GT League is a pathetic, rubber-banding mess

[Boedefeld]

It’s a joke that GT league was added so late and even more of a joke that NOTHING has been fixed about it.

I’ve tuned up my 458 as far as it can go and reduced the weight all the way, still the can catch up 5 seconds in no time when they want to.
The other cars are built like absolute tanks and get boosts whenever the game wants to ruin your day. Hell, once you overtake a car you build up a 3-4 second lead in a few corners before the game decides to **** you again. This mode is absolute zero fun and has no replayability whatsoever. The other cars deciding to just punt you off or divebomb so you go into the grass or gravel is even funnier. It’s not enough that you’re forced to race on sports tyres which are basically butter and have no grip at all, the AI apparently can switch tyres every corner when they feel like it.

The race above was the last time I’ve played this laughable mode and will now wait until PD decides to give us acceptable Daily Races again, which can sometimes take 2-3 weeks.

Oh where are the glory days from GT 2-4.

Rant over

 

[daan]

That's the worst display of driving I've ever seen. GTS' AI will increase power just as you do, and they can't handle it either. Detune it a bit and you'll get on better.

And GT2 had the worst rubber banding ever.

 

[Boedefeld]

Lmao, this game can’t even handle their own stupid boost and rubber-banding system. I love it when the AI suddenly gets a 50 km/h increase and doesn’t know how to handle it

Screw GT League

 

[CarreransxGT]

Well, I don't want to sound rude but your driving sucks. You don't even use manual transmission. So, don't be surprised that you are losing..

 

[Rivixter]

Yeah you just have to stick with it and get better, I find gt league a bit easy sometimes if I boost my car.

 

[CarreransxGT]

Lmao, this game can’t even handle their own stupid boost and rubber-banding system. I love it when the AI suddenly gets a 50 km/h increase and doesn’t know how to handle it

Screw GT League

That's a 950HP laferrari..

 

[JayOTT]

This rubberband problem is why I've always dreamed of a Polyphony and Codemasters team-up. The AI is often a challenge for players of all levels in CM games. PD really needs to step up their game if they insist on programming AI racers themselves.

 

[Boedefeld]

Well, I don't want to sound rude but your driving sucks. You don't even use manual transmission. So, don't be surprised that you are losing..

Sure buddy, I’m a A/S driver with 90+ wins, I was driving with a controller to enjoy the evening. Go check out my kudosprime if you want. MojoMoley

Yeah you just have to stick with it and get better, I find gt league a bit easy sometimes if I boost my car.

I have no problem with being better. I have a problem with a stupid boost and rubber-banding system. And my 458 couldn’t be more tuned at that point. Maxed out

That's a 950HP laferrari..

Which even gains on me in corners when I’m driving a Group 3 car. It’s just lazy scripting from PD. Oh, and can brake with me at the same time and still come out ahead when I’m in a Gr.3 car lmao

 

[Grandea GTR]

I don't even know what to say about this but what even was that first turn?

 

[CarreransxGT]

Sure buddy, I’m a A/S driver with 90+ wins, I was driving with a controller to enjoy the evening. Go check out my kudosprime if you want. MojoMoley



I have no problem with being better. I have a problem with a stupid boost and rubber-banding system. And my 458 couldn’t be more tuned at that point. Maxed out



Which even gains on me in corners when I’m driving a Group 3 car. It’s just lazy scripting from PD. Oh, and can brake with me at the same time and still come out ahead when I’m in a Gr.3 car lmao

If you are A/S driver with 90 wins then it shouldn't be a problem for you to win these easy races. Maybe if you weren't so lazy and used manual you would win. It's completely your fault that you lost, GT league races are too easy.

 

[ARTAsean]

GT Sports GT League is no different than any other GT single player. You take first place roughly halfway through the race and it's all over after that.

The only difference is with GT League, if you mess up, you'll lose 1st because rubber banding keeps 2nd place not far behind you

The obvious solution is: don't mess up...

Yeah, there were a couple professional league events I had to retry because I threw it away on the last lap. But, if you're consistently losing in GT League, you've no one to blame but yourself.

 

[TS050]

You can’t drive.

