GT5 Review scores (Update :Average metacritic score)

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Devedander
You know, there is a theory... if people complain a lot... maybe they are just complainers... then there is another theory... if people complain a lot...

Maybe there is are a lot of things complaint worthy.
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No I reckon some are just complaining for the sake of it.

Take for example when the track/car list was announced. I instantly looked at what GT5 has to offer whereas some people instantly looked to see what was missing.

I can guarantee if PD included all the cars/tracks that members are requesting they would only turn round and say so and so is missing. Some of the people on here will never be satisfied and poor old Kazunori could spend the next 20yrs developing GT5 and some muppet would only turn round and and say something is missing.

One thing I have learn't from life is you can never please everyone. What PD have done will delight the majority of those buying GT5 and the majority of the sales will not come from those posting on this site. This site is excellent with many members but its still only a tiny percentage of those who will buy GT5.
 
As I'm not really much of a video gamer (I only play Gran Turismo games) what are the web's best video game websites that I should be on the lookout for reviews of GT5?
 
I'm suspecting an average of around 90%. I guessing that it will have a higher score than GT4 does, but I'm not expecting GT3 numbers.

phhsdiego
As I'm not really much of a video gamer (I only play Gran Turismo games) what are the web's best video game websites that I should be on the lookout for reviews of GT5?
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Games Radar. Gamespot. IGN. The latter two are terrible with a sizable portion of their reviews, but for major games like GT5 they usually put out really nice work.
 
II IVORBIGUN II
No I reckon some are just complaining for the sake of it.

Take for example when the track/car list was announced. I instantly looked at what GT5 has to offer whereas some people instantly looked to see what was missing.

I can guarantee if PD included all the cars/tracks that members are requesting they would only turn round and say so and so is missing. Some of the people on here will never be satisfied and poor old Kazunori could spend the next 20yrs developing GT5 and some muppet would only turn round and and say something is missing.

One thing I have learn't from life is you can never please everyone. What PD have done will delight the majority of those buying GT5 and the majority of the sales will not come from those posting on this site. This site is excellent with many members but its still only a tiny percentage of those who will buy GT5.
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Definitely. That's the problem with developing a game this hardcore, you're trying to please a hardcore audience. They're gonna dig deep into the game and pick out every tiny flaw they can find. None of this stuff matters in the slightest for something like Burnout Paradise, yet it remains a fantastic game. Too many people are failing to recognize just how much work PD have put into this thing. Yes, there are cars missing and yes, even more tracks would be lovely, but ignoring that the quality is staggering and I wouldn't hesitate at all to pick this up over Forza 3.
 
Is this a GT forum or did I take a wrong turn into a Forza forum?

Now I feel out of place as a newcomer.

Well, I think GT5 will score high aggregately, depending on how nit-picky critics are going to be (if their as nit-picky as some of you, then GT is in real trouble). Despite expectations being sky-high, the effort is there, as it reads on paper. Just think about how much content has been stuffed into this game, and I'm sure GT5 will be no less than astonishing and mesmerizing to play (and as far as I'm concerned, where there is GT, there is also substance). Putting it the way some of you do, I don't know why you'd even consider purchasing this game.
 
II IVORBIGUN II
No I reckon some are just complaining for the sake of it.

Take for example when the track/car list was announced. I instantly looked at what GT5 has to offer whereas some people instantly looked to see what was missing.

I can guarantee if PD included all the cars/tracks that members are requesting they would only turn round and say so and so is missing. Some of the people on here will never be satisfied and poor old Kazunori could spend the next 20yrs developing GT5 and some muppet would only turn round and and say something is missing.

One thing I have learn't from life is you can never please everyone. What PD have done will delight the majority of those buying GT5 and the majority of the sales will not come from those posting on this site. This site is excellent with many members but its still only a tiny percentage of those who will buy GT5.
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While you are right, in almomst any circumstance someone would complain... I mean if you had every car but one, the guy who drove that car would probably be sad.

But you also can't just call it black and white and act as if anyone complaining is simply proof that someone would always complain... I mean do you honestly think there is no area for which legitimate complaint exists?

If GT5 came out with 5 cars and 2 tracks would you say "well no matter what SOMEONES gonna commplain"? What bout 6 cars and 3 tracks? 7 cars an 4 tracks?

See the problem is you are falsely using an absolute to blanket any possible situation except the one impossible one no one would complain.

You have denied every situation save one being legitimate by writing it off in the group of "no matter what someone would be dissapointed".

The track list dissapoints me far more than the car list and honestly I don't think it's at all unreasonable or a case of "would complain about anything". When it's missing a huge number of unlicensed fantasy tracks that have been in the GT series for generations I don't think that's at all a case of "would complain about anything".

So, I am sorry, but I can't accept that rational as a logical argument... absolutism has no place in the real world.

