GT Academy - Lets get them to disable the handbrake!!!!

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iamjamen
Have you ever tracked a car before?
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I know your question is not aimed at me, but.... Yes, and do so frequently.
In fact, I've ran wtw (wheel to wheel), simple track days, autos, you name it. I've used the handbrake several times, before in tighter sections, where you need more rotation, or to reduce understeer in a given situation. Now, I'm not talking about a full-lock, or a flat-spot enducing yank, but just a pull here or there.

The question is, have you ever tracked a car before? Or dare I say, competitively? Because I have, and there are MANY different driving styles out there, if you didn't already know that ;)


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The e-brake thing is just what most motorbikers have known for ages. If you need to tighten the line through a corner gently apply the rear brake. It helps load up the rear suspension to get it to turn tighter without losing momentum.
 
It's quite simple, really. Show me a video of a pro race driver using an e-brake on a race track (not a rally stage) in a normal race that is driving a GT-R.

It's a game exploit. Plain and simple.

The main thing is, in a competition where the ultimate goal is to be put in REAL cars and allowed to race, the game should promote the same techniques that WOULD be used IRL. If nothing but a shoot-out on consoles were the final stage, I'd say, sure, exploit away all you want. But once the prize and final stage is to go into the actual car and race an actual race, ONLY real life techniques (of THAT real life car and those real life tracks) should be allowed.

I mean, for Pete's sake! The game allows almost consequence-less barging and flagrant track cutting. Do you think for ONE minute any of that will be tolerated once they put these 'exploiters' in a real GT-R? If the end game is driving a real GT-R, the selection process for that honor should involve the same behavior that will be necessary on track day. And that means not grabbing for the e-brake because, in a GAME it's faster than it would be IRL.

I feel that disabling the e-brake for this challenge should be implemented, but it's only a Band-Aid. What REALLY needs to be fixed (because this exploit will become epidemic as the years go by once leaderboards become implemented) is the game physics to where this exploit mirrors its' real life effectiveness.
 
Wolfe
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If I still had GT5 I'd fire up my capture card and record the Tsukuba hairpin license test (I think it featured a Peugeot) to show you exactly what we mean.

I silvered that challenge a couple times, close but not quite fast enough to make gold. I decided to try the handbrake to see if it would help avoid the understeer, and got gold, first try, by a considerable margin. Later, I went back to other license tests I had trouble with and aced them effortlessly, again using the handbrake to help alleviate understeer.

Other than remembering to turn off the TCS, the handbrake is the easiest trick to getting gold on many of the challenges in the game. As I said before, if you don't believe it and have some gold trophies waiting to be earned, go try it yourself and see if it helps.


Maybe the way the guy with the top laptime replay is using it, but the handbrake continues to be useful even mid-corner, long after you should be braking. It's an instant and universal fix for little to no loss in speed.
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Can you explain to me how this works. I could really use some help with B5. I am always at least a few hundredths off the gold time and usually more. I'm not sure how this handbrake method works.

I have a Fanatec GT3RS wheel. If my intuition is correct then I'd find out which button is for the ebrake (or map one myself) then give this button a brief tap somewhere around mid-corner? Is this correct? Is it one brief tap only or a few taps?

Before anyone has a caniption, I'm from Canada so am excluded from the GT Academy. I'm just looking for an edge on those hairpin license tests.
 
Not trying to fuel the fire for anyone.. But is this the type of video you're looking for?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq-PB54s4cc

Tsuchiya can be seen using the e-brake to help eliminate understeer on a circuit track with a normal car (Spoon CR-Z). I've never seen the e-brake used on a race car around the track though...

And it actually does help speed up the lap by helping the car rotate better - instead of just encountering understeer (much like Naoki Hattori (?) experiences in the Civic Type-R Euro who does not use the e-brake... Mind you, they are two different cars).
 
I first saw some VVV guys using the handbrake to super heat the rear tyres and thus pulling better lap times (> 1 sec faster) in Forza 2. Same was possible in Shift. And now GT5? Well it's a glitch. À common one it seems.
 
timeatkuu
Not trying to fuel the fire for anyone.. But is this the type of video you're looking for?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mq-PB54s4cc

Tsuchiya can be seen using the e-brake to help eliminate understeer on a circuit track with a normal car (Spoon CR-Z). I've never seen the e-brake used on a race car around the track though...

And it actually does help speed up the lap by helping the car rotate better - instead of just encountering understeer (much like Naoki Hattori (?) experiences in the Civic Type-R Euro who does not use the e-brake... Mind you, they are two different cars).
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Anyone even NOTICE (let alone care) that I DID say 'in a GT-R'?

The tricks that can be used in small, low powered cars aren't the same as tricks in high powered ones. PLEASE, just show me a lap in a GT-R where the driver is grabbing for the e-brake even ONCE, let alone all the time.
 
Destinkeys
Anyone even NOTICE (let alone care) that I DID say 'in a GT-R'?

The tricks that can be used in small, low powered cars aren't the same as tricks in high powered ones. PLEASE, just show me a lap in a GT-R where the driver is grabbing for the e-brake even ONCE, let alone all the time.
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You aren't going to find said video. Not for an AWD car on a race track, unless its drifting. You do realize people are doing this in rear and front drive cars, and thats where this discussion is from. But good job trying to change it from "no one ever would do it" to "well ... not in a GT-R anyway".

Also realize that the race car for the Playstation team is a rear drive 370Z, not a GTR. They use a GT-R at one point in the competition, but in the end a 370Z is used for GT4 and the 24 hours of Dubai.
 

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