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Thank you, @AdxRE, yeah turns 4-6 are my biggest time blockers so I need to find an optimal line that can give me the most speed and can also save me time.

I probably can brake later at the Corkscrew as long as I pay attention and use caution because a high speed can lead to disaster. I remember back during the racing sessions in Gran Turismo 3.

Anyone else have any thoughts/words about what I could do to survive? And get a time maybe in the 1'30.000's?

I do like the Genesis G70 though, perfect combo for this track. It has a smooth engine and layout.
 
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Thank you, @AdxRE, yeah turns 4-6 are my biggest time blockers so I need to find an optimal line that can give me the most speed and can also save me time.

I probably can brake later at the Corkscrew as long as I pay attention and use caution because a high speed can lead to disaster. I remember back during the racing sessions in Gran Turismo 3.

Anyone else have any thoughts/words about what I could do to survive? And get a time maybe in the 1'30.000's?

I do like the Genesis G70 though, perfect combo for this track. It has a smooth engine and layout.
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I'm trying to figure-out how to survive myself...will take notes and let you know what I land on but it's not looking good. I think I made the 30's but even THAT was a unicorn lap.🤣

TBH, don't care how I do this week so long as I improve a bit. I'm just elated that I can use the Trophy again. Seems way stronger than it was before and is still a blast to drive. I've always been slow here, I'm just smilin' while doing it now.😁

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Looks like PD got the Gr4 BoP right in the last update. Lots of cars appear to be competitive at Laguna, even the G70, with no meta.

Competitive lobbies too! My QT is 130.1 and I was 14th last night in a mixed A/B race.

I’ve stuck with the Renault as I liked how it drove at Brands, though I’m wondering if the G70 isn’t quicker?
 
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AAHHHHHH !

I could have got into the 1:27's so many times but always kept making a teeny mistake here and there... Was even 0.2s faster than current best at one point but ruined the lap at the downhill braking zone after the corkscrew :(

Still, top 200 (ish) isn't too bad :D



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Im getting tired of TT my friends rather than racing it's been several weeks now where im racing friends times rather than people.

No hubris or anything like that so please people don't take offence.

I qualify well for my B pay grade, we can debate if I should be A or not but I do qualify well usually in the top5-800s.

So pretty damn quick, and I work hard at it. Racing wise, how does someone 1 second back think I'm somehow leaving the door open or leaving a gap ONE SECOND BACK

I run pretty top lap speeds for a B lobby i Just unsure of how the fu.. you can catch me on the brakes and then bin it the next corner.

Rant over. I apologise normal moaning, contrarian Glen will resume.
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I hate to say it, but I think maybe you’re experiencing some of the garbage I was so vocal about last week. Now you know my pain! 🤪

It’s absurd that these people are so unavoidable, and they can ruin a race with no thought or remorse. It seems to be innate some tracks for me, so I’m guessing it has to do with driving styles, etc. unfortunately both Monza and Laguna Seca are disastrous for me.
Chris30
Thank you, @AdxRE, yeah turns 4-6 are my biggest time blockers so I need to find an optimal line that can give me the most speed and can also save me time.

I probably can brake later at the Corkscrew as long as I pay attention and use caution because a high speed can lead to disaster. I remember back during the racing sessions in Gran Turismo 3.

Anyone else have any thoughts/words about what I could do to survive? And get a time maybe in the 1'30.000's?

I do like the Genesis G70 though, perfect combo for this track. It has a smooth engine and layout.
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If I remember correctly, wasn’t one of the license tests driving an F1 car around that track? It made me really have to learn how to push those corners. Maybe you can go back and watch that again?
 
Pretty sad fascist famine with sensitive fee fees marks my account as spam

What was spam projecting spam?

All i said was i'm tired of people yapping about shorter races then turning around yapping about longer races

You allow people to drone on all freaking day about how terrible PD is but i make a comment about the people complaining zapped gone get out

Sad

So go ahead prove me right show how sensitive you are and zap me again i don't give a fig
 
gtman11
Pretty sad fascist famine with sensitive fee fees marks my account as spam

What was spam projecting spam?

