GT5p vs GRID (First, and only, take)

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I fully agree and support what cruiser says here...

doblocruiser
If you turn of all the assists, activate Pro Mode the experience is a little different ;)

Smokin down Lemans, day going to night is pretty awesome!

Posted this already in the GRID topic but here it is again


Make up your mind then ;)

I don't compare it to GT5 or any other racing game. I'm having a hell of blast with it. absolutely no problem with the AI

Oo and I drive with the DFP wheel, 900 degrees mode on and reduced response to 35% (ps3 version)
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I like the basic idea behind GRID: limit the game to a few (exciting) cars, have better AI & have "real" damage, so that the focus is on the actual racing. Personally (& I know many GT fans would disagree with me on this), I would be happy if that's the way GT5 were structured - forget 100s of cars, many too boring to be worth driving.

The problem is, the physics in GRID are too crude & over-simplified to make the game truly challenging & satisfying. :indiff:
 
Biggles
I like the basic idea behind GRID: limit the game to a few (exciting) cars, have better AI & have "real" damage, so that the focus is on the actual racing. Personally (& I know many GT fans would disagree with me on this), I would be happy if that's the way GT5 were structured - forget 100s of cars, many too boring to be worth driving.

The problem is, the physics in GRID are too crude & over-simplified to make the game truly challenging & satisfying. :indiff:
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although i agree about the "crude"... i'm not sure about the "not challenging" tho.

However, if PD were to take GRID and cram it all in their vision, this would be come the ultimate unbeatable racing game out there.
 
Sa!!yz~Rage
I don't know about GT5 vs GRiD, but if you want a real laugh go and download Nascar 2009 demo from PSN. OMG! I can't even describe it....

What year is this? :lol::lol: God....EA Sports....it's in the game alright. :rolleyes:
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Just finished playing it, and it's... deleted. I don't like GRID at all, but I would prefer it to Nascar 09.

Damage = cosmetic but not mechanical. I hit people head-on at 350+ mph combined speed and my car was not ripped to shreds. In fact, it handled like it was new.

Graphics = after seeing Prologue's Daytona Superspeedway, I was impressed. After seeing Nascar's, I was appalled. 720p should still look pretty good, but in Nascar, it doesn't. After seeing Nascar's tracks, you will laugh. Or cry. I did both.

I could go on, but I don't want to get yelled at by the mods for hijacking, so here's something on topic:

flubbachany
It's a nice addition to be able to appreciate your new ride from the inside (you can also look out of the back window when you press the rear-view button), but it's not very practical.
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Isn't this the point of a simulation? When driving in a real car, the view of the road is partially obstructed by the front of the car, the backseats, the doors, etc. Nobody uses a bumper cam or a bird's eye view to drive in real life. Sure, it gets in the way, but having it as a camera option adds to the realism of the game. GRID's in-car view also gets in the way, but it has less much less detail than Prologue. So why complain about Prologue but not GRID?
 
It's really sad, I was expecting them to improve something from Dirt.
It's basically not made to be played with a wheel, stick with controllers and you'll be fine.

They also made it look gritty/hazy to blur the details. Oh well.
It had potential, "had".
 
Grid love it or not, GOOD or bad. I pas since its ARCADE game. I see no fun with that
I'ma a SIM Wh#re (freak)
Only arcade race game i had fun with is Motorstorm and Burnout, Because of the destruction :)
 
ya know maybe this game wouldnt be so much of an epic fail if they would have just said it is an arcade game instead of marketing it as a race sim. constantly comparing it to GT5P and saying its so much better. if they would have compared it to a game like PGR or NFS i probably would have approached the demo with a different mindset, but seeing as they marketed it as a sim i will think of it as a sim and on that basis it was an epic fail. if they would have just said that it was a arcade racer then i would have judged it on that. oh well looks like they will lose alot of there fan base from the toca series. maybe they will notice this (which i highly doubt) and change there ways back to a sim racing company
 
The fact that there is this debate over GRID being good or not proves there's something quite wrong with it in the first place - many of the people who dislike it (including myself) think that all its predecessors are better. For them to have liked the old games but not the new one is a sign that something has changed for the worst.

