GT5 Review scores (Update :Average metacritic score)

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I have a feeling that PD won't let anybody review the game until the game actually comes out in order to avoid any sort of hit on sales due to the bad physics or standard car debacle.
 
I think looking at reveiws on GT5 is the worse thing anybody can do. ALot of these websites get paid. Or are what i like to call Jaded gamers they have a certain amount of time and deadlines they have to meet wich in my opinion skews there veiws. It might be better to find a car nut freind that buys it first and get a honest reveiw of the game that way. I never trust reveiws I watch them or reed them just for info on the game and game footage.

Try inside sim racing, those guy's actually use a wheel to test on.
I'm very surprised how many reviewers never mention a wheel.

Hope that helps.👍
 
Try inside sim racing, those guy's actually use a wheel to test on.
I'm very surprised how many reviewers never mention a wheel.

Hope that helps.👍
That's probably because most people who buy the game will be casual gamers who use a pad. I know a larger proportion of people on here will use a wheel, but that's a given.
 
That's probably because most people who buy the game will be casual gamers who use a pad. I know a larger proportion of people on here will use a wheel, but that's a given.

I agree on that, seems a pity though. I not knocking pad users, wheels are expensive and a hassle to set up. That's why I look to ISR for a review.
 
I suppose if I had to venture a guess, every review will deal GT5 one or two legitimate kicks to the nuts, but almost all of them will probably rate it an 83-89% at the end of the day. somewhere in the B to B+ range.

I'm looking forward to Inside Sim Racing and the Classic Game Room.
I suspect neither of them got a review copy, so we'll have to wait on them.

What will GT5 be judged against? GT4? Forza 3? or Prologue?
Prologue got fairly high scores, and GT5 is much more than it is.
Or will it be judged entirely by what it is without comparison?
 
i really dont see gt5 getting no more then a 8.5 at best ... Those ugly Standard Car's kinda killed gt5 .. in so many ways it not even funny... and yes im still getting gt5 cause at least the DODGE VIPER srt 10 coupe is a premium Car :bowdown:

Yes im a srt 10 coupe Fanboy
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If its benchmarked again Forza... Thats bad. On paper, they are more locations and more cars that come with a normal copy of Forza out the box a year ago. The 'premium' vs a Forza 3 car detail is irrelevent. They'd use the same words to explain both. The saddest thing is that Forza through Dlc already has the SLS Amg and many many cars that are premium on GT5. Reviewers gave Forza 90's, they'll give GT5 85's :( . To me, Forza still feels generic and has a lack of polish. GT5.. is looking unfinished.
 
i really dont see gt5 getting no more then a 8.5 at best ... Those ugly Standard Car's kinda killed gt5 .. in so many ways it not even funny... and yes im still getting gt5 cause at least the DODGE VIPER srt 10 coupe is a premium Car :bowdown:

The standards look fine. You won't notice the flaws so much when they're in motion. In any case they look about as good as the Forza cars. Lack of customization will hurt, but I don't think that will bring it below a 9.
 
I'd say 75-85 average.....the car list is a joke, sorry....Its time to move on. Yes JDM used to be great, and yes its always been fun to modify JDM cars...in the early 2000's. This is 2010!! TWO THOUSAND AND TEN! JDM cars are....well, lame to say the least. We've spent the last decade modifying cars from the golden age of JDM, why the **** would you spend six years developing a game around that SAME concept. Been there, done that.

-No E30 M3 (FAIL)
-No premium Aston Martin's, or even the DBS (FAIL)
-No Porsche, No Premium RUF! (SUPER FAIL)
-No Koenigsegg (UBER FAIL)
-No premium road-going Pagani (EXTREME FAIL)
-No road going Diablo, Countach isn't premium?! (SMH)
-No F430 Scudera (WTF)
-The Veyron is standard, and the SS isn't even in the game!

On a more affordable note...

-No RS5, CTS-V, GT500, Bentley CGT....I can go on for a while...

Not only that, but 90% of the JDM cars are standard!! Seriously?!

And the cars that are Premium are a joke except for a handful...Its a shame really, all the hype I had for this game is pretty much gone. The new NFS will give me my racing fix, even if it is an absurd arcade game...

This sums up my feelings about what ive seen of the game so far too :(
Im propably going to buy it though, but im disappointed. Kaz says its the perfect game, i dont think it is yet.


Sounds like a lot of bitchin' you might as well just say "It's not Forza."


And the F430 Scuderia is in.
 
