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GrumpyOldMan
I'm back from the dead, but I don't know if I'll race today. If I start a coughing fit during a race, it won't be pretty.

I was just watching one of @Tidgney's videos on the Mazda, and he showed something I'd never heard about before. Someone flashed their brights at him, and Tidgney said that was a sign the guy wanted to give him a bump draft. Can anyone explain this further? As I said, I've never heard of it before. (I paused his video to post this, so if he explains it later on, I'll come back and edit this.)
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The light flashing can be a thing in A+ lobbies especially as there are so few of them they all know each other or virtually know each other.

In any other rankings it's usually 1 of 3 things

1: well done
2: I think you are a muppet
3: controller user pressing the left stick in accidentally as they have it default mapped to left stick press.

There is a fourth but that's pretty rare....the "you are gonna get it flash" but that's rarer than the let's work together flash.
 
Robster UK
I do not like tuning as I have limited time to adjust settings and run enough laps to prove them out.
In Daily B QT I've been using the NSX and 458 running in the low 1.33s and not improving so resigned to trying the Mazda which I dislike/can't drive.
I used @Tidgney tune and still in the low 1.33s.

OK let's go left field and put the same Mazda tune on the NSX

Wow straight into the 1.32s, five laps later 1.32.3**
F/F tune into a MR car how does that work? Well it did for me, just have to try it in a race and get crushed by the Mazdas.
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Let them pass after the start, survive the hairpin and just race. Mostly the others clear themselves off on the track. Gave me from 9 to 4 in the last race B in an NSX 🤷🏻‍♂️ seems like they think, oh, it’s no Mazda, it’s an easy catch, but that’s not the whole story and they should learn that 💪

newmedia_dev
The light flashing can be a thing in A+ lobbies especially as there are so few of them they all know each other or virtually know each other.

In any other rankings it's usually 1 of 3 things

1: well done
2: I think you are a muppet
3: controller user pressing the left stick in accidentally as they have it default mapped to left stick press.

There is a fourth but that's pretty rare....the "you are gonna get it flash" but that's rarer than the let's work together flash.
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I remapped my controller, I didn’t like it in the replays 😂 another 5. I’ll flash you till you get nervous and lose control… and sometimes it works with me 😂🤷🏻‍♂️
 
newmedia_dev
The light flashing can be a thing in A+ lobbies especially as there are so few of them they all know each other or virtually know each other.

In any other rankings it's usually 1 of 3 things

1: well done
2: I think you are a muppet
3: controller user pressing the left stick in accidentally as they have it default mapped to left stick press.

There is a fourth but that's pretty rare....the "you are gonna get it flash" but that's rarer than the let's work together flash.
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Thanks. I may have gotten #2 one or more times... :rolleyes:
MrJones 78
I’ll flash you till you get nervous and lose control… and sometimes it works with me 😂🤷🏻‍♂️
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Ah, so you're one of those, huh? I admit that this is completely my own issue here, so please understand that as I go on. When someone flashes me a lot, and it doesn't seem to be a controller issue, my blood boils and I want to kill them. I lose all emotional control, and become irrational. It affects my driving, and assuming I don't actually manage to ruin the other driver's race, I ruin my own. And of course, if anyone actually knew that's how it affects me, they'd probably do it even more.

So I know my reaction is something I need to learn to control. And I will - it's now my goal in life! Because giving someone else the ability to control my emotions is unacceptable.
 
Does anyone have a QR1 or QR2 they want to sell or @TheNormsk do you mind sharing or PM'ing me the link to the better shaft clamp pretty please.
 
So here is a very unusual story. Have you ever finished lower than your starting position BUT was happy with the outcome of the race? Well.... I just had that happen to me!

I started in P2 in a sea of Mazdas (obviously) at the Forest and will be the first to say - OMG the sheer amount of stupid mistakes I made all race was hilarious/ pitiful 🫣 But the racing itself, best I had in a while!

P3 behind me was super clean, very fast and also aware of space around him during the race, a rare thing these days! By lap 3, my mistakes cost me P2 but we had bumper to bumper racing for the rest of the event! I think we switched positions about 4 times, never once making contact - some even in very tight spaces!

Still managed a podium but I don't even care it's P3 instead of P2 or P1, compared to what I experienced on my main account races, this was a dream! And, without sounding like a little girl, we even complimented each other's driving after the race and became PSN friends 😀

Does this mean I have a boyfriend now? 😂

 
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GrumpyOldMan
I'm back from the dead, but I don't know if I'll race today. If I start a coughing fit during a race, it won't be pretty.