I reckon in the past most people here bought both the GT games and the TOCA/Race Driver games - with this installment, a hell of a lot fewer fans will be buying the Codemasters title.

Admittedly the Codemasters ones have always been better for actual racing, but now the handling and graphics are so off the mark there's no incentive to race.

And the Need For Speed comparisons are irrelevant to me personally, as I like LFS titles but I don't like GRID.
 
Well evidently when one of the 'favored' members calls you a liar and you call them to task on it, they boot you from the forum. :lol:

That's okay, kinda goes along with how people play the game in general anyway. Funny thing is I like DiRT.
 
tinram
It's really sad, I was expecting them to improve something from Dirt. It's basically not made to be played with a wheel, stick with controllers and you'll be fine.
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I'd rather eat DiRT.

Codies has been messing up since Toca 2. The steering went to hell, and if you can't drive a car properly with a wheel controller, I don't see much point to it OR the physics. I doubt I'll ever buy anything from them again.
 
GRID is a lot of fun, due of course to it's gung-ho chaaaarge physics. A perfect antidote to the cool clinical style of GT5P

It has a feature or two that PD could look at, ie: the ai team mate and car branding. The sponsorship deals are a laugh too :D

Same as i've thought for a long time, PD and Codies could make a hell of a game/sim together
 
You lot are all nuts. You clam to know about gaming ha ha don't make me laugh.
What the hell do you lot know. You are compeering grid with gt5p for witch i have both. Right then here is how it is. 1 You can not compare grid with gt because gt5p is a sim grid is not it is arcade . 2 Codemasters have never said it was a sim and never will be. So i think you lot really need to play more and not make silly posts about things you know nothing about. next you will be doing the same thing with call of duty and mgs. just because you have got a gun in it lol. the only game you can compare gt5p to is gt4 that is it.
 
P3DGpitstop25
You lot are all nuts. You clam to know about gaming ha ha don't make me laugh.
What the hell do you lot know. You are compeering grid with gt5p for witch i have both. Right then here is how it is. 1 You can not compare grid with gt because gt5p is a sim grid is not it is arcade . 2 Codemasters have never said it was a sim and never will be. So i think you lot really need to play more and not make silly posts about things you know nothing about. next you will be doing the same thing with call of duty and mgs. just because you have got a gun in it lol. the only game you can compare gt5p to is gt4 that is it.
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Although, nothing will change the fact that Codemasters used to make simulators and now do not, which some people may be bitter about.
 
EnZo-UK
Grid = punter paradise
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id say its worse then punter paradise more like suicidal paradise. i remember in the demo there was an idiot that was driving backwards on the track and because of the stupid haze they have to make there lack of detail look amazing i didnt notice he was coming at me until it was to late to dodge him and ended up destroying the car and having a DNF. and people want damage implemented so bad in GT5P yet this will happen in GT if they do implement it.
 
P3DGpitstop25
You lot are all nuts. You clam to know about gaming ha ha don't make me laugh.
What the hell do you lot know. You are compeering grid with gt5p for witch i have both. Right then here is how it is. 1 You can not compare grid with gt because gt5p is a sim grid is not it is arcade . 2 Codemasters have never said it was a sim and never will be. So i think you lot really need to play more and not make silly posts about things you know nothing about. next you will be doing the same thing with call of duty and mgs. just because you have got a gun in it lol. the only game you can compare gt5p to is gt4 that is it.
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:odd:

Shhhh, the adults are talking.

You've accused rather a lot of people of not knowing what they're talking about. What you've in fact missed is that firstly these are our opinions, and secondly, we've backed them up with coherent arguements. We all have something to bring to this conversation, and in your case it's silence.
 
P3DGpitstop25
You lot are all nuts. You clam to know about gaming ha ha don't make me laugh.
What the hell do you lot know. You are compeering grid with gt5p for witch i have both. Right then here is how it is. 1 You can not compare grid with gt because gt5p is a sim grid is not it is arcade . 2 Codemasters have never said it was a sim and never will be. So i think you lot really need to play more and not make silly posts about things you know nothing about. next you will be doing the same thing with call of duty and mgs. just because you have got a gun in it lol. the only game you can compare gt5p to is gt4 that is it.
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Ok, say you have enough money for one game and you like arcade racers and sim racers. How do you choose? you compare do you not?
 