Looks like a lot of people will get a pleasant surprise when the reviews come in and it's 9's and 10's across the board :)
 
If its benchmarked again Forza... Thats bad. On paper, they are more locations and more cars that come with a normal copy of Forza out the box a year ago. The 'premium' vs a Forza 3 car detail is irrelevent. They'd use the same words to explain both. The saddest thing is that Forza through Dlc already has the SLS Amg and many many cars that are premium on GT5. Reviewers gave Forza 90's, they'll give GT5 85's :( . To me, Forza still feels generic and has a lack of polish. GT5.. is looking unfinished.

Right... I don't think so. GT5 has karting, NASCAR, superGT, and rally. It has weather and day/night cycles. The graphics are far superior. The physics are far superior.

Forza wins when it comes to how well spread out their car list is and the number of tracks but reviewers will be flashing over 1,000 cars everywhere. A lot of us hard core GT fans gripe about the little stuff such as pet peeves with the car and track list but for the casual gamer GT5's content is far more appealing than FM3. I suspect it will get very good reviews.
 
I hate all of you people who complain. I don't understand it; you knew exactly what you were getting in terms of cars, and you were fine with that until you got the release date, and instantly all we're seeing is "GT5 is unfinished, it will not get graded well and I'm so disappointed in this game."

You all need to listen to yourselves. You haven't played the game, you haven't experienced the content, you haven't driven the cars; yet you're all letting yourselves be ruled by such tiny little things that it makes me wonder how any of you go through life not appreciating ANYTHING. 'Cause if you can't appreciate the monumental amount of work PD has done for you all, nothing will please you.

GT5 may not get absolutely perfect reviews, that is possible. But to say that it'll get seventies over such inconsequential "shortcomings" is just adrenaline-ruled fanboyism.
 
You won't notice the flaws so much when they're in motion.
Unless you try to use the cockpit view. Or try to change the rims. Or try to use them in Photo Travel.

I don't understand it; you knew exactly what you were getting in terms of cars
No we didn't. We knew there would be Standards. We knew (give or take) how they would look. We knew what they would entail in regards to graphics and damage. And we knew (though many were in denial) that they would be lacking in certain areas (like cockpit views).

We did not know how much padding they would have (in fact, what we actually ended up with in the final game was typically viewed as the worst case scenario back when we were simply guessing at the car list). We did not know that they would be lacking functionality that they originally had back when they were new. We did not know that they would be locked out of entire game modes.
 
over such inconsequential "shortcomings" is just adrenaline-ruled fanboyism.


That's you opinion though. After 6 years of hype, the reviews may end up being very tough on this game, and whatever may be inconsequential to you may be a bigger deal to someone else.

It's entirely possible that some people will give this game 7's and 8's. To think that is out of the question is just silly. Many reviewers are expecting something from this game after so many years of waiting that no racing sim could ever deliver on.

People are expecting to be able to go into these cars, look at the engines, perform oil changes yourself. Some people are actually expecting that of this game, and the truth is this is GT4 in HD with some more cars and some more features, that's all it is, it's another sequel, and I think some reviews are going to be very hard on it.
 
I'm willing to bet GT5 will be rated 95+... Look at the competition. We at GTP might have been hoping for a 110 deserving game, but that's not realistic. The new NFS game received a 9.0 from IGN. If GT5 receives equal or less, I'll vomit. But, I highly doubt it.
 
All people are talking about standard cars, tracks, damage and 2D trees, but noone thinks about the gameplay...
That's the problem everywhere and that's just sad.
 
i hate all of you people who complain. I don't understand it; you knew exactly what you were getting in terms of cars, and you were fine with that until you got the release date, and instantly all we're seeing is "gt5 is unfinished, it will not get graded well and i'm so disappointed in this game."

you all need to listen to yourselves. You haven't played the game, you haven't experienced the content, you haven't driven the cars; yet you're all letting yourselves be ruled by such tiny little things that it makes me wonder how any of you go through life not appreciating anything. 'cause if you can't appreciate the monumental amount of work pd has done for you all, nothing will please you.

Gt5 may not get absolutely perfect reviews, that is possible. But to say that it'll get seventies over such inconsequential "shortcomings" is just adrenaline-ruled fanboyism.

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Couldn´t have said it better.
 
So are there any reviews out yet?

I suppose we all need something to talk about in the meantime. Man, this forum's going to be a ghost-town next week. Either that or PMS overload.

It'll probably take me a few hours of playtime before I'm able to devise my list of pros and cons based on my expectations. Mine aren't as high as some people's, but to each his/her own. I want solid physics, beautiful visuals, and good challenges. I'm not really buying a coloring or sticker book so I don't care too much about the visual customization options. Performance mods would be very welcome though.
 
