GT5 Tuner Village?

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Fair enough wanting to post every drift car ever but my idea of a "tuner" isn't a bunch of people producing a single car to do a single type of motorsport. @ STJ88 - for example, you told whoever posted the Skodas above that they weren't really tuner cars... well they're designed solely for rallying, in the same way all of these drift cars above are designed solely for drifting... so I'm failing to see how the drift cars count and the rally ones don't?

My idea of a tuner is a company like Nismo, or Mugen, or Alpina, or Brabus, or the Hamann that 91hondawagon posted etc...they make a range of tuned cars (not race specials, which is basically what drift cars are) and they manufacture their own parts for all of them, their own engine mods, their own suspension, custom interiors etc.

The difference is a rally car, isn't streat legal. And isn't made by a tuner, but by a manufacturer. And most Japanese tuner cars are purpose made, so for drift, time-attack, wangan, touge or drag. And Kazama auto doen't make a single car, they make losts of cars. And Sumo power has, cars for almost all purposes, like drift, drag and time-attack.

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Sumo power time attack evo IX

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Kazama S15.

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And my favorite tuner car ever, the top secret V12 supra
 
The difference is a rally car, isn't streat legal. And isn't made by a tuner, but by a manufacturer. And most Japanese tuner cars are purpose made, so for drift, time-attack, wangan, touge or drag. And Kazama auto doen't make a single car, they make losts of cars. And Sumo power has, cars for almost all purposes, like drift, drag and time-attack.

You what?

1) Rally cars are street legal
2) They aren't necessarily made by a manufacturer. Prodrive does the Subaru rally cars for example.
3) You've just confirmed what I said, those tuner cars you've posted are for one application - racing. They're race cars, and for me a tuner car isn't a purpose built race car, otherwise that's no different from any other race car, or rally car.
4) Kazama auto may make many cars, but they're all for the same purpose. Do they make any road cars or just track stuff?

You're just posting an endless selection of race cars, which are mostly irrelevant to anyone not into drifting or time attacks. I don't mean to say they aren't good cars, but try asking the average car enthusiast if they've heard of the Kazama Silvia XXREE3333XX-12345 and chances are they wouldn't have a clue what it was. If you said "BRABUS Rocket" to them they probably would.

Don't get me wrong, I'm always interested to hear of new cars but at the moment there seems to be one thread after another of "cars you'd like to see in GT5" and every one of them ends up being full of every car ever, which makes the thread pointless. You may as well have a list of thousands of cars that nobody's heard of.
 
1) Rally cars are street legal

You can't drive a WRC impreza on the street. You realy think a car with a Anti-Lag System is road legal.

You're just posting an endless selection of race cars, which are mostly irrelevant to anyone not into drifting or time attacks. I don't mean to say they aren't good cars, but try asking the average car enthusiast if they've heard of the Kazama Silvia XXREE3333XX-12345 and chances are they wouldn't have a clue what it was. If you said "BRABUS Rocket" to them they probably would.

Every JDM fan knowswhat Kazama auto is, and there is no reason why i can't post them here. And all good JDM tuner cars are purpose built, what do you thing the spoon EK, spoon integra DC2, Mine's R34, Mine's evo VI and Amuse GT1 were from GT4. Time-attack cars. Its the stupidest thing i ever heard, I't ain't a Tuner car if its purpose built.:lol:

Go tell that to Top secret or Mine's.
 
You can't drive a WRC impreza on the street. You realy think a car with a Anti-Lag System is road legal.

Of course you can, otherwise they wouldn't be able to get from stage to stage ON THE ROADS :rolleyes: The cars are entirely road legal. If you knew about the sport you'd know that they turn off the anti-lag and have an electronic setting which they engage on the roads to make the cars more docile.

Every JDM fan knowswhat Kazama auto is, and there is no reason why i can't post them here. And all good JDM tuner cars are purpose built, what do you thing the spoon EK, spoon integra DC2, Mine's R34, Mine's evo VI and Amuse GT1 were from GT4. Time-attack cars. Its the stupidest thing i ever heard, I't ain't a Tuner car if its purpose built.:lol:

Go tell that to Top secret or Mine's.

