GT 6/PD/Sony Micro Transaction Class Action Lawsuit?

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LTRFTP here: Has anyone been thinking that there should be a class action lawsuit in regards to the price gouging for credits and how credits/rewards have been set up in this iteration of the game?

GT5 DLC pricing was pretty much around $1/car and such. XL edition improved on that further and gave you a $20 voucher to spend.

It seems that in GT6 we are getting less credits and cars as rewards for winning and everything appears to have been set up (maintenance on cars, wear and tear after ~500 miles, the sheer cost of upgrades) in a way that it implies the player should purchase credit to actually have some fun in the game. There is no "discretionary" spending allowed here!

Since we paid what is pretty much full retail price for the game, which was the standard launch price; Shouldn't we be getting the full game? And not a full time job grinding for credits instead?

The sheer price of credits for in game spending is astounding. I am not paying almost 3 times the price of the game just to get 1 car. If the game had been for free then I would have understood the reason to charge everything. But it isn't.

So this leads me to my next question. It is pretty obvious that we are being subjected to price gouging. I wonder if anyone else thinks the same and is considering legal action so that developers hear us loud and clear that we are not going to let them take advantage of us and rape our wallets?
 
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If this class action thing works, please put Ferrari, Porsche, Lamborghini, and Pagani on the list for future suits, I'd sure love to pick up a supercar or two for $50K:lol:
 
X-Power
There are some ridiculous and downright moronic people on this forum now. It's a videogame! PD haven't murdered anyone!
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I agree with this, some people are taking this to an extreme, I'm critical of PD's actions but this is just way off base. Though I would say X-Power be careful how you say things, I don't have an issue with how you word this but a mod may.

The day PD put a car or two in DLC that you purposely need to buy to finish the game then we should talk about this.
 
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prabal34
The sheer price of credits for in game spending is astounding. I am not paying almost 3 times the price of the game just to get 1 car. If the game had been for free then I would have understood the reason to charge everything. But it isn't.

So this leads me to my next question. It is pretty obvious that we are being subjected to price gouging. I wonder if anyone else thinks the same and is considering legal action so that developers hear us loud and clear that we are not going to let them take advantage of us and rape our wallets?
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I am assuming you are a teen without much idea of how the world works, but since a video game is a non-essential good, they can charge what they like. If you do not like it, give it a negative review on a site like metacritic (FM5 is hovering around a crushing 5/10 average because of their microtransactions), and sell the game.

In other words, vote with your wallet.
 
I agree GT6 is a game, not a job for crying out loud. A red Bull would cost upwards of $50 to get legitimately for me, on top of the $64.99 I paid to get the game in the first place, that's pricey for a videogame that will probably have future pay DLC as well. Now if they want to give up all those X2014's without having to buy them on PSN than that starts to make up for it I guess but the gouging is true, some people either have a real life or dont want to keep paying over and over for a PS3 game. If I was ultra serious about online racing I'd hit i racing and pay their fees, as it is GT6 is becoming as expensive (for somebody who spends say $100 to get $14,000,000 in game for a Red Bull, a Le mans, and an FGT.

Thankfully a way was discovered to actually get some money, and I think alot of use are happy that the KARMA hit them exactly where it should.
 
ShiftingGears
...vote with your wallet.
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What he said! I'm leaning more & more towards not supporting PD anymore, so no DLC for me in GT6, & it will probably be the last title I buy. Also, no PS4 for me either, I might go over to PC sim racing. I'm the kind of guy who likes to use only one simulator, as it's too confusing for me to switch between different physics models. I think how Sony & PD handle the 20 million glitch, & the backlash against macrotransactions, will win or lose them many loyal customers.

I did consider what you the OP said about legal action; but Sony & PD haven't done anything illegal. Unethical, yes; illegal, no.
 
Whenever i read "I paid full price, i want everything nao" i laugh. Since when is that a valid argument when it comes to games. GT has always been grindy, you should do some research before paying for a game next time.
 