 

[DJShadesUK]

Maybe if you weren't so lazy and used manual

I use auto, purely because I find it messes with my steadiness with stick inputs on a controller (sadly I don't have space for a wheel setup, otherwise I'd be using manual).

I have 321 Sport Mode wins. Am I lazy?

 

[Boedefeld]

If you are A/S driver with 90 wins then it shouldn't be a problem for you to win these easy races. Maybe if you weren't so lazy and used manual you would win. It's completely your fault that you lost, GT league races are too easy.

You don’t get the point of this post lol. I have no interest in using manual when I’m laying down on my couch half asleep. But sure, keep convincing yourself that I’m a bad driver. Not that GT League absolutely sucks with it’s rubber-banding and boost system

You can’t drive.

Thanks for letting me now! Will try to remember it in my next FIA race against the cream of the crop

 

[TS050]

Thanks for letting me now! Will try to remember it in my next FIA race against the cream of the crop

I’m just telling you as it is. People that know how to drive tend not to continue accelerating through a braking zone.

 

[JayOTT]

I believe GT4 was the only game that didn't have any rubberband shenanigans going on in it's single player, and it MIGHT be a factor in why it's still held up as the gold standard of what a Gran Turismo game should be. GT1-3 had a strong rubberband in sprints and only turned it off in longer races. 5 brought it back, albeit much weaker, and it's still turned off in endurances. 6 combined a strong rubberband with catch the rabbit races and was arguably the worst game in the franchise for it.

Sport's rubberband is weird. It's definitely there, but the strength varies wildly. In custom races and many GT league events it will be weak like in 5, but in some GT league events it'll be as strong as 6 was. I haven't done the endurance league yet so I can't say if the rubberband is still turned off in those, but perhaps that's the biggest argument of all in favour of GT needing much better AI in future titles. I am someone who tends to shy away from online gaming in favour of single player, yet Sport Mode captures most of my attention these days, despite many of the common issues I have still being a thing.

And it's great that PD has created a multiplayer experience that's good enough to convert single player holdouts like myself, but that's no excuse to phone it in with rabbit chase races. Because for every player who ends up enjoying Sport Mode, there are others who still won't for various reasons.

 

[Boedefeld]

I don't even know what to say about this but what even was that first turn?

Ramming the Ferrari on purpose to show that they’re built like tanks and have no problem getting out of the gravel quicker than you. Oh, and because I was pissed of at the rubber-banding

I’m just telling you as it is. People that know how to drive tend not to continue accelerating through a braking zone.

Oh man, if only I knew that before I won 90+ races and am close before DR A+

Can you teach me how to succeed at life?

 

[DodgySyrup]

I find the GT League fairly easy, and only see any "rubber banding" effect if the A.I are very close going into the last few corners of the last lap...then it sometimes feels a bit scripted.

To be honest, no A.I focused races in this game offer a real challenge.

But for me they are there to practice drafting, clean overtakes, improving my etiquette etc...as I usually start from the back unless it's a 3 lap at Tsukuba or something where it's such a short lap and so congested that it's a mess coming through so much traffic in certain cars; in which case I will start 10th or something unless I'm racing in the better suited cars.

 

[McLaren]

By yourself, you're displaying proper turn technique; out-apex-out. Soon as I see you come up on an opponent, you abandon that & dive-bomb the corner....

 

[Loverson]

I believe GT4 was the only game that didn't have any rubberband shenanigans going on in it's single player, and it MIGHT be a factor in why it's still held up as the gold standard of what a Gran Turismo game should be. GT1-3 had a strong rubberband in sprints and only turned it off in longer races. 5 brought it back, albeit much weaker, and it's still turned off in endurances. 6 combined a strong rubberband with catch the rabbit races and was arguably the worst game in the franchise for it.

Sports rubberband is weird. It's definitely there, but the strength varies wildly. In custom races and many GT league events it will be weak like in 5, but in some GT league events it'll be as strong as 6 was. I haven't done the endurance league yet so I can't say if the rubberband is still turned off in those, but perhaps that's the biggest argument of all in favour of GT needing much better AI in future titles. I am someone who tends to shy away from online gaming in favour of single player, yet Sport Mode captures most of my attention these days, despite many of the common issues I have still being a thing.

