GT Academy or DLC?

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Do you choose...

  • I love GT academy, good work PD, thank you!

    Votes: 39 24.8%
  • Patch please

    Votes: 23 14.6%
  • DLC don't care about anything else

    Votes: 78 49.7%
  • DLC? Patch? GT what? GT5 1.0 is the best!

    Votes: 4 2.5%
  • Non from above..

    Votes: 13 8.3%

  • Total voters
    157
I voted for the DLC because I can't win the GT Academy since I don't have a driving license and I'm not fast enough in any case.:sly:
 
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Agreed. I've voted for DLC as well, I was never really a fast racer when it comes to events like GT Academy. DLC and update please and thank you.
 
I voted for the DLC because I can't win the GT Academy since I don't have a driving license and I'm not fast enough in any case.:sly:

I didn't think you actualy had to hold a driving licence to be a race driver? You only need a racing licence which, naturaly would be part of the Academy training.
 
I didn't think you actualy had to hold a driving licence to be a race driver? You only need a racing licence which, naturaly would be part of the Academy training.

You don't need a driving licence to be a race driver but it was one of the rules for GT Academy before.
 
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I didn't think you actualy had to hold a driving licence to be a race driver? You only need a racing licence which, naturaly would be part of the Academy training.

You are correct. Driving license doesn't come into it.
It may be a prerequisite for the academy though. They are entitled to set there own parameters.
It would be interesting to know.
 
Stupid Thread. Needs to be closed. It's just an excuse to complain.

If a moderator thinks it needs closing they'll close it. If you don't like this thread then don't post here, it's that simple.
 
If a moderator thinks it needs closing they'll close it. If you don't like this thread then don't post here, it's that simple.

I'll post where I like thank you.

Threads like these get closed as wars between users start.

As I said it's my opinion.

I for one appreciate anything Polyphony Digital give us. GT Academy is a massive thing for PD/Kaz/Sony. I fully support their notions on them providing a seperate Download Based Application for us all to take part in. Alot of GT Users don't even care that this is coming around again and it's a real shame and instead they choose to complain about the fact theres no DLC. Thats what I believe is a real shame. Ignorance is bliiss for some but I for one will happily wait till the next DLC Lot to come around without moaning in the Forums. These threads create nothing but trivial wish list threads and wars between forum users.
 
I'll post where I like thank you.

Threads like these get closed as wars between users start.

As I said it's my opinion.

I for one appreciate anything Polyphony Digital give us. GT Academy is a massive thing for PD/Kaz/Sony. I fully support their notions on them providing a seperate Download Based Application for us all to take part in. Alot of GT Users don't even care that this is coming around again and it's a real shame and instead they choose to complain about the fact theres no DLC. Thats what I believe is a real shame. Ignorance is bliiss for some but I for one will happily wait till the next DLC Lot to come around without moaning in the Forums. These threads create nothing but trivial wish list threads and wars between forum users.

Wars that couldn't and wouldn't start if people didn't call other people or other people's posts/threads stupid,etc or post with an aggressive tone like you have just done.

If you had just posted the part in bold in the first place they would be no issues. Insults and complaining about complaining just isn't necessary. Just ignore the "wish lists" and other stuff and report it if you want to and let the moderators deal with it, it's their job afterall.:)
 
I'll post where I like thank you.

Threads like these get closed as wars between users start.

As I said it's my opinion.

I for one appreciate anything Polyphony Digital give us. GT Academy is a massive thing for PD/Kaz/Sony. I fully support their notions on them providing a seperate Download Based Application for us all to take part in. Alot of GT Users don't even care that this is coming around again and it's a real shame and instead they choose to complain about the fact theres no DLC. Thats what I believe is a real shame. Ignorance is bliiss for some but I for one will happily wait till the next DLC Lot to come around without moaning in the Forums. These threads create nothing but trivial wish list threads and wars between forum users.

I'm not going to moan about lack of DLC because frankly unless the DLC is something huge I wouldn't buy it anyway, whenever it's released. However what you have to realise is that for 95% of GT5 players GT Academy is of no use. We know we're not fast enough to actually win it and the truly fast guys know who they are. So for the vast majority unless they just want to beat their friends times or something there is very little point in it.

So again whilst I'm not personally moaning you have to see it from their point of view. DLC has the potential to be useful to 100% of players, GT Academy is only ever going to really suit the fastest guys playing the game.
 
