GT5 Engine Sounds

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Have anybody ever noticed on the chase cam the cars sound more realistic towards real life? For example the cockpit view for the BMW sounds like a vacuum cleaner. But when I change to chase cam, my 5.1 speakers are much louder with a deeper sound and I compared it to the real life bmw m3 onboard youtube video. The chase cam sounds more like how the cockpit cam should sound like. I wonder did PD ever recorded the cockpit view sounds?
 
shurnster
Have anybody ever noticed on the chase cam the cars sound more realistic towards real life? For example the cockpit view for the BMW sounds like a vacuum cleaner. But when I change to chase cam, my 5.1 speakers are much louder with a deeper sound and I compared it to the real life bmw m3 onboard youtube video. The chase cam sounds more like how the cockpit cam should sound like. I wonder did PD ever recorded the cockpit view sounds?
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Yes it sounds slightly better in chase view but still not even close to real life.
 
It's not just the modifications. I bought another Enzo to leave stock for the supercar seasonal (nice close races, too!), but it still doesn't sound anywhere near as good as it should out of my Polk RTi-A7 fronts and sub, though the engine noise should really be BEHIND me in cockpit or nose cam (I'm fine with front sub, rear channels if we absolutely can't get multiple sub support).
 
Uxi
It's not just the modifications. I bought another Enzo to leave stock for the supercar seasonal (nice close races, too!), but it still doesn't sound anywhere near as good as it should out of my Polk RTi-A7 fronts and sub, though the engine noise should really be BEHIND me in cockpit or nose cam (I'm fine with front sub, rear channels if we absolutely can't get multiple sub support).
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Engine noise remains in front of you in those views. Exhaust noise is whats behind you. GT5 has recorded engine noises quite decent for the most part (Nissan GTR engine sounds great). Its the exhaust sound that needs allot of work.
 
Res268
ITS LIKE ALL THE CARS SOUND THE SAME, JUS BOUT 5 DIFF ENGINE SOUNDS SPREAD THROUGHOUT 1031 CARS :grumpy: U CANT EVEN HEAR THE VTEC IN THE HONDAS
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O' rly? my gt5 civic says other wise.



then again i have a sound setup for GT5.... which improves things, 110% across the entire board... especially the bass and spitfire sound coming from the SLS and SLR..and other v8 mercedes amazing.
 
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Uxi
Some cars are good, but most are week. I can't say I've notice MR or RR cars with the engine sound coming from behind me as much as the front. I do need to get a rear sub, too, though, but who expects GT5 to support 2 separate sub channels, though?

A larger issue is that my Prius sounds deeper than my Enzo, which sounds much higher pitched that the youtube vids I see. I do need to experiment with raising the bass, etc on a special GT5 profile/preset on my AVR, though.

Transmission whine is much too loud especially on adjustible transmissions, too
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I totally agree about the tranny whine. Adding a full adjustable tranny makes all the cars sound the same. Really ruins some of cars for me, like the old muscle cars.
 
Let's face it...the Engine sounds in ALL the Granturismo Series are by far,the worst in the industry.Always have been and sadly it seems PD will never "get it".

It's actually stopped me playing the game.
 
Mr P510
Let's face it...the Engine sounds in ALL the Granturismo Series are by far,the worst in the industry.Always have been and sadly it seems PD will never "get it".

It's actually stopped me playing the game.
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its a shame you have not played it with a good system setup, this game has very good sounds, especially Doppler effects.
 
ceasarschariot
i thought the sounds were terrible, although after racing in the vw bus for gold to open up the top gear test track I thought , hey, now here is one car i have found in the game that passes my criticism. all others fail that ive heard so far. i have my fingers crossed that it would be possible to have dlc down the road like the chevy engine and exhaust pack that updates all the computer like sound files for the cars. just a whole pack for each make or just premiums, i hope they do something.

i canceled my order on a g27 wheel due to the computer engine and exhaust notes. so will be going with a cheaper wheel.

im at a loss on how they missed a key element.

if nothing is ever done then in time i will favorite all the cars i can tolerate listening too while driving and stick with those. really was hoping for realistic examples of each car
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Agree, if you want awsome sounding cars, im sorry to say but, forza 3 eats gt5 in this area!!
 
