GT fans and Forza fans unite!!!!

[Corpsey]

The only thing that really bothers me about RUF brand in GT5 is that they're all standard.. they couldn't throw at least one that we can feel good about going into photomode with

Still though if you haven't driven the RUFs go do it.. they're a lot of fun.

I wonder why Porsche chose to be uncooperative :\

 

[ZeGermanBastorD]

It's EA's decision & nor you, Sony or Turn10 can do anything against it.

I personally don't get it why Porsche is that stupid to sell a exclusive license, maybe the same reason like the GT5/Logitech G25/G27 desaster, $$$ a truck load of money $$$.

Maybe Porsche have learned their lession and once the license ends they are not going to sell a exclusive license again. Let's pray. 👍

It would be that easy, if EA is not completely retarded*. PokerStyle: stick all in a room, lock the door & some hours later everyone is happy.

*but it looks like they are (no surprise)

 

[mavidatt]

"Porsche loves to claim it's the winningest carmaker in history. But that's a lie. Most people now race in video games."

okayyy...

ha ha, exactly, and what better way to advertise your cars than in videogames. and well i guess if u do like the nd4spd games i still dont think they r the game i would be wanting my my car in, compared to the better sim racing console games out there such as gt and forza. in my opinion its a huge loss for porsche and a huge loss for ea as well and is only hurting their rep by not letting other games use porsche.

i mean what r they thinking that i am going to buy theyre games over say forza and gran turismo cause they r the only game with porsche now? i mean common, that is a load of crap, it shows that they cannont sell theyre game based on confidence that they put in the effort to make a solid quality racer. so instead they r like hey dont buy our game cause u like it, buy it cause we r the only one with porsche now and if u ever wanna drive porsche then u r going to have to buy this game.

ea stands for evil + animals - nimals + ss's

 

[mavidatt]

Yea but gt never had it to start -_- Forza did ..
So Again Sucks for Forza -_-

hey everybody to theyre own on the gt vs forza thing for now, i am for both games, owned both games and want porsche in BOTH GAMES. shame on ea and on porsche as well for giving them the exlusive licensing.

 

[HumanDestroyah]

I can't say that I quite follow the Forza joke, unless you're trying to belittle the franchise with the "small dog" reference. If that's the case, I need to point out that while GT still outsells FM, FM is still the best racing franchise of the generation, and since Turn 10 manages to churn them out every two years with more improvements than PD makes for GT in more than twice the time, Forza is rapidly pulling ahead of GT.



And already sucked for GT. Now neither franchise has Porsches.

Not belittling the franchise at all, I think Forza is a great game. I regret selling off my Xbox because I had a blast playing that in my off time.

From the expression: "to kick the dog."

It means when you are frustrated about something instead of dealing with that thing you take your frustration out on a defenseless animal. Which is another way of saying: "You're blaming the wrong person/thing/people."

Nailed it, However I wouldnt harm anything defenseless. That's just taking what I said and analyzing it to the point of it being out of context.


Lastly, it was a joke. Everything's alright people, go back to what you were doing.

 

[McLaren]

http://jalopnik.com/5834368/porsche-doesnt-care-about-video-game-people

Thank you Porsche for preventing me from driving your cars, especially this one.

The guy who wrote that article is an idiot. Dan G. himself said people within' the Porsche circle even talked to EA about changing their mind & EA said no.

 

[SkateNj]

I am more frustrated that Lamborghini is not in Test Drive Unlimited 2. THAT makes me very mad. At least RUF is an alternative for Porsche. There is no alternative for Lamborghini.

i made a lambo alternative! Happy Birthday!

yea but EA and porsche are stupid.
porsche for exclusive licensing
EA is just a douchebag game company.

 

[Dmarc_Atl]

This is Just EA returning the favour to Turn 10 for restricted use of Ferraris in Shift 2. Also you can forget anymore Topgear related fun in GT now as Turn 10 has that locked for their use only

American Top Gear I heard

 

[urunatural]

Pardon my ignorance, what is the "Siena's mentality"?

 

[Bushby_23]

Pardon my ignorance, what is the "Siena's mentality"?

There was supposed to be a kart track in sienna on the game. It got removed however because they sienna sued pd.

 

[SkateNj]

i find it stupid how they sued them. Why not have your city advertised?

 

[Spagetti69]

With both SPA and Bathurst in an EA game, do you think both GT/Forza will never get those tracks too?

Someone should buy the rights to the wheel and not let anyone use it.

 

[Bushby_23]

With both SPA and Bathurst in an EA game, do you think both GT/Forza will never get those tracks too?

Someone should buy the rights to the wheel and not let anyone use it.

Shame then that you forgot about f1 2011 having spa (although I think this is due to a f1 agreement, not so much an agreement with the track)

 

[noisiaturismo]

I am more frustrated that Lamborghini is not in Test Drive Unlimited 2. THAT makes me very mad. At least RUF is an alternative for Porsche. There is no alternative for Lamborghini.

Audi R8

 

[Spagetti69]

Shame then that you forgot about f1 2011 having spa (although I think this is due to a f1 agreement, not so much an agreement with the track)

So SPA is free to be used in Forza/GT then. That's good.