I'm not going to moan about lack of DLC because frankly unless the DLC is something huge I wouldn't buy it anyway, whenever it's released. However what you have to realise is that for 95% of GT5 players GT Academy is of no use. We know we're not fast enough to actually win it and the truly fast guys know who they are. So for the vast majority unless they just want to beat their friends times or something there is very little point in it.

So again whilst I'm not personally moaning you have to see it from their point of view. DLC has the potential to be useful to 100% of players, GT Academy is only ever going to really suit the fastest guys playing the game.

Well if this part is true from GTPlanet News, then I think it could benefit a lot more people.

"The announcement also confirms that “rewards” or “gifts” earned in the GT Academy 2012 game can be transferred for use Gran Turismo 5."

Also, it is not like the work that goes into GT Academy is a waste either, it is further developing GT5's current base for future patches / games and potentially adding extra content to the series. That will benefit all the players of GT in the near future.


PD are a very efficient development team and do listen to their fans, the problem for them is the route to expand its current team might be capped by Sony at the moment so that PD remains highly profitable to cover their losses for initial hardware costs and other games / departments. Hopefully in the near future Sony can turn around its current financial position, meanwhile also letting developers like PD use more of their profits to develop their games. Then DLC output and also quality of games PD produce will be greatly increased.

GT Academy should help PD in the long term as it attracts gamers from every other racing game to compete in it and gets GT more and more global recognition. Meanwhile DLC content being produced will largely be unaffected by the GT Academy release as the same number of people will still be modelling content that can be used in GT5. It is a win-win situation, a chance to become a racing driver with very little investment and also improvements to GT. I have yet to buy any DLC so will be good if you can get the content as rewards through participating in GT Academy 👍.
 
No real option on the poll for me because although I would prefer DLC the most (Australia not included in the GT Academy 2012 itself), I do care for other GT related things..

Voted anyway.
 
Well if this part is true from GTPlanet News, then I think it could benefit a lot more people.

"The announcement also confirms that “rewards” or “gifts” earned in the GT Academy 2012 game can be transferred for use Gran Turismo 5."

Yeah but are you expecting those gifts to be anything significant or worthwhile? I'm not.


PD are a very efficient development team

Did you just type that with a straight face? :lol:
 
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Yeah but are you expecting those gifts to be anything significant or worthwhile? I'm not.
Well first thing I am looking forward to is trying to make it to the UK national finals for the first time. The gifts and prizes might be previous DLC packs or potentially new ones, hopefully Silverstone has been modelled. Any content for free is always welcome as I will be participating for the fun of it anyware.

Did you just say type that with a straight face? :lol:
Yes, it is all in the context. PD make use of their resources and knowledge of previous games into their new ones. Given the number of people that actually work at PD and how they are quite stretched in development such as creating on different platforms at the same time such as the PSP and in the future PS Vita, it is quite remarkable PD are being compared to a development team that works on a single platform with three to potentially four times the size of PD's team and expecting PD to beat or match them in terms of DLC output and if they don't they are lazy or don't listen to their fans or are slow.

A quick question, can you name a game that has as many cars as GT5 with full interior modelled on the PS3 or PC out the box? I expect GT6 to be a more focussed game as they have finished making the large core parts of the game through development of GT5 and if PD can expand to half of its rival, expect PD to deliver a solid GT6 game. Hopefully Sony let them expand so they can compete, if not I will not be surprised to see more negative comments towards PD and the majority being quite unjust. PD employees are not superhuman, they work probably much harder than your average game development team employees but are expected to achieve unrealistic targets per person by fans who don't know the real situation.

Please tell me you're joking.

I am not joking :).
 
Well first thing I am looking forward to is trying to make it to the UK national finals for the first time. The gifts and prizes might be previous DLC packs or potentially new ones, hopefully Silverstone has been modelled. Any content for free is always welcome as I will be participating for the fun of it anyware.

They're not going to give away any substancial DLC for free, they didn't even give paint chips away for free.


A quick question, can you name a game that has as many cars as GT5 with full interior modelled on the PS3 or PC out the box?

I see you conveniently left out the 360 in that question, any reason in particular? But even if you do can you name a game on the PS3 or PC that took over 5 years to develop? PD are not efficient developers, not at all. They spent all of that time modelling the leather stitching on the interiors of the premium cars whilst leaving 800 other cars with no interior at all and a half assed single player game. Their priorities were completely wrong.
 
Well if this part is true from GTPlanet News, then I think it could benefit a lot more people.

"The announcement also confirms that “rewards” or “gifts” earned in the GT Academy 2012 game can be transferred for use Gran Turismo 5."

