GT6 released with PS4?

[tfed]

Your going to hear about the new Uncharted on Ps4,way before you will GT6

 

[spunwicked]

Augmented reality using Sony's nifty little headset (with motion tracking) for GT7.

Can you imagine it? Sitting with you hands fixed to your G27, looking around your cockpit?

That, my friends, is the future. Forget garlic bread.

 

[STVBDKD]

his word is GT6 will come out AFTER the PS4

 

[fatkrakr]

We could possibly see a gt6 prologue. Just putting it out there we had one already may get another.

 

[analog]

GT1 was on PS1
GT2 was on PS1
GT3 was on PS2
GT4 was on PS2
GT5 is on PS3
GT6 will be on PS3

See where I am going with this?

Yep but you can also see it another way.

GT1 had no DLC
GT2 had no DLC
GT3 had no DLC
GT4 had no DLC
GT5 has DLC
GT6 who knows?

Maybe they've changed their business strategy and are planning to extend GT5's lifespan as much as they can by adding new content over the coming year or years and maybe, maybe, they don't release a Prologue title for GT6 but intend GT6 to be a full launch title for the PS4, since the DLC earnings could replace the earnings created by a Prologue title.

As for me, I wish another full GT title would be released for the PS3 and I do hope your list is the proof for that, especially since GT5 isn't exactly offering the complete experience contentwise as GT4 for example was on the PS2 (meaning only current gen cars, etc.).
Although right now I'd settle for another Tourist Trophy title next year to pass the time joyfully (and playing GT5 alongside).

 

[Strittan]

Not really. Opening up the car models to smooth the edges of rear view mirrors and such wouldn't take that long, and could be handled by one or two people over the course of a couple of years.

Well, that's true. Still think it's unnecessary though. We don't need better looking cars than what we already have. We need the next game to perform as good as possible, no matter how good the PS4 might be.

In other words, I'd rather see as many cars on track at the same time than better looking cars.

 

[SuperCobraJet]

GT1 was on PS1
GT2 was on PS1
GT3 was on PS2
GT4 was on PS2
GT5 is on PS3
GT6 will be on PS3

See where I am going with this?

I have to agree.

Sony has struggled to catch up with the PS3 sales.

Considering the economy worldwide, a new console will take even longer to establish.

GT6, has to come out on PS3 to have any chance at a decent number of sales.

I think its too damn early to talk GT6, or PS4, for gods sake GT5 isn't even a year old yet!

Had GT5 been anywhere near the game it should have been, we would'nt be.

 

[Griffith500]

Yep but you can also see it another way.

GT1 had no DLC
GT2 had no DLC
GT3 had no DLC
GT4 had no DLC
GT5 has DLC
GT6 who knows?

Maybe they've changed their business strategy and are planning to extend GT5's lifespan as much as they can by adding new content over the coming year or years and maybe, maybe, they don't release a Prologue title for GT6 but intend GT6 to be a full launch title for the PS4, since the DLC earnings could replace the earnings created by a Prologue title.

As for me, I wish another full GT title would be released for the PS3 and I do hope your list is the proof for that, especially since GT5 isn't exactly offering the complete experience contentwise as GT4 for example was on the PS2 (meaning only current gen cars, etc.).
Although right now I'd settle for another Tourist Trophy title next year to pass the time joyfully (and playing GT5 alongside).

My thoughts exactly. 👍

 

[Tenacious D]

Sony has struggled to catch up with the PS3 sales.

This weird mantra isn't even true, though it refuses to go away.

Lifetime PS3 sales close in on Xbox 360 (linky)
Posted on November 4, 2011 - 06:56 by Mike Luttrell

Sony mantra since launching the PS3 five years ago has been that the console war is a marathon, not a sprint, and the latest sales numbers show it may have known what it was talking about.

Sony's most recent quarterly results showed that the company shipped 3.7 million PS3 units, bringing the lifetime total to 55.5 million.

Meanwhile, the most recent published Xbox 360 shipment numbers were a little over 57.5 million, meaning the two consoles are closer than ever.

It's especially significant when you backtrack and look at how the Xbox 360 was soaring far above the PS3 for years. The Xbox 360 also had a one-year head start on the PS3, so Sony is definitely closing in.

