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Engine swaps in GT5? Yes please.
Chill, not everyone is into rice as much as you.
GT4 HP vs GT5 HP
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Engine swaps in GT5? Yes please.
Chill, not everyone is into rice as much as you.
TT3AZ
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Rice, you you know what the term rice is in the street scene? All cars can be riced out, even american and european cars. JDM cars that are proper modded arent ricers. Look here:
Streetcar:
Ricer:
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Yeah, so what? A F1 car smokes a Fiat 500 on a long straight too. Also, I doubt that the user you replied to owns a Ferrari/Lambo so I don`t see any reason for him to be pissed off.
You also seem to forget that there are no mechanical failures in GT5, in RL your +1000hp supras would never ever make it trough a 24 hour race.
Can I ask you something, are you one of those kiddys who are doing ridiculous things on public roads because they think that they are so cool and driving so cool tuned supras/etc?
Geez. Tune your street cars and have fun with them in GT5. But race cars shouldnt be allowed to be modified. Its already a pain to drive in GT500 races online with a non modificated car because all the other ones have max tuned their cars and restricted power, which is still a huge advantage.
A Jaguar XJR9 shouldn`t have a turbo charger tuning option. Just like every Group C, LMP, JGTC or DTM car.
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The "ricer" you posted is ugly as hell.
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Indeed, and the car too.
I dont see how you think a 1000 HP car wont last when it has a block girdle and massive rods and bearings and is balanced to 10000 rpms (every time).
1000 HP Supras are tough. They dont like to break. That is why people use a stock bottom end and the stock 6 speed bulletproof getrag and the bulletproof rear end on them.
I want to be able to push 500 HP out of my Honda Civic because it is easily possible in real life, a fully modded TO THE MAX civic in this game should have over 700 hp.
the game is meant to tune and race street cars, and race cars as well.
like i said i quit playing this ****** game and went back to gt4 because it is SO much better. not just the tuning but everything else.
I cant wait until they add the stage 4 turbo and engine balancing port and polish and the full racing clutch and flywheel to this game and then all cars will have even MORE hp and you can all bitch and whine.
And whoever said that the Group C cars couldnt last with that much power is ****ing retarded, a turbo doesnt "blow up" or wear out just because it is pushing higher boost, that is what its meant to do. They are oil cooled and never overheat and dont need to be replaced, and the engines were ran on an engine dyno testing to the extreme's and were built to last at that level.
Thats like trying to say someone who has their 12V Cummins Diesel on higher boost pushing 600 HP and 1500 ft/lbs (more then a semi truck) is going to blow their engine up. So stupid, those engines are known to last over a million miles.
1000 HP Supras are tough. They dont like to break. That is why people use a stock bottom end and the stock 6 speed bulletproof getrag and the bulletproof rear end on them.
I want to be able to push 500 HP out of my Honda Civic because it is easily possible in real life, a fully modded TO THE MAX civic in this game should have over 700 hp.
the game is meant to tune and race street cars, and race cars as well.
like i said i quit playing this ****** game and went back to gt4 because it is SO much better. not just the tuning but everything else.
I cant wait until they add the stage 4 turbo and engine balancing port and polish and the full racing clutch and flywheel to this game and then all cars will have even MORE hp and you can all bitch and whine.
And whoever said that the Group C cars couldnt last with that much power is ****ing retarded, a turbo doesnt "blow up" or wear out just because it is pushing higher boost, that is what its meant to do. They are oil cooled and never overheat and dont need to be replaced, and the engines were ran on an engine dyno testing to the extreme's and were built to last at that level.
Thats like trying to say someone who has their 12V Cummins Diesel on higher boost pushing 600 HP and 1500 ft/lbs (more then a semi truck) is going to blow their engine up. So stupid, those engines are known to last over a million miles.
Mr. CoolFiat
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r0llinlacs
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Street cars need more HP tuned. It is immensely disappointing every time I tune a car.
If I wanted an all motor NSX, then by golly, I would CHOOSE not to put a turbo on it. But for PD to make the decision for me, and put limitations on my "fun", is wrong.