Also, it is not like the work that goes into GT Academy is a waste either, it is further developing GT5's current base for future patches / games and potentially adding extra content to the series. That will benefit all the players of GT in the near future.


PD are a very efficient development team and do listen to their fans, the problem for them is the route to expand its current team might be capped by Sony at the moment so that PD remains highly profitable to cover their losses for initial hardware costs and other games / departments. Hopefully in the near future Sony can turn around its current financial position, meanwhile also letting developers like PD use more of their profits to develop their games. Then DLC output and also quality of games PD produce will be greatly increased.

GT Academy should help PD in the long term as it attracts gamers from every other racing game to compete in it and gets GT more and more global recognition. Meanwhile DLC content being produced will largely be unaffected by the GT Academy release as the same number of people will still be modelling content that can be used in GT5. It is a win-win situation, a chance to become a racing driver with very little investment and also improvements to GT. I have yet to buy any DLC so will be good if you can get the content as rewards through participating in GT Academy 👍.
Some people only look at the small picture and think the flaws within GT5 sum up how much work they've done. If GT5 didn't have Weather and Time Change, I'd be questioning their efficiency. Considering outsourcing isn't Kaz's way of doing things, I think PD has created a marvel of a game on the PS3, especially from a programming standpoint.


Well first thing I am looking forward to is trying to make it to the UK national finals for the first time. The gifts and prizes might be previous DLC packs or potentially new ones, hopefully Silverstone has been modelled. Any content for free is always welcome as I will be participating for the fun of it anyware.


Yes, it is all in the context. PD make use of their resources and knowledge of previous games into their new ones. Given the number of people that actually work at PD and how they are quite stretched in development such as creating on different platforms at the same time such as the PSP and in the future PS Vita, it is quite remarkable PD are being compared to a development team that works on a single platform with three to potentially four times the size of PD's team and expecting PD to beat or match them in terms of DLC output and if they don't they are lazy or don't listen to their fans or are slow.

A quick question, can you name a game that has as many cars as GT5 with full interior modelled on the PS3 or PC out the box? I expect GT6 to be a more focussed game as they have finished making the large core parts of the game through development of GT5 and if PD can expand to half of its rival, expect PD to deliver a solid GT6 game. Hopefully Sony let them expand so they can compete, if not I will not be surprised to see more negative comments towards PD and the majority being quite unjust. PD employees are not superhuman, they work probably much harder than your average game development team employees but are expected to achieve unrealistic targets per person by fans who don't know the real situation.



I am not joking :).
Oh, they have no idea.
 
Oh, they have no idea.

But you do of course. :rolleyes:

GT5 has time and weather, yes, but only on a handful of tracks. That doesn't take 5 years of work. Just look at Project CARS, they're in BETA/ALPHA less than a year into development and they have a 24 hour light cycle on EVERY track, weather to follow.
 
They're not going to give away any substancial DLC for free, they didn't even give paint chips away for free.
Well they are giving the potential of winning a race drive for free, and have added through patches quite a few cars for free already. Giving away previous / new DLC content as prizes is not a far stretched idea as they have given away a free SLS as a prize before, tickets to an F1 race and what have you in other competitions. There are not that many DLC packs they have released, the lowest they will go is giving away a free in-game car or maybe a free paint chip :lol:. I think if it is not substantial, maybe it will just be the GT Academy cars realistically.

I see you conveniently left out the 360 in that question, any reason in particular? But even if you do can you name a game on the PS3 or PC that took over 5 years to develop? PD are not efficient developers, not at all. They spent all of that time modelling the leather stitching on the interiors of the premium cars whilst leaving 800 other cars with no interior at all and a half assed single player game. Their priorities were completely wrong.
Well only one game on 360 has more fully modelled interior cars on that platform and that is Forza 4. Considering they have more people working on car modelling on that game than, the entire PD workforce, it is not a huge achievement is it? The amount of people who worked on Forza 1 since 2001 is similar to the amount of people who worked on GT5 so you can see why PD will struggle to compete with them as out of all Sony and Microsoft's first party studios, Turn 10 have the most resources out of them all though.

Games like TDU2, rFactor 2, iRacing, GTR 3, Assetto Corsa do not have the same number of cars out the box as GT5 has in terms of premium cars numbers but they most likely spent just as many years getting to the stage they have. PD do not have much more employees than these companies too. I don't hear unrealistic demands or huge complaints directed to these developers, that they are slow for not delivering say 1000 cars with basic modelled interiors which is the expectation of PD in the same time frame. Simple reason being it is unrealistic. PD could have scrapped all the standard cars with only say a handful more premium cars, maybe if they did that, people would not expect unrealistic content from them.

