GT4 HP vs GT5 HP

[Tonkz]

The cars got older between the two games, so the HP dropped. It's super realistic.

Interesting point... But if i spend 500k on rebuilding the Engine & the cars Frame, Shouldn't the Horsepower be 1,200 + again on the Nissan R92P ?

 

[freedomweasel]

Interesting point... But if i spend 500k on rebuilding the Engine & the cars Frame, Shouldn't the Horsepower be 1,200 + again on the Nissan R92P ?

I wasn't being serious at all. 👍

 

[articzap]

but those 1000+HP skylines and supras are just for show, running on a dyno to show people how powerful they are and maybe a drag event.

But not racing around a track

Who says everyone here races around a track. And a well setup car won't be hurt from more horsepower, just get faster, or stay same track time.

 

[sdf]

about realistic , i find GT5 more realistic. all this cars maybe able to reach 1000+ HP....but i dont think that a supra, skyline or an SLS can do 5 full laps in suzuka with tuned engine up to 1000+hp without blowing everything out of the hood.

It would be cool to have a tune/mod option "Drag or Circuit".

 

[articzap]

about realistic , i find GT5 more realistic. all this cars maybe able to reach 1000+ HP....but i dont think that a supra, skyline or an SLS can do 5 full laps in suzuka with tuned engine up to 1000+hp without blowing everything out of the hood.

It would be cool to have a tune/mod option "Drag or Circuit".

I would bet your wrong about supras. Trust me on this.

 

[charliec]

I would bet your wrong about supras. Trust me on this.

Do you know of 1 track-raced Supra that produces over 1000HP? Not a shop car, drag-racer or 1200HP street car, but an honest track-prepped Supra that makes 1000HP in race trim for lap after lap of racing? I've seen plenty of high HP Supra's, but the 1000+ HP ones...I've not seen raced competitively on a track.

EDIT - By the way, I'm not saying it's outside the realm of possibility, I'm just saying I literally don't know of any. I'd be happy to know if there were.

 

[JTSnooks]

I think it's odd that a dodge SRT4 can get up to what? 650 - 750 hp?
But at the same time an NSX can't get much more than 500hp?
Plus I've met people who CLAIM TO have 800hp + Honda accords. Yet I could only get like 320 or something out of the one on GT5.

Fixed. I'd be willing to bet that other than non-street legal drag-only tube-frame fiberglass-bodied "Accords", there may be 2 in the US that actually make anywhere near 800hp. There likely are 0, but I'm leaving a small chance that someone is just that insane.

 

[sdf]

I would bet your wrong about supras. Trust me on this.

I am Japanese-car die hard fun but that is not possible.
I was reading about a 1000+hp drag supra some years back (a blue one with tubonetics stickers) and they were saying that every 3-4 drag races they had to check/replace the crankshaft cause it was twisting.

 

[freedomweasel]

I am Japanese-car die hard fun but that is not possible.
I was reading about a 1000+hp drag supra some years back (a blue one with tubonetics stickers) and they were saying that every 3-4 drag races they had to check/replace the crankshaft cause it was twisting.

Exactly. Just because a car can put up the numbers on a dyno, or during a drag race doesn't mean they can do the same for a even a few laps.

 

[ghostrider135]

Dont know where you got that information from but that was just a rumour.

Nah man not a rumour it was down on power compared with namely the Toyota Celica of the day so they needed it to stay competitive

 

[freedomweasel]

Nah man not a rumour it was down on power compared with namely the Toyota Celica of the day so they needed it to stay competitive

Citation?

 

[articzap]

I am Japanese-car die hard fun but that is not possible.
I was reading about a 1000+hp drag supra some years back (a blue one with tubonetics stickers) and they were saying that every 3-4 drag races they had to check/replace the crankshaft cause it was twisting.

Stroker cranks have greater rod angles...

 

[AndyKosch]

I don't think race spec 1200bhp skylines and supras are possible without forged duraluminium pistons and crankshafts.. and probably titanium-granite gearboxes

And I don't think that should be incorporated into our daily tuning options :-)

 

[Mr_X]

It would be cool to run the cars at higher power for short events and be able to drop it to a reasonable level for reliability in longer races but I don't see it happening anytime soon maybe the next GT

 

[dj-smurph]

For how long? A few qualifying laps? Oh wait it doesn't say there does it?

And how about relax a little? Do you get this agitated every time some one asks you to prove a claim you make?

In the 80s f1 cars ran 1500+in qualifying but the had tO come in after 3 laps and replace the turbo. At the end of the session the engine was binned. All engines are capable of running stupid horse power. GM was running a funny car that had the 2l ecotec engine found in vauxhall/Opel vectra that was running standard rods and was pushing out close to 1000bhp. But it was always trashing the engine. Regrarding the nissans Mark blundells qualifiying lap of lemans back in the early 90's is legendary as the boost was full on (about 1200bhp) he was so fast the pitlane thought he was going to die. There is a reason why the chicanes was put into the mulsanne straight.

 

[dj-smurph]

about realistic , i find GT5 more realistic. all this cars maybe able to reach 1000+ HP....but i dont think that a supra, skyline or an SLS can do 5 full laps in suzuka with tuned engine up to 1000+hp without blowing everything out of the hood.

It would be cool to have a tune/mod option "Drag or Circuit".

There was drag cars in gt3 but there was no proper drag strip to face off with your mates. It was only half done and as dlc wasn't even invented it never saw the light of day.