Don't twist around what I said to fit your opinion. Tuners can make race cars, but I see a tuner car as a car, tuned by a company, for use on the road. Not a purpose built race car. Otherwise using that logic you could call any production car-based race car a 'tuner' car. A Touring Car is a car, which has been tuned by a company. Therefore I could claim it's a tuner car. But it isn't, it's a race car.

And don't take my lines out of context either. Of course a Spoon EK is purpose built, so is a milk float, what I said, and I quote, was:

purpose built race car

Also, don't patronise me. I'm a fan of many JDM cars but I'm not a Japanese motorsport fanboy, so no I haven't heard of Kazama auto until you posted that comment.

Finally, I have no problem with you posting whatever car you want here, but I refer back to my last comment:

Don't get me wrong, I'm always interested to hear of new cars but at the moment there seems to be one thread after another of "cars you'd like to see in GT5" and every one of them ends up being full of every car ever, which makes the thread pointless. You may as well have a list of thousands of cars that nobody's heard of.

If you'd read this, you could see that all I was suggesting was that posting every single road and track modified car ever is a boring way to make a thread. People have no opinions on a vast majority of cars, so just posting a list of cars that only two of you have heard of won't get much of a response.
 
A very cool S2000, this car is being owned by Ben Schaffer from Bulletproofautomotive, he is the importer of some very exclusive and wanted parts in the US.

The car has a mix of bodyparts from different Japanese tuners like:
-Tracy Sports
-Powerhouse Amuse
-Top Secret
-Spoon Sports

Each tuner delivered parts that Ben modified to make his S2000 a true one off example.

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Honda S2000 [AP1] Coupe Ben schaffer’s Edition '08

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Don't twist around what I said to fit your opinion. Tuners can make race cars, but I see a tuner car as a car, tuned by a company, for use on the road. Not a purpose built race car. Otherwise using that logic you could call any production car-based race car a 'tuner' car. A Touring Car is a car, which has been tuned by a company. Therefore I could claim it's a tuner car. But it isn't, it's a race car.

And don't take my lines out of context either. Of course a Spoon EK is purpose built, so is a milk float, what I said, and I quote, was:

Then you better call PD, and fast. Tell them to pull all those cars from the tuner village. Because they will look pretty stupid calling a Mine's R34 or Amuse GT1 a tuner car.:D

two of you have heard of won't get much of a response.

Before GT1 most of the people didn't know what a skyline or impreza was. But now some of those people even drive them because of PD.

Of course you can, otherwise they wouldn't be able to get from stage to stage ON THE ROADS

A WRC car will never pas a MOT.
 
Then you better call PD, and fast. Tell them to pull all those cars from the tuner village. Because they will look pretty stupid calling a Mine's R34 or Amuse GT1 a tuner car.:D

Sarcasm! Didn't think you had it in you :rolleyes:

Since when did I deny they were tuner cars? What you'll see if you read more carefully is that the cars you are posting in this thread are just race cars. I would prefer to see actual tuner cars, that you could buy for the road, in this thread. Not just a bunch of race cars designed for a particular series.

Before GT1 most of the people didn't know what a skyline or impreza was. But now some of those people even drive them because of PD.

I'm well aware of that. I'm also aware that without GT then countries like the US may never have received Imprezas and Evos etc. But that point is largely irrelevant to this discussion, because it's not like all of a sudden the whole world is going to start wanting to buy drift cars and the like.

A WRC car will never pas a MOT.

Please please please stop talking out of your bottom. A WRC car is FULLY ROAD LEGAL. It will pass an MOT because it conforms to all the criteria. What bit of that is not sinking in? If they weren't road legal then they would not be allowed to drive on the roads between stages. And yet they do. Stop trying to argue this particular point with me because you are completely wrong.

Agreed: Although we're in the minority on this one.

Personally I kinda agree on this too!
 
And just to back up home's post on rally cars....