 

[GrandGTM]

I think EA could take a page from T10s book and share the license with other developers, just like T10 did with the Ferrari license which they were the exclusive holders to.

Around the world many different racing games are enjoyed by many fans and gamers, it's a matter of personal taste and preference. But for EA to think that people would buy their games instead of others just because they have Porsches in them, well they might be after a select few.

I love Porsche, most of the cars I have in my Portfolio are Porsches including the 911 GT2RS (2011) and the legendary Carrera GT. I would love nothing more than to see them in a GT series game. I think Porsche should reconsider their EA license deal because it's just been way too long and fans deserve the chance to drive these cars in different games like Forza AND GT series. I know they have been enjoyed in Forza 3, but all the more reason for Porsche to finally break free of Evil Arts...sorry I meant Electronic Arts.

 

[urunatural]

thanks Bushby_23

 

[PirateThom]

I can understand exclusive deals and why EA want to lock down Porsche, they exist to make a game more attractive, especially in an ever changing market like the racing genre, especially for Shift as it's not seen as a real contender to GT on PS or Forza on Xbox... but there's much better ways to do it, instead of blocking a whole manufacturer from other games, why not licence specific cars to Turn 10 and PD and keep the lion share themselves? That way, they can make a little side cash from two guranteed selling games, still have the licence for their own game and, more importantly, not alienate players of both franchises. This doesn't give me any incentive to pick up Shift, but I could be tempted by an 'EA presents Porsche' DLC for GT5.

Problem is, neither Microsoft or Sony will ever say anything to EA apart from casual 'are you sure?' comments, because they're never going to threaten EA by pulling their games off their systems, EA have too much sway in the industry due to sales of Madden and FIFA.

 

[Tenacious D]

Don't you think it's odd that MS has the exclusive Ferrari license on the 360 and suddenly Shift 2 doesn't have Ferrari's? Microsoft probably blocked Ferrari so EA blocked back.

This is Just EA returning the favour to Turn 10 for restricted use of Ferraris in Shift 2. Also you can forget anymore Topgear related fun in GT now as Turn 10 has that locked for their use only

This is what happens when you let a monopoly (MS) and a wannabe monopoly (EA) get into the gaming biz. Gamers suffer. Maybe not so much, if you actually like Shift (not me) or Forza (like/hate) and don't mind paying your tribute to these yahoos.

When SONY destroyed the SEGA Saturn and Dreamcast, I hated them for a couple of years and refused to have anything to do with the Playstations - still have all of five PS1 games, never did care for the library overall. But with the PS2, I found it impossible to ignore games like Gran Turismo, Metal Gear Solid, Devil May Cry, Ratchet & Clank, Tekken and many others. The quality and sheer fun of these games won me over, something which the XBox and 360 failed to do (five XBox games - mostly SEGA, two Forzas on 360). It's the same with EA. I can't get enough of the Battlefield series - the realistic ones anyway, but the rest of the library can rot in hell for all I care.

I guess this is my way of protesting, and it's pretty easy when both MS and EA family products just don't measure up to the SONY developers and theirs. I know the world will pretty much just cave to these two monsters without half a thought as to why it's bad for everyone. But just think of a day in which you want to play a racing game, and your only two choices are NFS or Forza, outside of some dry, uninspiring PC sim.

 

[Lambob]

Gamers across the world: Porche not in my game grumble grumble
EA CEOs and Beancounters: Time to increase data cluster to handle junk emails!
Porsche family: What's a videogame? (Sells $$$$ in real cars yearly)

 

[SeaWall]

neeevaaaaaaaaaa

 

[mykem]

I think EA could take a page from T10s book and share the license with other developers, just like T10 did with the Ferrari license which they were the exclusive holders to.

T10 doesn't hold an exclusive Ferrari license. And while the actual license holder is Microsoft (not Turn 10), it's exclusivity pertains only to the Xbox. SCE (Sony) owns the exclusive right for Playstation and you can read the license in the game (GT5) which reads like this:

Produced under license of Ferrari Spa. FERRARI, the PRANCING HORSE device, all associated logos and distinctive designs
are trademarks of Ferrari Spa. The body designs of the Ferrari cars are protected as Ferrari property under design,
trademark and trade dress regulations.​

Believe me when I say that MS has proven in the past be just as possessive as EA. Here's my take on this latest fiasco: I'm guessing what's happened is that EA had wanted the Ferrari licensing concurrent with SHIFT2 release date as oppose to how the Ferrari DLC was released with the first SHIFT (on the 360)- which was after the release of Forza 3 (SHIFT came out 2 months prior to Forza 3). MS wanted the same deal as before despite the bigger gap between the release of SHIFT2 and FM4 which had totally pissed EA off and hence no deal was struck.

Hopefully from all this EA will say FU MS and strike a deal with Sony and Porsche will at last appear in GT where it actually belongs.

 

[HKS racer]

i find it stupid how they sued them. Why not have your city advertised?

Because they are from Siena A freakin small city with old mediaval tradictions, horse races, closed mentality and lot of arrogance.

