GT7 Daily Race Discussion

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NevilleNobody
Something I have been meaning to ask. Do any of you have situations where racing is tight and you feel the driver next to you is bumping into you, so you check the replay and yeah, he is! However, you check the replay from HIS perspective and it looks for all the dang world that you wee trying to run him off the road when you know you were holding a line.

Happened to me a few times the past few weeks, its really weird. Red pill or blue pill?
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This happens to me too! Not sure why the two replays tell a different story?
 
cyirush
This happens to me too! Not sure why the two replays tell a different story?
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OK so not just me. I was going into the tight right after the esses at Seaside last week, trying to make a clean pass and I was being whacked on the side repeatedly. I was peeved and checked the replay and yeah he was whacking me.... then i checked his replay and I am hitting him! Like what the hell.
 
NevilleNobody
Something I have been meaning to ask. Do any of you have situations where racing is tight and you feel the driver next to you is bumping into you, so you check the replay and yeah, he is! However, you check the replay from HIS perspective and it looks for all the dang world that you wee trying to run him off the road when you know you were holding a line.

Happened to me a few times the past few weeks, its really weird. Red pill or blue pill?
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cyirush
This happens to me too! Not sure why the two replays tell a different story?
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NevilleNobody
OK so not just me. I was going into the tight right after the esses at Seaside last week, trying to make a clean pass and I was being whacked on the side repeatedly. I was peeved and checked the replay and yeah he was whacking me.... then i checked his replay and I am hitting him! Like what the hell.
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How are you checking the other person's replay?
 
NevilleNobody
OK so not just me. I was going into the tight right after the esses at Seaside last week, trying to make a clean pass and I was being whacked on the side repeatedly. I was peeved and checked the replay and yeah he was whacking me.... then i checked his replay and I am hitting him! Like what the hell.
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I think some of it is also human nature and that we are aware of someone next to us and subconsciously drift to where we look even peripherally (especially dangerous for motorcycle riders)
 
NevilleNobody
I save the replay and select the other person's car to view then use chase cam. I'll try and dig it up today.
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That's still your replay though, just with a different car selected. It's a recording of your input telemetry and the telemetry received and interpreted by your console during the race from the other consoles.

You need their actual replay to view their replay.
Schiaramone
Save/Download the replay, play the replay, change the car u want to see.
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Yes, that's how you see someone else's replay, but that didn't seem to be what was being talked about - as confirmed above.
 
NevilleNobody
I save the replay and select the other person's car to view then use chase cam. I'll try and dig it up today.
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Same. I save the race replay and have full access to the other car’s camera.

At DTS yesterday was going down the big hill before the death chicane. Went defensive (to the right, off the racing line) as a car was catching me. Gave him room to the left on the racing line, but he spun me out. In the post-race chat he claimed I turned into him.

Checked the replay and from my camera angle it looks like he hit my rear. From his, it looked like I turned into him. Both steering wheels were straight. So odd!
 
Famine
That's still your replay though, just with a different car selected. It's a recording of your input telemetry and the telemetry received and interpreted by your console during the race from the other consoles.
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THat may be the case, I cannot explain it but if it is the same reply, it is somehow showing two different things? On one it looks clear as day I am holding a line and he is barging me, on the other it looks clear as day he is holding a line and I am barging him. It's weird.
 
newmedia_dev
That’s not their replay…..it’s you replay and just the view of your own replay from a different camera…
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But if you have selected a different car, wouldn't you get the telemetry and position from that car. After all, the replays are recording each car...
 
TheNormsk
But if you have selected a different car, wouldn't you get the telemetry and position from that car. After all, the replays are recording each car...
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No because th game uses (most online games as well) use a sort of interpolation where it renders based on what it thinks is happening.

There will be variances between each players replays as the telemetry used at frame rendering time will not be exactly the same as it takes time for the data to be shared to all players and theirs to you.

For example when you see cars moving about with poor connection they aren’t seeing that in their own telemetry/data
 
cyirush
Same. I save the race replay and have full access to the other car’s camera.
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... as seen by your console.

Replays only show the local vehicle accurately. You can't (accurately) see what someone else saw and did by flicking to their car from your replay.
TheNormsk
But if you have selected a different car, wouldn't you get the telemetry and position from that car. After all, the replays are recording each car...
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No, they aren't.

Replays aren't recordings. They're telemetry data files, reconstructed by the game to create what you see. The only telemetry actually recorded in real-time is the local device. Everything else is, as it is in the race, what is received, subject to latency, plus guesswork in absent frames (per the below).

You can only reliably see your own vehicle. To see someone else's you need their replay file.

For the most part it doesn't entirely matter - it only really makes a significant difference in poor network environments - but you can't see what someone else actually did from looking at them on your own replay.
newmedia_dev
No because th game uses (most online games as well) use a sort of interpolation where it renders based on what it thinks is happening.

There will be variances between each players replays as the telemetry used at frame rendering time will not be exactly the same as it takes time for the data to be shared to all players and theirs to you.

For example when you see cars moving about with poor connection they aren’t seeing that in their own telemetry/data
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But of a shame having gr3 cars on hard tyres at Spa, nonetheless had me a fantastic clean race at lunch started P2 and P6 actually won it, but clean on every corner even the right left at the end of the straight when 2 wide!

Nothing else appeals this week so I’m going to stick with Spa and my 5star livered GTR
 

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