Even though I am greatly amused by the fact that Forza is now imitating GT4 in yet another way (i.e. never-ending delays), I am not a Forza hater... far from it...
I don't own an Xbox, but infact Forza is making me very tempted to buy one, just so that I can have the 'best-of-both-worlds' - owning both GT4 and Forza. However, I can understand that this particular forum is short on sympathy for Forza, precisely for reasons eloquently described elsewhere (i.e. this being gtplanet.net and all!

), but I think the majority of GT lovers also appreciate other worthy racing titles as well, and Forza looks like it will deliver on many fronts... eventually.