 

[exiledfrenchy]

Because they are from Siena A freakin small city with old mediaval tradictions, horse races, closed mentality and lot of arrogance.

i find it stupid how they sued them. Why not have your city advertised?

Sorry, big post:

@ HKS racer: Even though your comment is a bit too spitefull for my taste, you're right on the core of the matter.

@ SkateNj: Siena is a city that is very (and by that I mean sincerely) protective of their heritage. The kart race was supposed to take place on the square where the Palio usually takes place. That's a big horse race around the square, where every part of the city enters one horse and one rider under its flag. The winner is the big hero and the winning bourough is king. Problem is, they HATE tourists. They consider it their own thing, their tradition, and no one is allowed to disturb their fun and joy in the race. Problem is, just being there disturbs them. I've been there on race day to have a look at the race, and as I could'nt get a place on the square I tried to watch it from a TV inside a shop window. The result was that I was shunted aside by a little old lady and her 20 year old son (who was half as big as I am), insulting me and telling me to go away as I have no right to watch and take their place because I'm just a dumb stupid tourist.
Now imagine how many people made a huge fuss because a video game wanted to simulate a kart race on their sacred "Piazza del Palio". The poor mayor just wanted to advertise the city and its traditional flags for the bouroughs, but the lobby probably was just too strong.

OT: I think the discussion is futile to be honest. Sure I'd love to have Porsches in GT, but for now it's not going to happen. Just as in real life: no cash, no deal (and no Porsche). If PD/Sony had offered enough cash to anyone who owns the rights, they would have gotten them. That easy. But as you can imagine how much money they already spent on the Ferrari licence, and all the restrictions they have to go through (no Ferrari F1 can lose to anything other then a Ferrari F1, mostly one make races so no Ferrari loses to some weird japanese stuff and so on), it would have been too risky to go through the same crap with Porsche, even more so through a sub-licence.

 

[dbarrade]

If Sony / Polyphony did manage to sub-licence Porsche do you think they would make DLC or wait for GT6?

 

[ZeGermanBastorD]

@ SkateNj: Siena is a city that is very (and by that I mean sincerely) protective of their heritage. The kart race was supposed to take place on the square where the Palio usually takes place. That's a big horse race around the square, where every part of the city enters one horse and one rider under its flag. The winner is the big hero and the winning bourough is king. Problem is, they HATE tourists. They consider it their own thing, their tradition, and no one is allowed to disturb their fun and joy in the race. Problem is, just being there disturbs them. I've been there on race day to have a look at the race, and as I could'nt get a place on the square I tried to watch it from a TV inside a shop window. The result was that I was shunted aside by a little old lady and her 20 year old son (who was half as big as I am), insulting me and telling me to go away as I have no right to watch and take their place because I'm just a dumb stupid tourist.
Now imagine how many people made a huge fuss because a video game wanted to simulate a kart race on their sacred "Piazza del Palio". The poor mayor just wanted to advertise the city and its traditional flags for the bouroughs, but the lobby probably was just too strong.

Roflmao, it's like in the darkest dark age.

Where they armed with pitchforks?

i find it stupid how they sued them. Why not have your city advertised?

Btw. who sued who & for what?

 

[Bushby_23]

So SPA is free to be used in Forza/GT then. That's good.

That's not what you were saying in your post I responded to. You were asking whether ea would allow other racers to use spa, so I said its in f1 2011. It had nothing to do whether it would cost anyrhing or not.

 

[Stephen220378]

EA pay good money to have Porsche exclusive to their Need for Speed series and the Pagani Huayra, they also pay good money for an exclusive English Premier League licence for their FIFA games, and to the NFL for their Madden games and the PGA for the Tiger Woods series. You pay for what you get, so if anything I'd be complaining to Sony who are a much bigger company than Electronic Arts and asking them why they're not paying out the money to obtain these exclusive licences. Blaming EA is just plain stupid.

 

[savage388]

EA pay good money to have Porsche exclusive to their Need for Speed series and the Pagani Huayra, they also pay good money for an exclusive English Premier League licence for their FIFA games, and to the NFL for their Madden games and the PGA for the Tiger Woods series. You pay for what you get, so if anything I'd be complaining to Sony who are a much bigger company than Electronic Arts and asking them why they're not paying out the money to obtain these exclusive licences. Blaming EA is just plain stupid.

It'd not Sony that would buy the license it's pd and last time I checked pd was smaller than ea. That's why they can't get any of the decent licenses. Well that and kaz's obsession with having every skyline and miata ever made.

 

[mykem]

It'd not Sony that would buy the license it's pd and last time I checked pd was smaller than ea. That's why they can't get any of the decent licenses. Well that and kaz's obsession with having every skyline and miata ever made.

It would actually be SCE (Sony Computer Entertainment) not PD that acquires the license. Why? Because PD has always been a first party developer for Playstation, both of which are own by Sony (who owns Gran Turismo as well). The same goes for Turn 10 in that it's Microsoft that deals with licensing. The fact that EA holds the Porsche license (not Slightly Mad Studios or Criterion who were/are the NFS developers) explains that it's the parent companies that are in charge of obtaining licenses since they're the proprietor of the games.