All i said was i'm tired of people yapping about shorter races then turning around yapping about longer races

You allow people to drone on all freaking day about how terrible PD is but i make a comment about the people complaining zapped gone get out

Sad

So go ahead prove me right show how sensitive you are and zap me again i don't give a fig
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Your account wasn't marked as spam - if it was, it would have been banned and all your posts would have been removed. As you can see, this is not the case:

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It seems that your email address was bounced by your provider (or you) erroneously marking GTPlanet as spam, which deactivates your account here until a valid email address which doesn't reject our emails is provided. Just like it says in our site FAQ.

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But since your reaction to this is to go straight to blaming us and calling me (who had nothing to do with this automated process) moronic names, good riddance.

And yes, I manually approved this post just to point out how intensely stupid you're being, what a terrible human being you are, and so that people know the actual reason you got banned - and when it actually happened.
 
I don’t know what PD have done but I’m actually enjoying Daily C this week.

On paper this race is boring. It just happens that on Sunday I was online and did a practice race. While it was kinda fun I had no plans to race it. As my ACC league is off season, I thought on Monday why not do Daily C.
Done a few races last night and had some ok races. Had pace but just got unlucky with idiots. Then done a few again today but in VR. As this was my first real sort of test at VR racing, I thought Monza would be an easy place to start. Well after 2 races in VR, VR racing is fun and this Daily C is quite fun too.

One thing that has made this interesting for me in the cars. Love the verity! While the Supra is fast, it’s definitely not dominant (in B lobbies) no more. I picked Lexus and I was able to keep up with the Supra, and also defend it, it’s doesn’t get swallowed up. Has it taken PD really 2 years to balance the BOP?
 
Maaann.... In the one race I start well (did a 1:28:0 lap now on Laguna) in P6 and of all people, KIMI was driving super clean - my race gets ruined in the last lap :(

OMG I think someone else did the qualy time for P5 - SLOW is an understatement!!! The amount of times I had to really slow down and make emergency manoeuvres because he comes to a complete stop was countless! I could have passed him but would have forced him wide so chose to not do that.

On another lap, yet again because he parked his car in a corner, I actually did make contact but steered my car to line up with his and catch his spin and let him straighten and drive off....

Then on the final lap of the corkscrew, he did literally stop and to avoid him and P7 behind to slam into me with the unexpected halt, I went wide and took a pen, which ended up in me finishing in P8 after having a 1s penalty added to my time :(

Have to also say P7 (MrT) was amazing all race, we were inches from each other all race but he too was fair and a sportsman! Enjoyed that :)

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TechnoIsLove
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Thanks! Been using the Renault and got a QT of 1:29.5. Will give the G70 a try as it seems quicker on the straights.

Used to have a G70. Great tho’ underrated sports sedan, really balanced chassis. Good looking too. Raced it when GT7 first came out, but it wasn’t really competitive in Gr4. Good to see it is now.
 
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Thanks! Been using the Renault and got a QT of 1:29.5. Will give the G70 a try as it seems quicker on the straights.

Used to have a G70. Great tho’ underrated sports sedan, really balanced chassis. Good looking too. Raced it when GT7 first came out, but it wasn’t really competitive in Gr4. Good to see it is now.
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This is the race with the heartbreak I mentioned before



And yes, G70 seems to have amazingly smooth power delivery so chances of oversteering into a spin on exit very low. Top speed and brakes also quite impressive :) Good luck!
 
Question about ghosting for anyone that might know

Just completed a race at Monza. Finished 1st with fastest lap from pole position. I was surprised not to receive a clean race bonus at the end of the race because I had barely touched any other cars all race and didn’t serve a single penalty. Not only did I not receive a clean race bonus, my SR went down a bit, was fully S at race start

Apart from bump drafting down the front straight on one lap (as I pitted early) and getting a slight tap from a car behind in turn 1 on lap 1 I was no closer than 2 seconds to any cars

So I’m curious. There was a guy that I lapped, he had blue flags and was ghosted and he was pretty quick and decided to join me for the final two laps of the race.

Firstly, do blue flags provide slipstream and vice versa?

Secondly, does driving through and being in a ghosted car constitute damage? Because we spent much of the final two laps “inside each other” and I couldn’t seem to shake him even when I got ahead but I didn’t notice any particular “tow” when I was following him.