Why are these games even being compared? GT5P is a quasi-demo based on simulation type physics. Grid is a full game with arcade style physics and goes about game play in an entirely different way. They are targeted at two very different racing game fans. Grid isn't the worse game I've played and it has a fun factor about it, but I can think of more arcade games I enjoyed over it.
 
Joey D
Why are these games even being compared? GT5P is a quasi-demo based on simulation type physics. Grid is a full game with arcade style physics and goes about game play in an entirely different way. They are targeted at two very different racing game fans. Grid isn't the worse game I've played and it has a fun factor about it, but I can think of more arcade games I enjoyed over it.
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Two different racing game fans?? I like both.
 
Dragonistic
Two different racing game fans?? I like both.
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Just because they are targeted at two different types of fans doesn't mean there won't be any crossover. But if there was someone who hated sim games they probably wouldn't like GT5P very much at all and vice versa for Grid.
 
P3DGpitstop25
You lot are all nuts. You clam to know about gaming ha ha don't make me laugh.
What the hell do you lot know. You are compeering grid with gt5p for witch i have both. Right then here is how it is. 1 You can not compare grid with gt because gt5p is a sim grid is not it is arcade . 2 Codemasters have never said it was a sim and never will be. So i think you lot really need to play more and not make silly posts about things you know nothing about. next you will be doing the same thing with call of duty and mgs. just because you have got a gun in it lol. the only game you can compare gt5p to is gt4 that is it.
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Like 'homeforsummer', i take offence here too.
It's fine if you insist that a.o. my online gaming experience of nearly 20 years, is not sufficient to have an opinion that's worth anything.
According to you, i (or rather anyone but you) need to "play more" (which i undoubtably will though :)).

But if you do, don't do it with a sloppy message so full of errors even a non-native english speaker like me is insulted, if you are going to make bold claims, at least be correct.

"the only game you can compare gt5p to is gt4 that is it"
that's nonsense, next you're going to claim we can only compare pes 2008 to pes 6, rather then make the usefull comparison between fifa2008 and pes2008.
But since you take that route, please tell me how the GT4 online compares to GT5P online (as that is THE feature of any serious race game, arcade or sim alike).

Phew, i feel a lot better now ;)
 
Joey D
Just because they are targeted at two different types of fans doesn't mean there won't be any crossover. But if there was someone who hated sim games they probably wouldn't like GT5P very much at all and vice versa for Grid.
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Exactly, there's crossovers, why can't they be compared?
 
Dragonistic
Exactly, there's crossovers, why can't they be compared?
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Because they were designed with different audiences in mind. Just because a game was designed with x majority in mind doesn't mean people who are fans of y genre aren't going to like the game.

They are still entirely different sorts of games and therefore shouldn't be looked at in the same way.
 
Joey D
Because they were designed with different audiences in mind. Just because a game was designed with x majority in mind doesn't mean people who are fans of y genre aren't going to like the game.

They are still entirely different sorts of games and therefore shouldn't be looked at in the same way.
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I never said they should be looked at in the same way but you can rate GRiD as how good an arcade racer it is, and how good a sim GT5 is. An awful sim might be less useful to a die hard sim fan as a brilliant arcade racer, and vice versa.

I personally, wouldn't compare the two directly, and i haven't, but i can see why these guys have.
 
Dragonistic
I never said they should be looked at in the same way but you can rate GRiD as how good an arcade racer it is, and how good a sim GT5 is. An awful sim might be less useful to a die hard sim fan as a brilliant arcade racer, and vice versa.

I personally, wouldn't compare the two directly, and i haven't, but i can see why these guys have.
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You are missing my point, I'm looking at the thread in general. These games shouldn't be compared because they aren't in the same sub-genre of racing games. It would be like comparing Need for Speed or PGR to a installment of GT. Different types of games designed with a different type of gamer in mind. Just because you are a fan of both doesn't mean everyone is, many members on the boards hate the NFS series, but obviously love GT.

Comparing these games are like comparing apples to oranges, both are fruit but very different kinds.
 

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