Red_9
I cannot believe the idiocy in this thread. We have to look at GT5 for its own merits, rather than judging it based purely off of our individual expectations. On its own merits, GT5 is an astounding achievement for a racing game; let me go through this quickly:

-Includes rally racing No actual point to point rally style races - multiple cars on track at once
-includes kart racing - 1 100cc kart
-includes NASCAR Not enough to fill an entire 16 person race and only 2 nascar tracks - no infineon :(
-includes track generator 4 landscapes and limited to 10 km, no point to point
-day/night and weather transitions on 3 tracks
-a dedicated drift mode
-a comprehensive campaign mode, as GT always has PSP didn't and we know very little about what it contains in gt5 still
-online and splitscreen support I dont know that that's really special
-regardless of the premium/standard argument, GT still has 1000+ cars Not when you start striking duplicates or very similar cars
-some of the most detailed tracks in a racing game (and I maintain that the given tracklist is incorrect; the Test Track oval isn't on it, therefore is incorrect). "some of" - but noteably missing quite a few also
-A/B-spec modes; regardless of how useless you think that is, there WILL be people who use it.
-driving schools for the various racing styles (ie NASCAR, rally racing)
-overturns and damage are included, regardless of how many are truly affected Yet to really see in action and a pretty common feature now

I could go on about how many great things are included in this game, yet you all here seem to have your heads so far up your own butts that you're ignoring just how much PD is giving you.

And some of you say 7/10...really, people, grow up. You will ALL buy it, and I guarantee you will ALL think it's a great game.
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I am not saying GT5 doesn't have all those things, but it's important to look past the bullet points to see what they really entail... there is a Chinese Buffet near my house with over 100 items. 60 of them are desserts and of those 60, 20 are those tube shaped cookies differentiated only by the striped flavor down the side.

Almost any game can be hyped and bullet pointed into sound uber awesome... but what it truly is is what counts.
 
phhsdiego
As I'm not really much of a video gamer (I only play Gran Turismo games) what are the web's best video game websites that I should be on the lookout for reviews of GT5?
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Metacritic keeps a list and average of major game review scores.
 
Averagely, I think it will get a 9.2 out of 10. It may be inconsistent and "old" here and there but content, gameplay, technical performance and aesthetics will hopefully make it stand out as a unique piece of gaming history.
 
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-Includes rally racing No actual point to point rally style races - multiple cars on track at once There are randomly generated point to point for all rally events
-includes kart racing - 1 100cc kart
-includes NASCAR Not enough to fill an entire 16 person race and only 2 nascar tracks - no infineon
-includes track generator 4 landscapes and limited to 10 km, no point to point There are 7 landscapes and there is point to point.
-day/night and weather transitions on 3 tracks That we've seen so far.
-a dedicated drift mode
-a comprehensive campaign mode, as GT always has PSP didn't and we know very little about what it contains in gt5 still We've seen a video showing some of the career, and it appears to be about the same as past GT's.
-online and splitscreen support I dont know that that's really special
-regardless of the premium/standard argument, GT still has 1000+ cars Not when you start striking duplicates or very similar cars
-some of the most detailed tracks in a racing game (and I maintain that the given tracklist is incorrect; the Test Track oval isn't on it, therefore is incorrect). "some of" - but noteably missing quite a few also
-A/B-spec modes; regardless of how useless you think that is, there WILL be people who use it.
-driving schools for the various racing styles (ie NASCAR, rally racing)
-overturns and damage are included, regardless of how many are truly affected Yet to really see in action and a pretty common feature now
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I've highlighted what you got wrong Devedander, Get your facts straight please.
 
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i'd say 16, 17 max.

judging by the time of development & what the game actually offers..

It just looks like the game is not finished. Think about :
Premium vs Standard
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Weather & Time transition extremely limited


And FYI, I still hope for new information or some kind of surprise regarding the tracklist & carlist.. it's just surreal to have so little after so much wait.


So yeah, for now, 16/20
 
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toMsonsLLC
It's not looking good for GT5, the leaked car and track list makes me want to vomit. I don't know what to think anymore. My hype-ometer is lack luster at best. Doesn't even sound as good as Forza 3 on paper anymore. 200 premium cars, Forza 3 did 400... They also released two games in the same time span. For the games review sake, I hope hardcore GT fans don't review it like myself, or its META score will be in the realm of GT4.
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Go somewhere else like the emo complaing thread. if you like FOrza go play it
 
Red_9
I cannot believe the idiocy in this thread. We have to look at GT5 for its own merits, rather than judging it based purely off of our individual expectations. On its own merits, GT5 is an astounding achievement for a racing game; let me go through this quickly:

I could go on about how many great things are included in this game, yet you all here seem to have your heads so far up your own butts that you're ignoring just how much PD is giving you.

And some of you say 7/10...really, people, grow up. You will ALL buy it, and I guarantee you will ALL think it's a great game.
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Some mans turd is another mans treasure! Why don't you wait until you own it, play it and live it before passing your final judgement... oh and everyone is entitled to their opinion be it negative or positive... it's called freedom of speech.
 
DarthTurismo
Some mans turd is another mans treasure! Why don't you wait until you own it, play it and live it before passing your final judgement... oh and everyone is entitled to their opinion be it negative or positive... it's called freedom of speech.
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An opinion can only be taken seriously when it's based off of facts and isn't irrationally based off of spur-of-the-moment emo-hate. Which is what you're all doing right now.