All of you nay-sayers are probably the idiots who can't actually "tune" the parts you buy for your car, so you drive around with everyday bolt-ons and say "stock is best" to make yourself feel better. Yeah, stock is best if you don't know how to tune anything.
PD /fail
Yeah man, last year we were pushin 1800hp in our Escudo. But this year we barely hit 1050hp... must be something in the air??
The guy that said it's probably to make the X1 look better, you are probably right. And I hate the X1 that much more now. I could definitely see PD making a stupid decision like that. "Oh, we got this super un-realistic bat-mobile in the game now, so lets dumb down our 999 real cars to make this fake one look better."
If I wanted an all motor NSX, then by golly, I would CHOOSE not to put a turbo on it. But for PD to make the decision for me, and put limitations on my "fun", is wrong.
All of you nay-sayers are probably the idiots who can't actually "tune" the parts you buy for your car, so you drive around with everyday bolt-ons and say "stock is best" to make yourself feel better. Yeah, stock is best if you don't know how to tune anything.
PD /fail
Yeah man, last year we were pushin 1800hp in our Escudo. But this year we barely hit 1050hp... must be something in the air??
The guy that said it's probably to make the X1 look better, you are probably right. And I hate the X1 that much more now. I could definitely see PD making a stupid decision like that. "Oh, we got this super un-realistic bat-mobile in the game now, so lets dumb down our 999 real cars to make this fake one look better."
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Fixed that for you.
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I don`t care about crap street cars in a videogame. Yes, you turn a civic into a 700hp monster in real life. Cool. I wouldn`t mind it if you were able to do the same in GT5, aslong as it makes fun for you.
But can you prove me that such a car is able to finish a 24 hour race?
Edit: Also don`t forget, tuning is very limited in GT5. Im not talking about the "numbers" you get from changing the turbo charger, but the tuning options you got.
Yes, in a race. This game is not about photomode, cruising or tuning, its about racing. No matter what you say, its about race driving.
And I won`t change my opinion. Race cars are always limited by the restrictions. If put a stage 3 turbo in GT5 into a Castrol Impul GT-R, its no longer a GT500 car.
Also there are special cars, like the XJR9, this car is legend because it is NA and won in LeMans against such a strong competition using turbos. This car should never have a turbo charger option in this game. Or a 2010 Peugeot 908 HDI... How can anyone think of improving such a car?
And group C cars NEVER delivered 1200-1500hp during the race. Not in the 80s/early 90s.
TT3AZ
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There are different types of racing in GT5, not only Nurburg 24h, there are many street type racing aswell, like the ssr7. If gt5 wasnt about tuning streetcars, how come streetcars are in the game? How come all other gt series had streetcars that could be tuned much more than in gt5? It just a minority of cars that are race cars, all other cars are everyday life cars and semi sportcars. Tuning is a very essential part of this game, and depending on how you tune your car, it will make a huge differance, so yes tuning is important. Photoshoot and cruising is also fun, and many people does it in online rooms.
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Adding 40 hp to a streetcar is one thing. Demanding PD to allow you to take them to ridiculous 1000+ hp levels is just silly, unnecessary and unrealistic.
Bragging about 1200hp Honda Civics is just telling the rest of the world you'd have loved to have a supercar but could only afford a family hatchback.
TT3AZ
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Haha, most of the people running 1000 hp supras can afford multiple supercars, but they actually want to tune the cars them selves as a hobby. You dont understand the concept och streetcar tuning. The tuning in gt5 is unrealistic, because some cars have higher hp than they would have in real life, while others have lower hp. I dont understand why they have degraded the hp levels in gt5. Gt4 hp levels was more accurate to real life, at least for jdm cars.
Mr. CoolFiat
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Sports cars were made to go fast.
JDM ricers with 1000hp motors were given steroids to go fast.
Who typically wins?
Mr. ALL-NATURAL, not STEROID JOE! OK? Because if you werent made to go fast, you shouldn't go fast... now I am goign to go study why me (a 13 yr old) beat the crap out of 20 yr olds on a 325m Go-Kart racetrack... and why I lapped one of them, and had a gap of 2 seconds on both.... and the track is a 20 sec (average) per lap, I got 18 secs... one of the fastest ever!