TorqueHappenS08
its a shame you have not played it with a good system setup, this game has very good sounds, especially Doppler effects.
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Yep a good Setup will Improve things Greatly but PD really shouldn't Expect Everybody to have a Proper Sound System.(As if a Cockpit isn't enough).

Love your Vtec Video if you got any more ,feel free to post.👍
 
Mr P510
Let's face it...the Engine sounds in ALL the Granturismo Series are by far,the worst in the industry.Always have been and sadly it seems PD will never "get it".

It's actually stopped me playing the game.
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That's not true and it never has been. However, for a long time, the engine sounds have not been the best in the industry (that's an entirely different statement). At the time, though, GT2 was pretty impressive, especially given the massive, unprecedented variety present and the contrast to the original game. Predictably, other games caught up; PD (seemingly) focused on other areas.

Actually, there's no telling what areas have been focused on. Weather prototypes have clearly existed since before GT3, among other things. They might have a little project in the pipeline which may require better hardware, or simply more time - in this case, the current system shouldn't really be invested in too much.
Then again, they may not have any such plans. Either way, the sounds are "OK"; disappointing, but not game-breaking (for me).
 
Thebiach
Agree, if you want awsome sounding cars, im sorry to say but, forza 3 eats gt5 in this area!!
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sems4arsenal
Yep a good Setup will Improve things Greatly but PD really shouldn't Expect Everybody to have a Proper Sound System.(As if a Cockpit isn't enough).
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I have a proper sound system and it still sounds like garbage. All the sound system does is enhance how terrible the cars sound.
Griffith500
That's not true and it never has been. However, for a long time, the engine sounds have not been the best in the industry (that's an entirely different statement). At the time, though, GT2 was pretty impressive, especially given the massive, unprecedented variety present and the contrast to the original game.
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Actually even NFS 2 and Test Drive 5 had better exhaust sounds than GT2 IMO
 
zr1chris
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Actually even NFS 2 and Test Drive 5 had better exhaust sounds than GT2 IMO
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I honestly get a giggle from your grumpy outbursts, but I'm not sure you understood what I was trying to say.

I said that GT2's sound was impressive considering its scale: there were ~ 650 cars, and many of these had 4 exhaust sounds, some had 7 as a result of turbo conversions. Granted, many of these were repeated over various cars, much as they still are in GT5, and a lot of cars were minor trim variations. Still, that's hundreds of sounds to mix and balance etc.
As I said, it was unprecedented and was a massive step up from GT, on the same hardware. No game actually tries to cover the same range; Forza 3, for instance, dropped the ability to change the engine sound of a car by tuning, outside of engine swaps and turbo conversions. Perhaps GT would be better off with a single sound for each car, regardless of state of tune, but I actually like trying all the exhausts on each car in GT- a habit started with GT2.

There's still hope for the future, anyway. If Forza 4 manages to bring back engine sounds that change as you tune the cars, whilst maintaining the same level of quality, then perhaps Gran Turismo may properly be considered inferior. There's also still time for improvement with GT, but I don't expect too much this generation.

As for GT2's contemporaries, NFS2 was still only mediocre in terms of car sounds, and there were only 12 cars (well, 26 if you included the traffic, drivable with cheats). TD5 had 28 cars; I think I gave up on Test Drive after the fourth iteration, but it's difficult to say that GT2 sounded worse than TD5 in terms of engine sound alone.
 
My thoughts, for what it's worth:

I agree that GT has always been relatively poor on sounds (esp GT4), with the acknowledgement of the vast array of cars that are modelled. I have also never played any of the non-gt games mentioned.

At risk of repeating from other threads, IRL there is a big difference with what you hear inside a car from outside, especially behind. You don't normally get the full belt of the tailpipe from in the car, you get wind and road noise, bumps, engine revs, intake, turbo, etc.