Great race anyways, and was cool to run with a ghost for the final two laps! But does that affect SR? Because I know bumpdrafting does have a slight affect but I only did that for maximum of one lap

Edit: also in this race, top 6 were driving 6 different cars. Which I love to see. I was Ferrari, 2nd was a Supra, 3rd was Mercedes, 4th was a Peugeot, 5th was Porsche and 6th was a Lexus
 
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My inner Glen is not finding his Zen this week. I literally can't race at the pace I can QT at. It's just going further and further backwards.

Next week I'm not going to QT and just go from the back, it's less stressful than constantly throwing poles away (95% self inflicted)


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I think my personal issue is that chasing 1/100s or 1/1000s makes me push harder taking away any smoothness I had.

And in race trim I try to replicate things like gear selection when in reality the pace is slower, the braking earlier and I shouldn't push as hard as I do for my level/ability
 
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And in race trim I try to replicate things like gear selection when in reality the pace is slower, the braking earlier and I shouldn't push as hard as I do for my level/ability
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I have no racecraft, so I'm not sure why I'm replying, except that your reasoning sounds solid to me. Racing against real people is as much about reading them, their intentions, and their abilities as it is doing the technically correct thing.

Here's some random thoughts, and again, I admit that I'm probably the last person to be teaching you anything, except that I'm about to move back to DR A, whereas you are merely a DR B driver. (For anyone else reading this, it's an inside joke we have, so don't worry about it.)
  • Make choices to help prevent or minimize contact, which means...
  • ..leaving your ego at the door and admitting when someone is just driving better and faster than you, and living with it...
  • ...which also means that with most of these tracks, when someone tries to pass you, there's very few good places for it, so contact is inevitable. But you don't have to get ticked off about it - it's just the nature of the beast.
Hmmm, now that I read these, I think they're more for me than you.
 
newmedia_dev
My inner Glen is not finding his Zen this week. I literally can't race at the pace I can QT at. It's just going further and further backwards.

Next week I'm not going to QT and just go from the back, it's less stressful than constantly throwing poles away (95% self inflicted)


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I think my personal issue is that chasing 1/100s or 1/1000s makes me push harder taking away any smoothness I had.

And in race trim I try to replicate things like gear selection when in reality the pace is slower, the braking earlier and I shouldn't push as hard as I do for my level/ability
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Well for starters I think the qualifying has static settings, so the tires start warm and the car has less fuel and the tires don’t degrade. Not sure if anyone has done the full analysis on it but my gut feeling is that, but don’t quote me on that

Secondly, in a race there are many different factors such as other drivers, the tires change temperatures constantly, heavier fuel loads, track temperature changes? Not sure on this last one, and there is much more information on the screen that takes away from your focus such as the delta, track positions etc so naturally it’s going to be harder to replicate the same environment as in qualifying.

Ultimately, qualifying and racing are two different tasks. In qualifying, your goal is to set the fastest time possible whereas racing, your goal is only to win which doesn’t necessarily require being the fastest on track, but more so the most consistent

I personally usually drive a second slower in race than qualifying, that’s simply because I’m more conservative with how much I extend the track to avoid penalties. In qualifying I can drive 100% on the limit for one lap but in race realistically you will only ever aim to drive about 90% of your limit

Saying that, I’m far better at racing than I am qualifying. I’m much better at the strategy element than I am just trying to set the fastest time I can
 
GrumpyOldMan
I have no racecraft, so I'm not sure why I'm replying, except that your reasoning sounds solid to me. Racing against real people is as much about reading them, their intentions, and their abilities as it is doing the technically correct thing.

Here's some random thoughts, and again, I admit that I'm probably the last person to be teaching you anything, except that I'm about to move back to DR A, whereas you are merely a DR B driver. (For anyone else reading this, it's an inside joke we have, so don't worry about it.)
  • Make choices to help prevent or minimize contact, which means...
  • ..leaving your ego at the door and admitting when someone is just driving better and faster than you, and living with it...
  • ...which also means that with most of these tracks, when someone tries to pass you, there's very few good places for it, so contact is inevitable. But you don't have to get ticked off about it - it's just the nature of the beast.
Hmmm, now that I read these, I think they're more for me than you.
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I think you have more than enough in the bank to teach all a lot and conversely we can teach an old dog new tricks ;)

I think you are right, I've ridden a wave of combos that favour me and made hay where sunshine's. That's great for ego but I realised I'm completing more with leaderboards than racing.