The amount of complaining is both unwarranted and overreactive. This game packs in more than any other racing game, and some of you are calling it mediocre already!
 
Red_9
An opinion can only be taken seriously when it's based off of facts and isn't irrationally based off of spur-of-the-moment emo-hate. Which is what you're all doing right now.

The amount of complaining is both unwarranted and overreactive. This game packs in more than any other racing game, and some of you are calling it mediocre already!
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Very well said sir.👍

Some people are never happy.
 
TheDrummingKING
I've highlighted what you got wrong Devedander, Get your facts straight please.
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Sorry, didn't see the recent Track Editor video... you will forgive me I think it got posted only a few hours before I made my post so hand't got round to see tekkens video yet.

Good to see ther are 7 total but I thought from before it was revealed they were the same areas just one was dirt and one was tarmac?

So am I behind on the rally also in there are point to point rally style races where you are the only car on track?

I am not sure how I got the 3 maps with weather wrong... I mean it even satisfies the die hard "it's official direclty from PD" rule... and as for Career mode I like what I have seen so far but still really don't know that much about it and how it will play out.
 
Devedander
Sorry, didn't see the recent Track Editor video... you will forgive me I think it got posted only a few hours before I made my post so hand't got round to see tekkens video yet.

Good to see ther are 7 total but I thought from before it was revealed they were the same areas just one was dirt and one was tarmac?

So am I behind on the rally also in there are point to point rally style races where you are the only car on track?

I am not sure how I got the 3 maps with weather wrong... I mean it even satisfies the die hard "it's official direclty from PD" rule... and as for Career mode I like what I have seen so far but still really don't know that much about it and how it will play out.
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To be honest I really only scanned over the track list, does it say if there is weather/ day to night on them? If it does I appologize for that.
 
I'm not really sure why people want weather and day/night transition on every track. I was under the impression that they were included to add realism to endurance races and/or as a visual novelty. For serious racing (which is what you'll want to be doing most of the time), I'm pretty sure that it would be preferable for the track to be dry and visibility to be at maximum...
 
TheDrummingKING
To be honest I really only scanned over the track list, does it say if there is weather/ day to night on them? If it does I appologize for that.
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Yes the official track list shows weather and time which I take to mean day/night. I was referring to the Day/night thing though which is only on 3 tracks. Weather I believe is on 7 or 8 tracks.

OkeyD
I'm not really sure why people want weather and day/night transition on every track. I was under the impression that they were included to add realism to endurance races and/or as a visual novelty. For serious racing (which is what you'll want to be doing most of the time), I'm pretty sure that it would be preferable for the track to be dry and visibility to be at maximum...
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It's certainly preferable in terms of time and safety, but races happen in different weather conditions and they provide an added challenge so it's good that the option is there to represent those circumstances... I think it could rain pretty much anywhere on a race day no?
 
Devedander
Yes the official track list shows weather and time which I take to mean day/night. I was referring to the Day/night thing though which is only on 3 tracks. Weather I believe is on 7 or 8 tracks.
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According to the Gamespot news article, 11 tracks have weather and 5 have day/night. I generally don't listen to GS when it comes to reviews but I dunno how accurate their news info is.
 
:/ I hope they dont look at whats missing and then say it needs more polish, or whatever. Infact, I wont look, read any reviews until Ive played the game myself and tried everything. I always think, back in GT1 days, I was 11. I just walked into the store and gambled and took GT1. It was my opinion, not a review. Those days money was tight in my family also, no joke a game a year at times, GT was that game for me. Reviews often guide peoples thoughts and opinions before a game releases, we honestly waited too long for this game to have it ruined.
 
KilzoneStrife
:/ I hope they dont look at whats missing and then say it needs more polish, or whatever. Infact, I wont look, read any reviews until Ive played the game myself and tried everything. I always think, back in GT1 days, I was 11. I just walked into the store and gambled and took GT1. It was my opinion, not a review. Those days money was tight in my family also, no joke a game a year at times, GT was that game for me. Reviews often guide peoples thoughts and opinions before a game releases, we honestly waited too long for this game to have it ruined.
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I remember the good old days where we bought games based on what WE wanted, and weren't swayed by some random stranger on the internet who has no real qualification to be doing what they're doing.

GT1 was the best investment I ever made back on PS1.
 
Red_9
I remember the good old days where we bought games based on what WE wanted, and weren't swayed by some random stranger on the internet who has no real qualification to be doing what they're doing.

GT1 was the best investment I ever made back on PS1.
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I didnt even know who Kaz was lol . Yes..we let the media dictate to us now and forget reviewers are people. People could sway reviews in either directions for money. People that, if in the past, hated on a brand, would show it in the review. The chances of biased reviews are always in the picture. By default, people just cannot be impartial. Its good or bad. The problem is that in most cases, reviewers base those reviews on their initial judgement and build from there. If they follow GT5.. and personally look at whats been taken out since GT4.. their going to come down on it. They need to review whats there. Still...I miss the old days. Felt more honest and real going by gut feel.. AND.. the packaging :D ,adds to the joy of reading the manual on the drive back home.
 

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