When the PS3 was initially released for $600, skeptics blasted the console and said it would be a colossal flop. Of course, today you can get an iPad for more than that and no one complains.

With the PS3, it was always about price. Everyone knew Sony had the most powerful console by far, but only few could afford to buy it. Now that the PS3 is affordable, for many people who have to decide which to get, the PS3 is a no-brainer decision.

The Xbox 360 has shown limitations in its "future-proof" capabilities, since early models had no HDMI port or built-in wireless Internet access, something that seems archaic by today's standards. They also had no real internal storage, which has forced some users to buy external hard drives just to continue to play games online.

The PS3, meanwhile, though it has gone through some hardware changes, has been offering a consistent experience from day one. Sony may be onto something with its 10-year life cycle.

 

[SuperCobraJet]

This weird mantra isn't even true, though it refuses to go away.

How so?

They were the last to release their next console and consequently, still trail Wii and the 360.
Although they are close to the 360, they are still #3.

The point is as said, GT6 will have to be released on the PS3 to take advantage of sales, among the established volume of owners.

 

[PaMu1337]

How so?

They were the last to release their next console and consequently, still trail Wii and the 360.
Although they are close to the 360, they are still #3.

The point is as said, GT6 will have to be released on the PS3 to take advantage of sales, among the established volume of owners.

Or on PS4 as launch title to sell more PS4 consoles and take a head start

 

[Strittan]

The point is as said, GT6 will have to be released on the PS3 to take advantage of sales, among the established volume of owners.

That makes no sense whatsoever. GT5 Prologue alone sold more than Forza 1 and Forza 2 together, and even though it came out over a year after, GT5 has already sold around 2 million copies more than Forza 3.

I'd say it's Turn 10 that's trying to catch up with PD if anything.

Or on PS4 as launch title to sell more PS4 consoles and take a head start

Exactly. That sounds way smarter to me.

 

[SuperCobraJet]

Or on PS4 as launch title to sell more PS4 consoles and take a head start

In this economy?
And as slow as Sony and PD are?
Never happen, unless PD can't get the game done before the PS4 is out.
Thats possible.
55 million PS3 owners and likely many more by the time GT6 releases, are a bird in the hand.

That makes no sense whatsoever. GT5 Prologue alone sold more than Forza 1 and Forza 2 together, and even though it came out over a year after, GT5 has already sold around 2 million copies more than Forza 3.

I'd say it's Turn 10 that's trying to catch up with PD if anything.

Forza?
What does that have to do with GT6 on PS3 or PS4?
Come on man, get in the game.

 

[NotSoSilentBob]

Or on PS4 as launch title to sell more PS4 consoles and take a head start

Well GT5 was suppose to be a launch game but look where that ended. Which do you think they will sell more games at, a new console that will more then likely suffer from the same technical setbacks the Ps3 did at launch(Ps4) or to 55million potential consumers(PS3)?

 

[Strittan]

Forza?
What does that have to do with GT6 on PS3 or PS4?
Come on man, get in the game.

Yeah, you were talking about sales, and this is a GT forum. Now, if PD sall more games than their Xbox rival Turn 10 (which they clearly have), they've succeded to help the console sales, haven't they? It's like you blame PD for PS3 being behind Xbox360.

Well GT5 was suppose to be a launch game but look where that ended. Which do you think they will sell more games at, a new console that will more then likely suffer from the same technical setbacks the Ps3 did at launch(Ps4) or to 55million potential consumers(PS3)?

GT3 sold more than GT4, even though GT4 was a much improved game over GT3, so I wouldn't go as far as to say GT6 would sell less on PS4 than on PS3.

 

[NotSoSilentBob]

Yeah, you were talking about sales, and this is a GT forum. Now, if PD sall more games than their Xbox rival Turn 10 (which they clearly have), they've succeded to help the console sales, haven't they? It's like you blame PD for PS3 being behind Xbox360.

GT3 sold more than GT4, even though GT4 was a much improved game over GT3, so I wouldn't go as far as to say GT6 would sell less on PS4 than on PS3.

