But why would it be more than Forza, when it's sitting at 2 million less players? Double the sales while being nearly 25% less players doesn't really sound like good math on your part. For Horizon, not by a long shot, but that seems more likely for the lesser Motorsport segment.
We know because PD told us.
The exact same caliber of source that we have for GT's numbers, the developer and publisher.
Various GT titles have been given away free with Playstation consoles since the birth of the series, as have Forza titles with Xbox consoles.
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Well you said Forza, so that covers quite a lot, so I made sure to cover every base. However, why wouldn't you talk about Horizon, other than the fact that you wouldn't be able to make the game look bad and take a jab at it if you actually were talking about it, right? Either way, the fact that I said 9 million users should have been obvious that I was talking about Horizon 3 which was not on the gamepass.
And?
Sales have little relativity at all, to anyone here, anyways. They do absolutely nothing for us other than to be used as some kind of 1-upper as seen by the likes of @GT6mebe when he constantly berates any other game that isn't GTS.
So you only want to include the ways a game can be given away that support your own bias?
https://www.ea.com/news/ea-need-for-speed-franchise-past-100-million-copies?isLocalized=true
Once again you only want to include the ways a game can be given away that support your own bias?
Which makes a very interesting point when you see all the people bring up GT sales in order to bring down others - Something selling a lot doesn't automatically make it the best and only option. NFS is testament to that, even if they are actually improving. Albeit very slowely. In the very same vein, something that sold a little doesn't make it bad either. So I'm not sure why this bit of information is held so dear to some.
Yeah, T10 they've never gave the sales data for anything, but again, why does that matter? What would having that number help you accomplish, what would it do for you?
No one's talking about an advantage. All we're talking about is the data presented. What exact advantage is there to be had in the first place? That's the kind of ridiculous mentality I don't fully understand.As far as Horizon series is concerned. If the 9million players is using both PC and Xbox platforms then obviously it has advantage. GTS we know already has sold more than 3.3million in 2018 itself. I should think if the sales of Horizon are higher. Microsoft or playground games should have announced the official numbers
Oh I agree, 2015 was terrible in that regard. However, it still sold a lot regardless if the playerbase is anything to go by. It was a big name that had it's first installment into the next generation, that usually helps with initial sales, as you'll notice next iterations get lower, even if the game has improved.
You don't mean player numbers could fluctuate do you........
Using trophy data and then extrapolating is not accurate. Gamestat had GTS at 7.2 million in December 2018.
Or flat out ignore any and all actual facts and points when brought attention to the fact that he's being incredibly misleading. Much like now.
Was going to touch up on that!
I mean, after saying so much ridiculous things, gotta let the heat die down a bit and avoid everyone!Why does that make it unfair? So you're saying a fair comparison is when you're very selective about what you compare from each game, in order to make one appear better/worse, rather than all the information combined from all parties?
As a lifelong GT fan I bailed out 6 months after GT5’s release. I didn’t even play GT6 as I was already on PS4. I was slightly underwhelmed by GT Sport’s launch but it’s handling and livery creator kept me hooked. I’ve played all of the competition and think GT Sport is the superior package. FH4 is also an excellent title but more an NFS rival.
You wanna know the real kicker? No one actually is worried about the success of the franchise in this discussion, and no one has mentioned anything about it outside of the ones seem to be married to GT. Weird right?
The point has spanned many threads and has been living on for a long time because @GT6mebe has a rager for anything GT, and has gone around and berated any game(or anyone that likes said games) that has dared sell as well, or have as many players as GTS and has used half-truths at best, and completely lies at worst, to try to make a point. All this is, is a continuation to his literal years worth of a crusade - one that is chalk full of hypocrisy, goal post moving, and double standards. He'll eventually disappear from this thread and the forum in general for a month or so, and come back and do it all over again in a different thread. Rinse and repeat month after month, year after year.
GT seemed to be in the same trend as well. We used to have actual data before, but with GTS, they stopped sharing that information.
But why does that make it unfair? And massively? I'm not so sure. Care to show a statistic? Your last statistic showed that nearly 75% of the playerbase from DC was because of the "free" game, which was obviously pulled straight from a rectal cavity.
That's not even math.
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And?DC only has more players due to the free PS+ version. Sales of DC were 2 million after one year
Yep this detractor is sat in his rig watching a GTS replay while typing this.
And that stops them being players of the title in question how?