Efficiency is measured also in terms of long term. Would you prefer PD to make say about 500 cars with less detail, that they have to remodel from scratch a couple years later or build for the future while releasing the most number of cars of any game at that standard. I think their priorities are correct and are thinking of long term and making use of their development resources as best as possible. I mean they would be completely be destroyed on the next-gen consoles as they will probably have only released say 100 cars if they followed your development plan idea instead of now potentially 400 in the same time frame. They might also have wasted even more resources on a legacy core platform if they stuck with say the GT4 base and online code and built on that for GT5 just to make GT5 a better game in the short term. Sure GT5 might have been a more fun game but the GT series would have paid a heavy price for future games due to the poor use of resources that you suggest and have taken a 5 year step backwards compared to where they are now. The situation of GT5 would have been what GT7 would be if they stuck to developing legacy assets, but now we can look forward to a solid, focussed GT6 and GT7.


But you do of course. :rolleyes:

GT5 has time and weather, yes, but only on a handful of tracks. That doesn't take 5 years of work. Just look at Project CARS, they're in BETA/ALPHA less than a year into development and they have a 24 hour light cycle on EVERY track, weather to follow.

That is quite a high level of ignorance shown there. Project CARS is based on an engine that has been developed for the last 5 years at least. If you are going to backdate GT5's engine to when it first started being created, why show double standards towards other games. Project CARS also will not be running at 60FPS on consoles, this is a criteria PD have to try their best to meet. Sure PD could update GT5 with weather and night now on all tracks without any further optimization towards the GT platform if they wanted to, but that will be quite a big sacrifice for a driving sim on a console due to the frame rate hit.
 
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DLC FTW. But seriously, if GT Academy was world wide (and not just limited to USA and Europe) then I'd be okay with it. I understand that there's a reason for PD and Nissan not going into lots of countries but I still feel a little disappointed.
 
I personally dont care much for the GTacademy, I would hope that it can run without much imput from PD but I doubt thats the case. If PD stopped supporting DLC for GT5 because they were too busy making GT6 then I'm ok with that, but for GT-A then I'm not pleased. PD stick to making games and concentrate on what your good at, put more money into staff and resources instead of shipping Kaz around the world and racing or doing judging a SEMA act like you make games and get to it.

If they don't then more and more people will be fed up with what is dished out and they will look more like EA and less like great developers.
 
I personally dont care much for the GTacademy, I would hope that it can run without much imput from PD but I doubt thats the case. If PD stopped supporting DLC for GT5 because they were too busy making GT6 then I'm ok with that, but for GT-A then I'm not pleased. PD stick to making games and concentrate on what your good at, put more money into staff and resources instead of shipping Kaz around the world and racing or doing judging a SEMA act like you make games and get to it.

If they don't then more and more people will be fed up with what is dished out and they will look more like EA and less like great developers.
It's not the case any longer as we can see with this GT Academy.


In some ways, I hope so. The obvious people I won't ever have to see again is my point.
 
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I see you conveniently left out the 360 in that question, any reason in particular? But even if you do can you name a game on the PS3 or PC that took over 5 years to develop? PD are not efficient developers, not at all. They spent all of that time modelling the leather stitching on the interiors of the premium cars whilst leaving 800 other cars with no interior at all and a half assed single player game. Their priorities were completely wrong.

I see people are still pretending that 'Tourist Trophy', 'GT5:P' and 'GT:PSP' never happened so they can claim PD spent 5 years working only on GT5. :odd:
 
I see people are still pretending that 'Tourist Trophy', 'GT5:P' and 'GT:PSP' never happened so they can claim PD spent 5 years working only on GT5. :odd:
Plus, they even had the COURTESY, not obligation which some people said PD are obligated in updating GT5, to update the "demo" GT5P.
 
I am actually interested about this GT Academy. I want to see if there is any new features we will see that will come on GT5 or roll over to GT6. I would want DLC but I want to see what this GT Academy has to offer.
 
Exactly! GT Academy in May, DLC in june/july :D

This is part of the reason I created this thread not another wihlist, not another bash, discussion post. I made it mainly to know what do users prefer, according to their locations or wathever reason they have.

If you could choose wich one would you prefer. That why i made this post....
If someone has been hurt as a result of this thread, sorry. Not intended.
 
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