I was just watching one of @Tidgney's videos on the Mazda, and he showed something I'd never heard about before. Someone flashed their brights at him, and Tidgney said that was a sign the guy wanted to give him a bump draft. Can anyone explain this further? As I said, I've never heard of it before. (I paused his video to post this, so if he explains it later on, I'll come back and edit this.)
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Bump draft , giving a litle push to the one infront to keep sharing the draft , instead of trying to pass.
Colleborate to catch those ahead
 
GrumpyOldMan
Thanks. I may have gotten #2 one or more times... :rolleyes:

Ah, so you're one of those, huh? I admit that this is completely my own issue here, so please understand that as I go on. When someone flashes me a lot, and it doesn't seem to be a controller issue, my blood boils and I want to kill them. I lose all emotional control, and become irrational. It affects my driving, and assuming I don't actually manage to ruin the other driver's race, I ruin my own. And of course, if anyone actually knew that's how it affects me, they'd probably do it even more.

So I know my reaction is something I need to learn to control. And I will - it's now my goal in life! Because giving someone else the ability to control my emotions is unacceptable.
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No no, I mean some do that to me and I feel exactly like you and sometimes they distract me enough to lose control or do failures. I feel you and I’m in the same boat. If that happens I force myself to focus and that helps 😉
 
GrumpyOldMan
I'm back from the dead, but I don't know if I'll race today. If I start a coughing fit during a race, it won't be pretty.

I was just watching one of @Tidgney's videos on the Mazda, and he showed something I'd never heard about before. Someone flashed their brights at him, and Tidgney said that was a sign the guy wanted to give him a bump draft. Can anyone explain this further? As I said, I've never heard of it before. (I paused his video to post this, so if he explains it later on, I'll come back and edit this.)
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This may help

www.gtplanet.net

The Draft and Bump Drafting?

The Draft? What is that exactly? Drafting or slipstreaming is a technique in sports racing where competitors align in a close group in order to reduce the overall effect of drag or fluid resistance of the group in a slipstream. Especially when high speeds are involved, drafting can...
www.gtplanet.net www.gtplanet.net
 
Dang, I've only done two races at DF and they were bad some, I didn't even record them. I shouldn't race when I'm drowsy. I always mess up near where the ambulance is, and then the sets of turns near the last tunnel. It's gonna take me a long time to get to an A rank the way I'm going. I guess practice and perseverance is the key. So far my time is 1'36.886.

I'm going to try the Ferrari 458, maybe using my own car will make the day! Every once in a while I'll experience the flashing lights thing from the A/B drivers, maybe it's a glitch also?
 
MrJones 78
No no, I mean some do that to me and I feel exactly like you and sometimes they distract me enough to lose control or do failures. I feel you and I’m in the same boat. If that happens I force myself to focus and that helps 😉
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Glance at the rear view, focus on position, braking and exit.

Use your radar and get comfortable looking at it especially when cars are in it. That means they are really really close. .3 of a second close, can be in the blind spots as well. It's also within move range.

You need to have 2 lines of focus:

1: can I take the line I want? Is there a car there or am I trying to defend (move once and move early, realise also that by coming offline you are compromising your line and exit, if they are far enough back or read it, you are a sitting duck, "switcheroooooooo")

2: be confident in your line and braking and make the other person respond to you, typically they will follow your line and wait for another opportunity. A lot of people out brake themselves in either defence or offence positions, in offence take your line, in defence brake earlier and pick the best exit line/speed you can.

Whilst most of the people we race with won't understand this, but being the chase car is a much much better position in tight racing. Braking markers become dynamic, lines become fluid and most of all you have choices. The car infront goes deep, go under them, they stay tight take the run up line. You are equally matched, find the way to take lines that make them adjust to yours.

But and I stress this, move one before the braking zone, but only once. Pick a racing line, the slow, optimum or alternate but don't move more than once. That includes braking and drifting wider from the inside. It also includes deeper braking coming in tighter. You pick your line stick to it.

That is the difference in driver ability. Or race craft. Putting your car where it should be at all times, not just where you look or what you see.
 
Yesterday, I volunteered to help out a co-worker with his GT7 account. He said he isn't getting fair races from the other drivers. He is D/B.
He gave me his login info, and I perused his account to see what I could upgrade for him. I got him gold on missions and licenses.
I took care of his menus, and bought some of the best Gr.3 and Gr.4 cars for him after making money on the circuit experiences.

Then I went to race C with no Q time, to increase his SR rating. Holy crap! I had forgotten how difficult it is to race against people who don't give a damn about their reputation. Passing some people seems equivalent to insulting their mother.
In the second race, I figured out their proclivities, and easily dodged their telegraphed haymakers. :lol:

I'm used to the A/S drivers, who are more ninja-like with their dirty tricks. :sly:
 
A ranked drivers are always like ninjas and warriors, that's the way I see it. Maybe I should get my DR up to a B/C, because I don't want to be in a lobby full of A ranked drivers. They may kick my butt on the track, xD.
 
Chris30
A ranked drivers are always like ninjas and warriors, that's the way I see it. Maybe I should get my DR up to a B/C, because I don't want to be in a lobby full of A ranked drivers. They may kick my butt on the track, xD.
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They aren't, they just can drive the car a little quicker and more consistently.