In my opinion it was a bit of a corporate cop-out, however i thank the pd employee, who probably is out of work now! for leaving the money glitch to allow players,if they wish, the chance buy all they could ever need to have all the fun they ever wanted in this game.
 
Glenalz81
In my opinion it was a bit of a corporate cop-out, however i thank the pd employee, who probably is out of work now! for leaving the money glitch to allow players,if they wish, the chance buy all they could ever need to have all the fun they ever wanted in this game.
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Do you have a link to the money trick glitch?
 
Lol @Gedaman google 20million credits free Gran Turismo 6, about 1000 videos will pop up.

Dang guys, @prabal34 they just trying to be American and sue people! Sometimes I'm scared about starting a thread, 3 things could happen.

1. Nobody replies, I'm forever alone, or they don't care.
2. People jump down my throat and blast my thread and/or opinions to pieces.
3. They all agree and unanimously band together in unity that hasn't been seen since the Berlin Wall being broken.

Somebody has an opinion, I don't agree with it, but I ain't gonna blast their reputation, call them out, make generalized assumptions to who they are. Dang internet, you scary. :(
 
andy0a
Lol @Gedaman google 20million credits free Gran Turismo 6, about 1000 videos will pop up.

Dang guys, @prabal34 they just trying to be American and sue people! Sometimes I'm scared about starting a thread, 3 things could happen.

1. Nobody replies, I'm forever alone, or they don't care.
2. People jump down my throat and blast my thread and/or opinions to pieces.
3. They all agree and unanimously band together in unity that hasn't been seen since the Berlin Wall being broken.

Somebody has an opinion, I don't agree with it, but I ain't gonna blast their reputation, call them out, make generalized assumptions to who they are. Dang internet, you scary. :(
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Bravo sir! I applaud this..
 
SMH.....

For the record Forza 5 is hundreds of times worse.

You can get everything in the game without spending another penny extra, you just have to .... you know.... play it. That would be the point of buying a game.
 
This thread is absurd. You can get any car in the game for free, by just playing the game. The credit-buying thing is optional, not required. It's a shortcut for people who don't like to invest a lot of time or effort into getting farther in the game.

Jesus, what has happened to video gamers? I can tell many of you never played in the gold old 8-bit days. Probably at least half the people who ever played Battletoads on NES never experienced the game beyond the third level (of 13), because it was so 🤬 hard to beat. Did anyone talk about suing them? No! Most people, myself included, realized we'd never want to invest the time necessary to master that game, and simply moved on.

Or we used the Game Genie to cheat. Which, come to think of it, is kinda like the GT6 credit-packs. Something that you could buy to make a game easier. If you didn't want to shell out the money for a cheating device, then you played the game a lot more until you got good enough at it to beat it.

It's a game-maker's prerogative to make their games as hard or easy, as short or as long, as accessible or not, as they see fit. If you don't dig it, don't buy it.

I hate to sound like a grumpy old man, but the rampant sense of entitlement these days is unbelievable.
 
Would a class action lawsuit by those who purchased credits with real money stand a better chance since it turns out credits could be had for free via faulty software?
 
As much as you may like to think otherwise, you are only entitled to what you pay for in the game when they release it. DLC and micro-transactions, are irrelevant even if they were available with the game on release. You're not entitled to anything more than what they deem the initial retail purchase is worth, and there's no way you can argue otherwise. The only way this would even be feasible is if there were some sort of false advertising involved. You were well aware of what you purchased, you just don't like it now. Just because you don't like it doesn't mean you're entitled to it.

Secondly, I think the whole price gouging is all in your head due to the micro-transactions. There's nothing added or removed from the game to entice people to purchase credits, and furthermore nothing in the game that even advertises it.
 
Glenalz81
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Thank you for posting the video link without being condescending. It appears that Polyphony Digital/Sony has figured out that people are using this trick now. There is a new GT6 update that is over 1.2 GB again. It seems like they're being more generous with the in game credit earning.
I hope that there weren't any employees working on the game who lost their job over this glitch.
 