Rallying is a form of motor competition that takes place on public or private roads with modified production or specially built road-legal cars.
The first sentence under Sport Description in this link also states the same.
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X-Games Rally Car Racing
Sport Description: Rally Car Racing features a driver and a co-driver racing street legal cars on closed sections of roads called "stages."
 
Those are rally not tuner cars.

????????? the first skoda i posted is built by tuners and no rally car!!! the secound one is an conceptcar from brisk. it´s an tuned streetcar. and did you see an rallyspoiler?and rally cars hasn´t got 500hp!!
 
Some tuner cars I would like to see:

Impul March Compressor
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Supercharged HR15DE (1.5l) engine, taking power up to around 140-150bhp, and removing the Japanese 180km/h speed restrictor :mischievous: The big bonnet buldge is necessary just to fit the supercharger. Happens to be also available with a much meaner wing than the one in the pic, a massive hoop that follows the lines of the top of the rear screen. Runs on either Ohlins or Impul's own suspension.

Even better, this setup can be had in the Nissan Cube, now that would surprise a few people!

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Would make a great "compact car cup" contender in GT5, though would find competition from this:

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Not as wild as the Impul, naturally aspirated and only based on the CR12DE 1.2 engine producing 90bhp... but we all know you can tune this in GT anyway, and it's lighter than the Impul so would run it close on handling.
 
Tuner Village in GT4 gave you the opportunity of purchasing original car parts for [the very few] cars that can be given Original-spec car parts. I made some posts in the "Things You Would Like to See in GT5 Other Than Cars" thread. Among some of them include more Original parts made available for various other cars, and things like that. I'll mostly focus on what to do with Tuner Village rather than specific tuning groups.

The Tuner Village should be that facility you can use to take a car from stock to be modified to the max using tuner-spec parts. I like to think of GT4's Tuner Village as testing the waters. What the Tuner Village was mostly good for was getting the same parts from the manufacturer to tune up cars since there weren't many cars that could be tuned with Original parts. I imagine more tuning options from the Tuner Village to make a car even more unique and powerful. I think the tuning firms should ONLY offer aftermarket packages as opposed to just the manufacturer goods. Adding on tuner parts often offer much better performance to cars without (not that this is an issue in GT) voiding warranties. There's virtually no difference in purchasing upgrades for cars from the manufacturer or from a tuner.

Maybe GT5 can be like a more detailed tuning version of "Test Drive Unlimited" in which certain specialist groups focus on nationalities of car rather than just specific car tuners. I even welcome the prospect of part specialits. Examples: Flowmaster mufflers, K&N Air Filters, Sparco seats, Tein suspension, and that sort of thing. Any Full Model offered by tuning groups are also fair game to be bought and tuned. PD needs to expand Tuner Village to allow for many more cars to be tuned to become amazing machines on the track. The popularity of Time Attack is a nice trend to embark on as far as automotive pop culture goes. I think even a new driving model will be needed to really make drifting fun for those who challenge themselves to slide a car into the corners.

If they keep this sort of thing up, Tuner Village in GT5 will end up being what Tuner Village COULD have been for GT4. More American, European, and Australian (I don't forget Australia) groups should be represented in GT5. We have Hennessey Performance here in my hometown. They are the makers of that wicked powerful Viper from earlier this decade or late last decade. They even have some powerful kits for other performance cars. There isn't a true American tuner in GT series history. HPA Motorsports is dubbed an American group, but they are actually Canadian.

[UPDATE] Perhaps take a line from "Forza Motorsport Showdown" and include some Year One customs. Some of the Euro tuners make some wicked tuner cars as well. The one that stuck out to me was this twin-engined Audi TT featured on "Super 2NRTV" back on Spike TV years ago. My education of Australian tuners other than FPV is very limited. So you Aussies will need to help me out on any other performance tuners in Australia. Does HSV count as an Australian tuner (though they are to Holden as SVT is to Ford America)?
 
What i'm realy waiting for is top secret, but since they are in forza. There is a chance they won't be in GT5.

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But one thing is shore, Voltex is gonna be in GT5 (or the cyber evo IX). Because the tuned evo IX had their body kit.
 