That's you opinion though. After 6 years of hype, the reviews may end up being very tough on this game, and whatever may be inconsequential to you may be a bigger deal to someone else.

It's entirely possible that some people will give this game 7's and 8's. To think that is out of the question is just silly. Many reviewers are expecting something from this game after so many years of waiting that no racing sim could ever deliver on.

People are expecting to be able to go into these cars, look at the engines, perform oil changes yourself. Some people are actually expecting that of this game, and the truth is this is GT4 in HD with some more cars and some more features, that's all it is, it's another sequel, and I think some reviews are going to be very hard on it.
Being an old, wise gamer i've learn't reviews mean absolutely sod all. Take for example the recently released F1 2010. How on earth the bugs were missed by the reviewers is beyond me.

I can think of many games that recieved rave reviews and yet in my opinion were very disappointing. I may sound paranoid but I honestly believe something dodgy goes on with some of these reviews!

I will add I have no proof of this and is merely my opinion based on my own experiences!
 
All people are talking about standard cars, tracks, damage and 2D trees, but noone thinks about the gameplay...
That's the problem everywhere and that's just sad.

You'll be driving a car around a track ;) There we go, gameplay considered :p

To me, the gameplay will be all about the physics and force feedback implementation, not something that can really be discussed well until we get our hands on the game. After that AI, again hard to judge until you're playing it. We can see from vids the AI is capable of overtaking and stuff, but its not until you play it can you figure out how well it operates in packs, how quickly it can corner while simultaneously avoiding another car, etc.
 
All people are talking about standard cars, tracks, damage and 2D trees, but noone thinks about the gameplay...
That's the problem everywhere and that's just sad.

I have a hunch its because its nothing special. Not even PD has touted gameplay other than its supposedly better than GT5:P. Some details would be nice. What are they using for a tire model? Will the tires react properly to loads? How does it handle once you go over the maximum slip of the tires? How does wear work?

Then again, the reviewers are not race car drivers so its basically if they think its good, and easy usually means good. Look at need for speed.
 
When should we expect reviews to start coming in? I was thinking may the end of this week. What are your thoughts?
 
That's you opinion though. After 6 years of hype, the reviews may end up being very tough on this game, and whatever may be inconsequential to you may be a bigger deal to someone else.

It's entirely possible that some people will give this game 7's and 8's. To think that is out of the question is just silly. Many reviewers are expecting something from this game after so many years of waiting that no racing sim could ever deliver on.

People are expecting to be able to go into these cars, look at the engines, perform oil changes yourself. Some people are actually expecting that of this game, and the truth is this is GT4 in HD with some more cars and some more features, that's all it is, it's another sequel, and I think some reviews are going to be very hard on it.

That's the big problem here; a game should not be reviewed based on your own expectations. It should be reviewed based on its own merits, regardless of what you expected. A game that has 5X more content than the next sim, at a quality level far beyond most racing games should not be reviewed lower just because we wanted more from an already astronomical achievement.

That's like saying your toaster sucks because it won't toss your salad. Similarly, a game should not be judged on what YOU want it to do; rather, it should be judged on what it does as its own separate, unique entity, unbound by expectations. GT5 should be graded on its own merits, not what we WANT it to be.
 
That's the big problem here; a game should not be reviewed based on your own expectations. It should be reviewed based on its own merits, regardless of what you expected. A game that has 5X more content than the next sim, at a quality level far beyond most racing games should not be reviewed lower just because we wanted more from an already astronomical achievement.

That's like saying your toaster sucks because it won't toss your salad. Similarly, a game should not be judged on what YOU want it to do; rather, it should be judged on what it does as its own separate, unique entity, unbound by expectations. GT5 should be graded on its own merits, not what we WANT it to be.

I agree completely. I'm sick of everyone pissing and moaning that it's going to get a 70% for inconsistencies like only having 200+ cars that are detailed more in depth than any other game ever produced... :crazy:
 
I've had my moans about this game, but i still think it would rank in the 9/10, 95% upwards in terms of quality. I'm surprised by that list of marks posted in the first post, personally i thought GT4 was the best one, followed by GT2 by quite some margin.

As a racing game fan, a hardcore motorsport fan i think i can probably value my own judgements alot more than any review i read online. And i think that should be the same for all true fans of racing.
 
That's the big problem here; a game should not be reviewed based on your own expectations. It should be reviewed based on its own merits, regardless of what you expected. A game that has 5X more content than the next sim, at a quality level far beyond most racing games should not be reviewed lower just because we wanted more from an already astronomical achievement.