And GT3 was sold with the PS2 for the first 3-4 years the PS2 was out. After the launch and first year PS3 had with just about every media outlet/developer(3rd party) saying the PS3 is a waste/flop. I don't see many people getting a PS4 right off the bat unless it has some killer games. Granturismo 5 took 5-6 years to make with the "unveiling" as a launch game. PD takes their time and does the best they can. When the PS4 hasn't even been finalized how are they going to know what they can and can't do much less how are they going to push the envelope persay with a new hardware after they have learned every nook and cranny in the PS3?

 

[SuperCobraJet]

Yeah, you were talking about sales, and this is a GT forum. Now, if PD sall more games than their Xbox rival Turn 10 (which they clearly have), they've succeded to help the console sales, haven't they? It's like you blame PD for PS3 being behind Xbox360.

Sony and PD have no potential game buyers among 360 owners, so Forza sales are irrelevant.
Only if someone bought the PS3 just to play GT5 would it help console sales.
Thats not going to be the lion's share of PS3 or PS4 owners.

The point is as I said, there are 55million and growing PS3 owners who are already out there.
All are potential GT6 buyers if released for PS3.
So if you are Sony and PD, why are you going to pass up that bird in the hand, for a new console that may take 5yrs to reach that many owners.

The answer is they won't pass it up.

IMO Sony is to blame for the late PS3 launch and being behind on the sales.
PD is to blame for taking an eternity to make GT5, and it was far below prior GT standards.

 

[TwistedView]

My vote is that GT 6 is released for the PS3, but this time allow GT 5 content (cars) to be transferred into it. At least the premium and DLC. If not, I will feel a little cheated again. Just my opinion.

 

[Lain]

GT1 was on PS1
GT2 was on PS1
GT3 was on PS2
GT4 was on PS2
GT5 is on PS3
GT6 will be on PS3

See where I am going with this?

It's certainly been the trend to release 2 games per platform, but that's no guarantee that they'll stick to that trend in the future. Especially with the advent of DLC.

 

[Jubby]

6=4.

He asked a question with a false statement in it, so the answer is no.

 

[Lain]

He asked a question with a false statement in it, so the answer is no.

False statement? I think not.

PS3 = GT5

And we all know PS is nothing without GT, and GT is nothing without PS, so they're obviously equal. Thus we can simplify to:

3 = 5

Then just add one to both sides...

4 = 6

 

[Tenacious D]

Which do you think they will sell more games at, a new console that will more then likely suffer from the same technical setbacks the Ps3 did at launch(Ps4) or to 55million potential consumers(PS3)?

What makes you think the PS4 will have the same technical setbacks as PS3?

 

[Lain]

What makes you think the PS4 will have the same technical setbacks as PS3?

Exactly. The PS3 had a steep learning curve for developers due to it's radical new processor design. But developers have learned how to work with it, and the PS4 will either just be a further continuation of that or it'll revert back to a more traditional processor.

For all we know, the PS4 might just have a higher clocked Cell processor with the same number of cores and everything as the PS3, with more RAM and a more capable GPU. No technical setbacks, it's just a PS3 but better. Like the PS4 should be.

 

[CrackedTrigger]

From what I heard at launch, a Sony rep let slip the ps3 was running at 40% power, as nothing that was released would need the power, then as games got bigger, they would up the power of th PS3. But then they took out a mother board, and half the vents on the console because it didn't need so much cooling, which made it cheaper. Then Sony let slip another time, the PS4 will be a launch PS3 tuned up to it's capabilities. I've had mine since launch and it's going strong!

 

[ChoShoTamashi]

I voted for GT6 being released with PS3 as it seems to be the safer path for Sony in terms of guaranteed sales in a declining economy. For those people that think GT6 will boost PS4 launch sales, please think of how much the PS3 cost when it was first launched. Assume the PS4 will be sold at the same price point as I doubt Sony would charge anything less for something more powerful than its daddy. If you are willing to spend over $599USD + $59USD just for GT6 at PS4 launch without giving second thought, you sir/madam, are rich and very fortunate and I have some major respect. Realistically, is it really a good time for Sony to introduce a new high price console when tons of people are still unemployed and can't afford to buy one?