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And my favorite tuner car ever, the top secret V12 supra

I have the same opinion, the Top Secret Supra V12 is my favorite!

Is one of the best car ever made by a tuner company, especialy the twin-turbo version!

This Top Secret Supra V12 Does 358kmh at Italian 400 Nardo :crazy:

It was at the Tokyo Auto Salon that we last saw this beast in the flesh, a tuned Toyota Supra ready for the Italian 400 Nardo.

This Supra, with a 5.999 cm3 V12 (GFV12) engine under the bonnet, assisted by a dual turbocharger kit from HKS (GT2540), our beast now has an output of 1000hp!
 
I don't think Top Secret is under some "exclusive contract" with the Turn 10 boys. Remember, we got Ferrari now in GT5. Who's to say we can't share any other cool cars as featured in any Forza so far? That's even if you want the Abflug Supra ( http://www.toyota-supra.info/supra/s900/S900_ABFLUG_Supra.php ) featured in FM1. Top Secret would be HUGE for GT5. Imagine how many would go crazy about racing the V12 Supra from Top Secret.

I still think Tuner Village should be expanded to feature American, European, and Australian tuner cars. It's not to say that I'm tired or annoyed with Japanese tuner cars, just that I'd like to see a little extra diversity. I'm also thinking of this so that people who are usually critical of GT for not having more American and European cars. A lot of the SVT and SRT machines would work. It even includes the hot new 21st Century Challenger. Also look into some Euro tuners. That even includes European compacts like the R32 Golf and various other European tuners. Because some people can be so picky about cars (especially those tired/sick/annoyed with mostly Japanese cars), I included those to get some people to feel better.
 
This will be cool,

Lingenfelter Z06 Twin Turbo

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APR Celica

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Star Road Fairlady Z (S30)

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Novitec Rosso 599 GTB Fiorano

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These cars should be on GT5 if PD has a chance.
 
HAMANN Ferrari F430 Black Miracle
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Fabulous Ferrari F360 Modena

Novitect Ferrari F430 TuNero
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Corvette Widbody roadster
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That Mustardo is a monstrosity, and doesn't deserve a place in existance let alone in GT5!
 
The star road S30z is awsome, just like the devil Z from wangan midnight.

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My favorite 911 tuner, Rauh welt. They only do air-cooled porsche's for time-attack. But also have a few S15's and AE86's.
 
Another great tuner from Japan:

Wald International

Bentley Continental GT Coupe '08
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BMW 335i '08
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BMW M5 '08
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BMW M6 '09
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Mercedes-Benz C 63 Executive Line '08
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Mercedes-Benz CL 63 Sports Line Black Bison Edition '08
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Mercedes-Benz S 63 Sports Line Black Bison Edition '08
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Toyota Alphard Sports Line '08
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Nice machines :crazy:
 
I'm okay with older Porsches. I'm more used to more recent Porsches myself.

Wald International is a JAPANESE tuner? I thought they were a Euro tuner with those cars. I dig most of those tuners from Post #84. I guess I like the Bentley Continental GT Coupe best. I think the Toyota Alphard was in Enthusia. Seeing this in GT5 would add some extra diversity as well as with the Bentley. Imagine if another race series devoted to luxury and executive cars returned to the Gran Turismo series for the first time since GT2...
 
Wald International is a JAPANESE tuner? I thought they were a Euro tuner with those cars

Yes they are Japanese.

Imagine if another race series devoted to luxury and executive cars returned to the Gran Turismo series for the first time since GT2...

Thats a good idea, would be nice to have a few big VIP cars in GT5.

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Wald aristo

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Wald soarer

Wald is actualy my least favorite VIP tuner, Mode parfume and junction produce aremore my style.

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Mode parfume Y33 cima

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Junction produce F50 president.
 
Each to their own, that Junction and the Mode are fugly to the extreme. Ostentatious and not even very stylish.
 
Those wald international cars look nice... also changes under the hood?

The junction is so strange and ugly it is special :)
 
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