It varies wildly in GT Sport.
Funny enough it can be a hilarious scramble with the position. Sometimes they put the strongest driver back pack and it's funny how sometimes it decides to shove the other driver due to its absurd boost.
But you won't find any rubber banding AI on events like Premium Lounge, in fact cars like LaFerrari\Veyron\Veneno and One-77 tend to struggle tracks without straight and you can win with even a N200 car on Lago Maggiore.

If you want to see some bad boosting, pick the TT event and pick the Nurb. You'll find a specific driver that has big acceleration and speed but constantly drive off track.

 

[G.T.Ace]

No idea what you're capable of, but in this video, you really don't drive... well.
Also yes, there's a boost, but that boost also affects you. I wish it would be off, because it makes the game much more interesting when it is.
Anyway, the GT League races are boring and easy.

 

[Rinsky]

Not that it matters to anyone. But I have and can still completed every GT league event in gold only using cars 100% stock the exact way they come new from Brand Central (no tuning of any kind) with a DS4 and automatic transmission. Without ramming or forcing the AI out of the way.
So thinking you must use a manual transmission to win is bull crap. Every event can be won with the most basic setups the game allows.

 

[CarreransxGT]

You don’t get the point of this post lol. I have no interest in using manual when I’m laying down on my couch half asleep. But sure, keep convincing yourself that I’m a bad driver. Not that GT League absolutely sucks with it’s rubber-banding and boost system


Thanks for letting me now! Will try to remember it in my next FIA race against the cream of the crop

Dude, when you are laying on your couch half asleep then how do you expect to win that race? Once again, tt's COMPLETELY your fault. GT league races are EXTREMELY easy, and you should have NO PROBLEM winning them. So, please stop texting this nonsense already because you are just embarrassing yourself.

 

[Magog]

As long as you have a competitive car it's almost impossible to lose in single player without making massive mistakes over and over again.

 

[Boedefeld]

Dude, when you are laying on your couch half asleep then how do you expect to win that race? Once again, tt's COMPLETELY your fault. GT league races are EXTREMELY easy, and you should have NO PROBLEM winning them. So, please stop texting this nonsense already because you are just embarrassing yourself.

Why did I win the Lago Maggiore race before that without problem? And the race against all the Lambos before that as well? The rubber-banding is just ****ed up in certain races. The GT League in general is joke but the game sometimes takes it too far.

And dude, if you’d look at the ****ing standings on the left how come the other 458 was leading in front of both La Ferrari’s after 5 laps if the game is so fair? My second video just proves how the game can’t even handle its own ******** and which causes the AI to leave the track in the first place. Unexpected km/h boost but still the same braking point as before.

1vs1 on Rust, whaddayasay?

By yourself, you're displaying proper turn technique; out-apex-out. Soon as I see you come up on an opponent, you abandon that & dive-bomb the corner....

Why would I drive properly against cheating AI drivers

 

[sparkytooth]

Why is that 950hp laferrari faster than my 500hp 458 with lots of aero drag in a straight line? This is impossible.

 

[Sage Ages]

I'm driving an underpowered car like a moron and the AI can catch up to me?!?!? This game is bull 🤬!!!!!1!

 

[sparkytooth]

Not very hard to lose to the AI when you drive slower than them

 

[Boedefeld]

Why is that 950hp laferrari faster than my 500hp 458 with lots of aero drag in a straight line? This is impossible.

1. You still don’t get the point of the post

2. You must be illiterate, as I said multiple times my 458 was fully tuned, so I had 800+hp

3. If the 458 was so slow in the first place, how come the AI 458 was leading the race in front of the LaFerraris before I punter him off and HE STILL was right at the heels of the other two?

4. You still don’t get the point of this post

I'm driving an underpowered car like a moron and the AI can catch up to me?!?!? This game is bull 🤬!!!!!1!

The underpowered car which was leading the race in front of both LaFerraris and was right at their back even though I punted him off?

Not very hard to lose to the AI when you drive slower than them

You too don’t get the point of this post

And how can I drive slower when I already made up the 20+ second gap the game gives you every race?

 

[sparkytooth]

Ok so how powerful is your magical laferrari destroying 458 you can barely drive yourself