
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Certainly. Taking off the Rose tints and digressing somewhat, I was a bit disappointed with GT5. I never bought GT6. I was in a Battlefield phase after my disappointment made me turn elsewhere and have no qualms about my decision or, in hindsight, how little chance I gave the game before leaving it. I say this only to affirm my non-fanboy status which is still debateable, of course.
Secondly, a forum is for debate, if the users wish it to be or the subject warrants it. What form that debate can take can be one of complete agreement, complete disagreement or more commonly, a bit of both. They can be muted or lively. I don't believe I have insulted anyone directly (ad hominem). Yes, I have disparaged the OP's original opinion because I believe, before and after posting, that the OP has not had long enough to form a valid opinion about the game. That is MY belief and may be at odds with the OP's belief. However both viewpoints are valid to the owner and the owner alone.

Fwiw, I believe his opinion is similar to that of saying:-
'I hate that car, I've never driven it but it's terrible and a deathtrap'
'Why?'
'Because it's Blue'

I do not want to disabuse anyone of the fact that they can express an opinion, I will actively fight for their opinion to be heard, even if I do not agree with it. However, I will not grant them the belief that if I feel my opinion has any value whatsoever (also regularly debateable) , that I will not share it. Furthermore, I would welcome the same in any thread I start or to any post I have made, such as this one. It could be a learning opportunity after all.
Thank you @Tired Tyres for giving me the opportunity to explain my position.
 
Scaff
You don't get to set the standard for that, the AUP and the staff do.

You're no the one who has had to delete the less than mild rebukes and abuse from this thread, nor the one that's had to issue warnings to members that posted them.

Posts that I am sure were in some part made by members emboldened by what you think of as mild rebukes.

You don't have the full picture, nor do you have the mandate to make this call, nor quite frankly do you own the site. So you don't get to determine what the AUP is or how it's interpreted.
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That was not my intention. I apologise wholeheartedly if my posts have upset anyone in any way, or that they may have felt personally attacked. I will accept any recourse due to my actions but not of others as I have no control over anything other than my own posts.
 
Renrag39
That was not my intention. I apologise wholeheartedly if my posts have upset anyone in any way, or that they may have felt personally attacked. I will accept any recourse due to my actions but not of others as I have no control over anything other than my own posts.
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I've not intention of giving you a warning for other people's actions.

I'm highlighting the issue that posts of the nature you made can cause.

You don't have the full picture, you don't know what the potential result of condoning even the mildest of the personal rebukes can be.

The staff do, which is why we have a rather simple and straightforward approach.

If people play the ball and not the man we don't get involved.

However play the man instead and we will enforce the AUP, which doesn't allow for any form of personal attacks. As such mild is an irrelevance.
 
I'm glad to hear it. I only wished to clarify. Not all Mods (elsewhere) hold to your standards.
I do understand the position you're in. Been there very briefly and never again!
I accept I have misspoken and hope my apology stands. In place of rebuke, I should have said 'difference of opinion'.

I would alter my post but then none of this would make any sense. I hope someone can learn from my faux pas.
 
stevenhiggster
Am I gonna have to copy and paste my whinese comment from yesterday again?

Anyway your single player content will be with you shortly. In the meantime give sport mode a try, you never know, you might actually like it.
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Personally i find it hard to understand why anyone would want to race against a computer when you can actually try and beat real people.

Each to their own though
 
LBDN123
Personally i find it hard to understand why anyone would want to race against a computer when you can actually try and beat real people.

Each to their own though
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Same thoughts myself. After racing against human opponents the thought of racing against slow and predictable AI just seems absolutely pointless!
 
stevenhiggster
Same thoughts myself. After racing against human opponents the thought of racing against slow and predictable AI just seems absolutely pointless!
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I remember the first time i discovered iracing. The general excitement of trying to hold on to something ridiculous like 10th far outweighed playing a game against AI.

Sure, there are annoying times when you get hit from behind etc but even then the enjoyment from online racing is far greater than beating an AI car driving at a pre-determined speed.
 
LBDN123
Personally i find it hard to understand why anyone would want to race against a computer when you can actually try and beat real people.

Each to their own though
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Just as I will never understand racing against a bunch of dirty punters in a race game. If I couldn't race against predictable AI that allows me to create challenges for myself I'd give up race games. It's a fundamental different approach to the concept of gaming and what different people use games for. You've got yours and I've got mine.
 
Tired Tyres
Just as I will never understand racing against a bunch of dirty punters in a race game. If I couldn't race against predictable AI that allows me to create challenges for myself I'd give up race games. It's a fundamental different approach to the concept of gaming and what different people use games for. You've got yours and I've got mine.
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Where's the challenge in predictability?
 

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