Thank you everyone for your input. I feel a lot better knowing that there are varying opinions out there. I also appreciate most of you telling me to play the game out, which is what I intend to do. I am glad I didn't do the credit glitch and am going to take this as an opportunity to learn the tracks better and enjoy the game for what it is.
 
prabal34
Thank you everyone for your input. I am glad I didn't do the credit glitch and am going to take this as an opportunity to learn the tracks better and enjoy the game for what it is.
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I will be doing the same thing. I attempted to take advantage of the credit glitch, but found out that you need to have multiple millions of credits already earned to exploit it. I also heard that there is a glitch on the Ascari race track, but I will disregard that as well.
I plan on playing the game the way that it was intended to be played, without purchasing credits with my own real money. I hope that the new update with additional credit winnings from each race will appease most players.
 
prabal34
It seems that in GT6 we are getting less credits and cars as rewards for winning and everything appears to have been set up (maintenance on cars, wear and tear after ~500 miles, the sheer cost of upgrades) in a way that it implies the player should purchase credit to actually have some fun in the game. There is no "discretionary" spending allowed here!
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The wear and tear after 350 miles thing is a bug. It's not intentional. And the restoration costs that much because the wear and tear should last a lot longer than it currently does.

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/thre...rates-way-too-fast.292723/page-5#post-9094147
 
PLEASE take this proposal to a lawyer and get a notarized contract for him to take on the case. I would love to read THAT story. Until that point, this is on my "pay no mind" list.
 
There are some ridiculous and downright moronic people on this forum now. It's a videogame! PD haven't murdered anyone!
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Free speech doesn't necessarily mean you should speak. Or start idiotic threads.
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Isn't this a little too abrupt a way to criticize somebody who speaks his mind, however wrong his opinion may be?

Although I do disagree with OP about the lawsuits, lawyers, legal action etc., I do see his rational about PD decreasing the "monetary" prizes and increasing the costs of upgrading and "maintenance". It surely looks that this is done with one or both of the following purposes:

1) PD intends to keep us playing GT6 for a longer time than GT5, which is a totally fair game on their behalf and surely I can not blame them for it.

2) PD intends to maximize their profit, especially now while the title is still new and exploit people who have the money but not the time to forward their progress in the game as fast as possible, which again is totally legitimate since there is an alternative way to do so, by taking your time and just play the game. Hence a lawsuit would never have a chance since they do not oblige you to buy credits, they are offering you an option to do so.

Although I do not agree with the second policy as a gamer, since I do not have the time ;), if I was a PD shareholder I would applaud their way of thinking.

Then again I am feeling kind of pissed, not especially towards said company but to the whole industry because of their continuing and relentless effort to "milk us dry" (I do not know if the expression is correct, hopefully you get my meaning).
 
andy0a
Lol @Gedaman google 20million credits free Gran Turismo 6, about 1000 videos will pop up.

Dang guys, @prabal34 they just trying to be American and sue people! Sometimes I'm scared about starting a thread, 3 things could happen.

1. Nobody replies, I'm forever alone, or they don't care.
2. People jump down my throat and blast my thread and/or opinions to pieces.
3. They all agree and unanimously band together in unity that hasn't been seen since the Berlin Wall being broken.

Somebody has an opinion, I don't agree with it, but I ain't gonna blast their reputation, call them out, make generalized assumptions to who they are. Dang internet, you scary. :(
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Yea, it's really sad. I agree with alot of what the OP says. Cars prices are ridiculous. If you're a fan of certain types of cars, even with the increased payouts, it will take a eternity to obtain even most of them. And I'm about tired of reading people jump down people's throats from high on a soapbox with generalized assumptions about how entitled people must think they are or whatever. That can go both ways because my generalized assumption about these type of people is that they are jobless game elitists that enjoy grinding who are mad because they thought through their grinding they'd have the only 20 million dollar car in the lobby OR they are just spoiled lovers of everyday grocery getter cars that think the economy is just fine because they can buy 3 of the cars they like by running one race and have zero consideration for what others may enjoy.
 

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