Most A or A+ drivers just understand the cars or the tracks better and have a bit better finesse on the controls. Aliens on the other hand are aliens!
 
sturk0167
Yesterday, I volunteered to help out a co-worker with his GT7 account. He said he isn't getting fair races from the other drivers. He is D/B.
He gave me his login info, and I perused his account to see what I could upgrade for him. I got him gold on missions and licenses.
I took care of his menus, and bought some of the best Gr.3 and Gr.4 cars for him after making money on the circuit experiences.

Then I went to race C with no Q time, to increase his SR rating. Holy crap! I had forgotten how difficult it is to race against people who don't give a damn about their reputation. Passing some people seems equivalent to insulting their mother.
In the second race, I figured out their proclivities, and easily dodged their telegraphed haymakers. :lol:

I'm used to the A/S drivers, who are more ninja-like with their dirty tricks. :sly:
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It's a false hubris though, your friend will be battling with the majority of us but no experience, so even passing contact will be a thing, their race craft isn't up to scratch? I'm not sure if you e helped or hindered their learning curve. I mean we all battle and get better going through it. That your friend gets an assisted pass which will ultimately put him back down because he couldn't do it himself?

Yeah not really sold on this.
 
newmedia_dev
They aren't, they just can drive the car a little quicker and more consistently.

Most A or A+ drivers just understand the cars or the tracks better and have a bit better finesse on the controls. Aliens on the other hand are aliens!
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The aliens need to jump on a spaceship and go to another galaxy, xD.

Seriously I couldn't handle the pressure trying to outsmart and beat them.
 
My use of a Mazda tune on the NSX seemed to yield some decent QT improvement so transfered it onto the 650 and drop another 0.4 now at 1.31.906.
The final sector after the last tunnel to the last turn gained the most time being able to run flat without lifting.
Really struggled for the first 3 days with this layout now it just seems to flow.
 
Robster UK
My use of a Mazda tune on the NSX seemed to yield some decent QT improvement so transfered it onto the 650 and drop another 0.4 now at 1.31.906.
The final sector after the last tunnel to the last turn gained the most time being able to run flat without lifting.
Really struggled for the first 3 days with this layout now it just seems to flow.
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What tune did you use specifically? Interested in giving it a go.
 
newmedia_dev
It's a false hubris though, your friend will be battling with the majority of us but no experience, so even passing contact will be a thing, their race craft isn't up to scratch? I'm not sure if you e helped or hindered their learning curve. I mean we all battle and get better going through it. That your friend gets an assisted pass which will ultimately put him back down because he couldn't do it himself?

Yeah not really sold on this.
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You're right.
I went a bit overboard, and got him up to B/S, with some pretty sporty Q times on B & C.
He'll get slaughtered if he enters those races. :lol:

I'll text him, and say wait to race until Monday.
 
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There is a basic setting I use for all cars in Group 4.

ARB's: 5/6 front, max out rear
Dumping Ratio Compression: lowest value front, max out rear
Dumping Ratio Expansion: front and rear maxed out (50)
Natural Frequency: lowest value front, rear as high as it gets if you can still control the oversteer (I usually start with 3.25)
Torque: lowest
Acc Sens: highest
Brake Sens: low as it gets if you can still control the lift off oversteer

Anyone else doing this? I learned this from Forza and it's pretty similar in GT7. Basically, get it as oversteery as it gets so it turns better. Too much oversteer turn in? Increase Brake Sensitivity. Too much oversteer exit corner? Reduce Acceleration Sensitivity. Too much oversteer everywhere? Reduce rear Natural Frequency.
 
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Celico
There is a basic setting I use for all cars in Group 4.

ARB's: 5/6 front, max out rear
Dumping Ratio Compression: lowest value front, max out rear
Dumping Ratio Expansion: front and rear maxed out (50)
Natural Frequency: lowest value front, rear as high as it gets if you can still control the oversteer (I usually start with 3.25)
Torque: lowest
Acc Sens: highest
Brake Sens: low as it gets if you can still control the lift off oversteer

Anyone else doing this? I learned this from Forza and it's pretty similar in GT7. Basically, get it as oversteery as it gets so it turns better. Too much oversteer turn in? Increase Brake Sensitivity. Too much oversteer exit corner? Reduce Acceleration Sensitivity. Too much oversteer everywhere? Reduce rear Natural Frequency.
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Yup, this looks pretty much like what a lot of people are posting. None of it is realistic, and it’s pretty much what ruined tuning races a year ago. The tunes were so extreme that PD just quit doing them. People were doing ridiculous tunes with maximum take and minimum aero which made the cars fast for quali but impossible to race.

It actually makes me consider that we are the guinea pigs and beta testers for their physics models. We spent the first two years doing nothing but RH races, and now they mostly seem to be RM races. I think they’re letting us push the limits and collecting telemetry to make their updates.

I wonder how long they’ll continue allowing this on dailies? At this rate, though, I don’t think we’ll be tuning much more.
 
AdxRE
My Guess

A: Honda S660
B: Gr.3
C: Gr.2
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A: Agree or similar
B: 100%
C: it feels like we had that config semi recently?

I'm actually hoping that C is tuned road cars
 
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