As for the racing gears, if you've ever been in one, or watched in-cab footage of a race or rally car the overriding noise is the whine of the transmission. I'm not a racer, but have been in a few.

IMO the 'bumper' cam is similar to cockpit sounds - whether that's right or wrong I don't know. Sounds like most people would prefer ther exhaust sound.

Also IMHO the only way to judge the true sound is by watching the replays, and I think in many respects the sounds are excellent for alot of the cars, disappointing for others. Currently top of the list is the 69 Camaro RM with full race exhaust - it really does thunder. I also thought the 79 Civic with race system sounded great.

Certainly it's better on my surround system (surround effects are pretty good too) - but still good through tv.
 
I honestly think the sounds in this game are at two extremes. At one end you have cars like my Enzo, fully tuned with FC gearbox and racing exhaust, I just cannot resist turning up my sound system and going full throttle on straights. It's a loud, V12 scream and it really sounds good.
On the other hand, and I think someone mentioned it above, you go buy a Subaru and tell me the racing exhaust doesn't make you go 'eww!' Or maybe the amazing Audi R8 V10, which sounds like there's a cat stuck in the timing belt, and that's without the racing tranny screaming at you.
I don't agree with the comments telling of Forza 3's sound design because, honestly, the whole of Forza just sounds like a sawtooth wave at a random pitch depending on car. Whereas GT5 has clearly used overlaid and pitched samples to make up it's sounds, Forza just sounds completely artificial.
Personally I hope that an improvement will be made to GT5, but until then I shall just have to keep my iPod dock up loud to drown out the godawful cars :D
 
z33_mike
Some cars, like my Lambo full exhaust, sounds a bit raspy. But my Viper which isn't fully built, sounds amazing as well as my fully built Civic, the Cam and Exhaust note sound pretty good. I can agree that some cars sound bad but others sound good.

But in real life, my straight pipe ( No cat ) Twin Turbo 350z sounds amazing with external wastegates and open dumps. But a stock 350z with Exhaust and straight Pipe ( No Cats ) does not sound as good. Too raspy.
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external wastegates with open dumps? what diameter tubes did you use on them? It's a different engine, but I changed mine from 3/4 to 1¼ and it sounds way better

for those who don't know, that kind of exhaust on a turbo car is scary for bystanders



more on subject: race exhaust tends to produce more high pitched sounds, which most of us find annoying on a street car... it's normal not to like them in the game. It's not a problem of the game, but of the cars themselves
 
From all the racing games I have for the PS3 (Dirt 1 and 2 -F1 Ce - F1 2010 - Midnight Club - TDU2 - Shift 1 and 2 and even Superstars V8 NC) GT5 is the one with the worst car sounds. It almost ruins the experience... the 787B almost escapes it though...

I really cant understand it - when you choose a car and the engine starts the sound is great but on track... :(
 
I think MOST of the car's engine noises are great. You do realize they record straight from the engine (mostly)?

I think a few cars are iffy BECAUSE they are hard to get hold of. For example, the old Le Mans cars.
 
zr1chris
How was that a grumpy outburst? I just gave an opinion.
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I meant your posts in general, not that I'm complaining. There was definitely grumpiness in that post, although it wasn't directed at me ;)

Anyway, I offered a reason as to why your opinion is perhaps a bit short-sighted; a reason I'd actually already stated in the post you replied to with said opinion. Explicitly put: GT2 deliberately has way more scope than either of those games you mentioned.

The same is true of GT5, albeit to a slightly lesser extent.
 
Griffith500
I meant your posts in general, not that I'm complaining. There was definitely grumpiness in that post, although it wasn't directed at me ;)

Anyway, I offered a reason as to why your opinion is perhaps a bit short-sighted; a reason I'd actually already stated in the post you replied to with said opinion. Explicitly put: GT2 deliberately has way more scope than either of those games you mentioned.

The same is true of GT5, albeit to a slightly lesser extent.
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Again, it wasn't grumpiness. I just think the GT series has always had a very generic and poor exhaust sound quality. GT2 imo could have improved the sound of the cars even using generic sounds without much effort. They still could have been much better.
 

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