 

[TT3AZ]

I don't think race spec 1200bhp skylines and supras are possible without forged duraluminium pistons and crankshafts.. and probably titanium-granite gearboxes

And I don't think that should be incorporated into our daily tuning options :-)

Thats why companies sell stroker kit, with crank, pistons, and those things included. There are many 800 supras out there, adn yes you can drive a 1000 hp supra on drag many times.

 

[charliec]

Thats why companies sell stroker kit, with crank, pistons, and those things included. There are many 800 supras out there, adn yes you can drive a 1000 hp supra on drag many times.

I think it's hard to compare the drivability and reliability of a 1000HP Supra going in straight lines for 10 seconds at a time versus 20 minutes of track driving.

I've yet to see anyone show any example of any track car with that kind of power. Even for time attack cars.

 

[Poppins]

Ive seen many cases of 450+ WHP 1.6L SOHC D series Civic engines lasting for upwards of 100k miles dragging and launching all the time with minimal breakage.

Easily reliable at that power level.

There is also an R32 GTR in my town that has had the engine fully built and machined and is pushing ~800 AWHP. I saw him driving around the other day and the car sounded like any other average car driving around town. Low RPMs, low boost. Easily DDable.

anyways ive been playing gt4 lately with my 1136 HP TVR Speed 12 that Im able to run <50 seconds on Tsukuba with so Im happy.

Also got my 2J at 1100+ HP

 

[MercilessOne]

I can understand the deal with race cars being limited. It might have something to do with class balancing.

But for standard production cars? C'mon! They should at least make some of those JDM cars push quad digits through use of turbochargers and/or superchargers. I'm a little disappointed that the R34 can only go up to 800 HP. Where's the 1000+ I'm looking for? Freedom to tune please.

 

[Mr_X]

All they gotta do is just speed up engine wear requiring more frequent rebuilds for cars running at really high hp levels

 

[alonsof1fan91]

You guys are going to hate me, but I really hope that PD cuts every tuning options for race cars.

Yes, you heared it right. I hate it that armchair tuners try to change something on proven le mans winner like the XJR9.

 

[brambos]

You guys are going to hate me, but I really hope that PD cuts every tuning options for race cars.

Yes, you heared it right. I hate it that armchair tuners try to change something on proven le mans winner like the XJR9.

GT5 prologue had it right. You only unlocked the tuning settings when you had proven yourself worthy to use them. None of this ricing crap with 10000 hp Supras and Skylines etc.

 

[TT3AZ]

GT5 prologue had it right. You only unlocked the tuning settings when you had proven yourself worthy to use them. None of this ricing crap with 10000 hp Supras and Skylines etc.

Ricing crap, and 1000 hp supras and skylines? Do you know the ammount of money and time it takes to build 1000 hp supras? I can promise you that a 800-1000 ish supra blows anything away, just watch the videos on youtube. If you think japanese cars are ricers, than you have wrong. According to me, many cars in gt5 should have increased hp, while others should have decreased hp. The hp in gt5 isnt realistic. You will never see a sl65 with 1000 hp though, because no vendors manufacture the parts needed to reach those hp ranges in real life.

 

[TT3AZ]

I think it's hard to compare the drivability and reliability of a 1000HP Supra going in straight lines for 10 seconds at a time versus 20 minutes of track driving.

I've yet to see anyone show any example of any track car with that kind of power. Even for time attack cars.

How come other cars have higher hp than in real life in this game? Look at all these "high" hp cars, not many of them can be tuned to those hp in real life, while jdm cars can, because there are aftermarket parts to them.

 

[brambos]

Ricing crap, and 1000 hp supras and skylines? Do you know the ammount of money and time it takes to build 1000 hp supras?

No, and I don't particularly care, because they weren't supposed to have it in the first place.

 

[TT3AZ]

No, and I don't particularly care, because they weren't supposed to have it in the first place.

Well, what do you say about the other high hp cars then? GT5 is about modding regular cars, and tuning has been in gt since first begining. Tuned streetcars is what made gt popular in the first begining. Then you suggest no tuning at all since "they shouldnt have it from the beggining"? Take your non tuned lambo, ferrari etc, and I take a tuned streetcar, se who smokes who on the long straight. You are just pissed because supras and jdm owns your expensive supercars.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=RkDdfA5MUUM


/2jzgtte y vr38dett

 

[brambos]

Take your non tuned lambo, ferrari etc, and I take a tuned streetcar, se who smokes who on the long straight. You are just pissed because supras and jdm owns your expensive supercars.

u mad bro?

 

[PAWEL17]

Ricing crap, and 1000 hp supras and skylines? Do you know the ammount of money and time it takes to build 1000 hp supras? I can promise you that a 800-1000 ish supra blows anything away, just watch the videos on youtube. If you think japanese cars are ricers, than you have wrong. According to me, many cars in gt5 should have increased hp, while others should have decreased hp. The hp in gt5 isnt realistic. You will never see a sl65 with 1000 hp though, because no vendors manufacture the parts needed to reach those hp ranges in real life.

Maybe have different levels of tuning? Race car tuning, drift tuning, drag tuning, endurance race tuning. You have to choose a path to tune your car, before beginning to tune your vehicle.

 

[TT3AZ]

The concept of tuning is good in gt5, they only need to increase hp for some cars, thats it. And that is what people dont want, they dont want to be owned by streetcars ,in theyr 1 milion lambos and farraris.