TT3AZ
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Well, that why you have tuning, tuning is a important part of motorsport and racing. Fortuinatly tuning is in gt series, and that is what made gt popular from first begining. JDM cars arent ricers, dont you know what ricer is? Who decides what car is made to go fast from begining or not? This game isnt about racing stock cars, if you dont tune cars in gt5 you miss alot of things, that i can tell you. Either you cant afford the upgrades, or you cant tune the car properly.Sports cars were made to go fast.
JDM ricers with 1000hp motors were given steroids to go fast.
Who typically wins?
Mr. ALL-NATURAL, not STEROID JOE! OK? Because if you werent made to go fast, you shouldn't go fast... now I am goign to go study why me (a 13 yr old) beat the crap out of 20 yr olds on a 325m Go-Kart racetrack... and why I lapped one of them, and had a gap of 2 seconds on both.... and the track is a 20 sec (average) per lap, I got 18 secs... one of the fastest ever!
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Because those 1000+ HP supras and skylines run massive single turbo setups that, even with methanol/nitrous to assist spool up, still have turbo lag. They're made to dyno and they're made to drag race.
Aside from reliability, you don't see them track racing because the crappy power delivery, which means they would suck to try and control. Having your power output jump 50% in the space of 1000rpm is not good for car control, especially when you're spending most of the time going around corners.
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Seriously? So because a car wasn't made to go fast, that means it can't
?And are you saying the japanese have no sports cars, only ricers?
Anyway, I think most of the cars in GT5 are fine when tuned, the Viper ACR can give 1000hp if that's what you want.
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Seriously? So because a car wasn't made to fast, that means it can't go fast
My only issue would be with regards to FWD vehicles. Once you start to get over 300+ hp, it gets so difficult to put power down because you're really battling physics at that point. Yes, you can build a 700HP Civic, but you can't roll on throttle unless you're pointed straight and even then the weight tries to shift off of the front wheels and just spin. Diminishing returns there I think.
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Well.. with the limited tuning options in GT5 it's not exactly rocketscience nor a heavy investment to do a proper tune on any car, so I don't really see your point.
Actually, careful suspension/LSD tuning is much more interesting than the "OMG l@@k at my 10000 HP Vip0r" tuning that all the drag-kids seem to be into.
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Yeah you right about that, the front wheel drive and the power wouldn't be very good around the track. I don't disagree with that, I thought you guys were talking about all japanese cars in general.
Well, I think any car has a balance point. For a given weight and amount of grip, it's only going to be able to go around a track so fast. Adding more power on top of that will just make it less drivable. I know all cars (Japanese included) can be faster with tuning. It's just the mentality of "more power = always faster" that I don't agree with.
There are reasons you don't see 1200HP time attack cars. People are complaining that it's "not realistic" because GT5 doesn't let you do that, but considering you don't see it done (using 1000+ HP street cars for track racing), I'd say it's more realistic.
TT3AZ
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So a 1000 hp mercedes sl600 is realistic weight 1500+ kg, even though in real life you get about 750 hp while tuning that car? The HP in this game is screwed up. Even the supercars like labos and ferraris have to much hp, considering they are N/A. In real life if you want to achieve those hp rates, turbo is the way to go. But we cant turbo all cars either, which is strange as hell. Face it, hp rates is a drawback in gt5, and i hope they fix it. And you see high hp time attack cars, like 800 hp evos.
I just want to know why I can't put a turbo or supercharger on a VW R32. Couldn't do it in GT4 either though, despite a turbocharged version available in the tuner village (which was a ridiculous value - something like 550 HP, AWD, awesome car all for around 32,000 Cr - about the same as the stock version).
I can quickly and easily find bolt-on turbo kits for an R32 online starting at less than $700; why can't I add one in the game? I know it isn't the only car with this issue, either - they seem to have arbitrarily decided that some cars can/cannot be tuned in certain ways (and yet I can chip a 1960's muscle car...).
I can quickly and easily find bolt-on turbo kits for an R32 online starting at less than $700; why can't I add one in the game? I know it isn't the only car with this issue, either - they seem to have arbitrarily decided that some cars can/cannot be tuned in certain ways (and yet I can chip a 1960's muscle car...).