That's like saying your toaster sucks because it won't toss your salad. Similarly, a game should not be judged on what YOU want it to do; rather, it should be judged on what it does as its own separate, unique entity, unbound by expectations. GT5 should be graded on its own merits, not what we WANT it to be.

I know what you're saying, but that's just not the way it is. Games are usually reviewed on what people expect them to be able to do. If the game doesnt deliver that well then it's going to get knocked for it.

I have no doubt that while reviewers may praise the weather or day/night features, they will be quick to mention how they are limited to only a few tracks.

They will talk about the gameplay itself, which of course really has not changed very much since GT4. Reviewers will say things like "I was expecting the game to let me do this, and it didnt". Same thing with the premium cars, you know reviews are going to knock that one, especially if they love cockpit view.

If that's your favorite view, the fact is a direct competitors game which I wont mention since people get all upset, has twice as many cars with cockpit view. Well how do you explain this when there was 6 years between this and your last game?

Im sure it will get many 9's, but my point is I would not be shocked to see some 8's or even a few 7's.
 
I know what you're saying, but that's just not the way it is. Games are usually reviewed on what people expect them to be able to do. If the game doesnt deliver that well then it's going to get knocked for it.

I have no doubt that while reviewers may praise the weather or day/night features, they will be quick to mention how they are limited to only a few tracks.

They will talk about the gameplay itself, which of course really has not changed very much since GT4. Reviewers will say things like "I was expecting the game to let me do this, and it didnt". Same thing with the premium cars, you know reviews are going to knock that one, especially if they love cockpit view.

If that's your favorite view, the fact is a direct competitors game which I wont mention since people get all upset, has twice as many cars with cockpit view. Well how do you explain this when there was 6 years between this and your last game?

Im sure it will get many 9's, but my point is I would not be shocked to see some 8's or even a few 7's.

Yes, I can see what could happen. However, the game has so many other redeeming qualities that I can't see reviewers being too distraught over things like that. GT5 includes rally, NASCAR, Top Gear and karting, in addition to the tried and true GT gameplay. If that combination doesn't win hearts, nothing will.
 
Right... I don't think so. GT5 has karting, NASCAR, superGT, and rally. It has weather and day/night cycles. The graphics are far superior. The physics are far superior.

Forza wins when it comes to how well spread out their car list is and the number of tracks but reviewers will be flashing over 1,000 cars everywhere. A lot of us hard core GT fans gripe about the little stuff such as pet peeves with the car and track list but for the casual gamer GT5's content is far more appealing than FM3. I suspect it will get very good reviews.

we don't know about the physics yet (I've heard good things from GT fans and bad things from FM fans, nothing from an unbiased, knowledgable source yet), FM has NASCAR (albeit without the license) and superGT, too, but, while they don't have rally and weather/day/night cycles, they do have a larger variety of customisation features, 500 cars modeled with modern technologies (they aren't anywhere near the quality of the premiums, but far, far better than the standards), and, most of all, a far shorter production schedule (meaning that more games can come out in less time), so, while you may prefer what GT5 has to offer, some reviewers may not.
 
I hate all of you people who complain. I don't understand it; you knew exactly what you were getting in terms of cars, and you were fine with that until you got the release date, and instantly all we're seeing is "GT5 is unfinished, it will not get graded well and I'm so disappointed in this game."

You are making some very blanket statements that directly contradict your GT defending bretheren... we knew? As in every last one of us? I will remind you we were routinely told we didn't know and should wait to find out and those of us who were sure enough to "know" weren't ever fine with it.

What you are seeing is the people who either didn't know or were in denial, realizing and then being unhappy about it. If they were fine with them before, it's only becuase they didn't know what was coming or they weren't admitting what was coming...

The defense and apologist groups around here consistenly take on whatever view best suits the situation at the moment ignoring the true history...

When the Forzas launched, the GT fans were quick to point out where they failed and how GT would never fail that way and would be perfection in a bottle.

Then when details started leaking that things might not be all roses, we were told it's unreasonable to expect more than what we were getting, we don't know how hard it is to make a great game like GT!

Then when things started to look really questionable like 80% of the game is just standard cars, it became a big mess of no knowing exactly how bad they would bee, and that direct feed video wasn't good enough to see the details and maybe everything was an old build and just wait till the next game show, you would see, KY is a perfectionist!

Now we are all stupid and crybabies for being unhappy about the very stuff we were told wasn't any reason to be unhappy about because it wasn't going to be true... and on top of it all now excuses about how hard it is to do something, what GT is really ABOUT and how physics is more important than graphics so standards being ugly doesn't matter (however premiums being pretty is unquestionably awesome).

It's like a little mobius strip... over time we just go round and round.
 
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