With the existing PS3 fanbase and GT5 success, Sony and PD have actual data to fall back on that GT6 would definitely sell like hotcakes on the PS3. And the costs would be much cheaper for both PD and consumers. We'll just pay $59.99USD for a new GT game. PD could just make a few tweaks and interface updates, add a few new 2011 cars, add in some classic tracks, put in lots more events, and people would gobble it up like GT5.

I see GT6 on PS3 being a sure-win scenario for Sony whereas it would be much riskier move on the PS4 platform at launch. In our current world economy, risk is one of the last things companies will want to take. But then again, Mayan calendar ends next year, so for those who believe that, GT6 will just be a dream.

Just my two cents.

 

[snowgt]

From all we've seen in GT5, from the technical perspective it does not make sense to release GT6 on the PS3. PD have admitted they have tried to cram too much into GT5 already and they cannot make it work as they want, because of PS3's limited capabilities. Prime example: Just look at the shadows.

If they don't find a miracle solution to squeeze more efficiency out of their code, they are faced with the possibilities to either "dumb down" what's in the game to make it run smooth again on PS3, or release the game GT5 could have been, if the PS3 was more powerful, i.e. on PS4.

Where would the advance be in releasing another game with clearly visible graphics-problems that can't be solved on the PS3? If they can get a steady income from DLC over the next year or so (1 million DLC-packages sold seems to suggest just that), they can easily work on the PS4-launch release in the meantime, which in my opinion might come late 2013 or 2014, depending on the pressure from the new XBOX. And once the PS3 is technologically not the most advanced platform anymore, there will be pressure.

 

[Snaeper]

I've beaten this topic to death over in the other thread, so I'll try to bring some of my points here so you guys can see what you think.

-GT6 has been claimed to be in development, and Yamauchi-san has said that the game will not take as long to release.
-Kaz Hirai stated that he planned on the PS3 having a 9 year life cycle. Other articles and sources have also said 10 years. Jim Ryan even recently downplayed PS4 rumors and said that we shouldn't expect the system before 2014, which lines up right with Kaz Hirai's statements. This article that Tenacious D posted even mentions how Sony treats "console wars" as a marathon and not a sprint. So it's unreasonable (but not unfounded) to assume that the PS4 will be sped up just because the Xbox came out a bit before. Sony proved with the PS3 that they can release a system on a different and less-competitive date than the Xbox and still reap sales rewards because the console is ultimately a better piece. And since you really can't just speed up the release of something like that (without risking the possibility of increasing defects or generally providing a sub-par system) I'm going to assume that the PS4 will come out right on Sony's schedule with little thought given to the competition other than to keep an eye on what they're doing.

On top of all that (phew), the PS4 specs have not even been finalized at this point... or at least as far as we know. So wouldn't it be silly for PD to be developing a game for a platform who's basic specs don't even exist yet?

I would prefer GT6 on the PS3 to give PD more time to tinker with GT7 on the PS4. Especially if GT6 introduces a number of new features and concepts to allow the PS4 to refine and streamline everything previous. Since by the time I assume GT6 will release (2012/early 2013) then the PS4 will be well into the early stages of development and PD will have a better starting point on taking the GT franchise to the next level with the new system.

Anyways, that's my two cents. If you want a more in-depth look on my thoughts then you can come on over to the "GT6 confirmed in development" thread and read all about it there.

 

[Joie de vivre!]

I read somewhere that Sony already gave some developers some inside info about coding on new PS4.

Among few there were Naughty Dogs and also PD!!!

So I recon that GT6 will came for PS3 and PS4 at the same time! In 2013/2014!

 

[NotSoSilentBob]

I read somewhere that Sony already gave some developers some inside info about coding on new PS4.

Among few there were Naughty Dogs and also PD!!!

So I recon that GT6 will came for PS3 and PS4 at the same time! In 2013/2014!

Source?

I doubt that 1 game that is exclusive(GT) to a single party(Sony) will be on 2 systems with the same name. Could be GT6 and then maybe a GT7p for ps4.

 

[Vince_Fiero]

So my idea was PS3 is getting old compared to PC.
So a PS4 will get more pressure.

To support sales they will plan GT6 on this new machine, exclusive to push sales.
However Kaz will find some things not perfect and delay GT6, so that GT6 comes out after the PS4.

P.S. Nothing to support that.