This is a wicked problem, in that by being fast on single lap or sessions, I'm not racing....now had I raced more maybe better experiences, if I'd have just beat my friends? Well next rotation I will defo be faster with that muscle memory. But the reality is I love to race and the TT effort is probably effecting that to a large degree on a personal introspection.

Being passed is fine, contact with space is fine etc that's racing on GT. Binning 10 poles out of 12 is not cool. That's a me issue not a lobby issue.

I need to reset a bit.

Edit: take this all with a pinch of salt, I'm a B driver, who at the moment is over achieving and lucky to be that ;)
 
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Question about ghosting for anyone that might know

Just completed a race at Monza. Finished 1st with fastest lap from pole position. I was surprised not to receive a clean race bonus at the end of the race because I had barely touched any other cars all race and didn’t serve a single penalty. Not only did I not receive a clean race bonus, my SR went down a bit, was fully S at race start

Apart from bump drafting down the front straight on one lap (as I pitted early) and getting a slight tap from a car behind in turn 1 on lap 1 I was no closer than 2 seconds to any cars
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Whether bump drafting affects clean race I’m not sure? But Im lead to believe bump drafting can affect your SR. I know when Le Mans is on loads of people lose there SR rating in that race.
Finch2090
So I’m curious. There was a guy that I lapped, he had blue flags and was ghosted and he was pretty quick and decided to join me for the final two laps of the race.

Firstly, do blue flags provide slipstream and vice versa?
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I’m not quick enough to lap cars 😂 but again from what i been told from a few sources it does effect slip stream. But without really testing it myself it hard to say
Finch2090
Secondly, does driving through and being in a ghosted car constitute damage? Because we spent much of the final two laps “inside each other” and I couldn’t seem to shake him even when I got ahead but I didn’t notice any particular “tow” when I was following him.
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I wouldn’t have thought so. I’ve not seen damage given the car radar if I drove through a car.
Finch2090
Great race anyways, and was cool to run with a ghost for the final two laps! But does that affect SR? Because I know bumpdrafting does have a slight affect but I only did that for maximum of one lap

Edit: also in this race, top 6 were driving 6 different cars. Which I love to see. I was Ferrari, 2nd was a Supra, 3rd was Mercedes, 4th was a Peugeot, 5th was Porsche and 6th was a Lexus
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TechnoIsLove
This is the race with the heartbreak I mentioned before



And yes, G70 seems to have amazingly smooth power delivery so chances of oversteering into a spin on exit very low. Top speed and brakes also quite impressive :) Good luck!
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Yeah, I thought the guy behind was going to punt you given the usual GT7 driving standards!

Also thought it was smart of you to let the Renault past at Rainey on lap 2. He was overdriving the car, and sure enough he went off soon after. Better than having him behind you with the constant threat of a punt.
 
cyirush
Yeah, I thought the guy behind was going to punt you given the usual GT7 driving standards!

Also thought it was smart of you to let the Renault past at Rainey on lap 2. He was overdriving the car, and sure enough he went off soon after. Better than having him behind you with the constant threat of a punt.
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Trust me, that move was only possible after 100's of other similar situations with very different outcomes! 🤣 You live and you learn!
 
smcqueen46
How does one get out of the pits at Monza without getting a penalty? Just for fun, I went into the pits a second time to see what's going on. I crept out slowly staying carefully between the lines but still got a penalty.
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Are you are taking similar precautions when you enter the pit? The penalty applies to both entry and exit.
 
Roggers
Whether bump drafting affects clean race I’m not sure? But Im lead to believe bump drafting can affect your SR. I know when Le Mans is on loads of people lose there SR rating in that race.

I’m not quick enough to lap cars 😂 but again from what i been told from a few sources it does effect slip stream. But without really testing it myself it hard to say

I wouldn’t have thought so. I’ve not seen damage given the car radar if I drove through a car.
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Thanks for your thoughts!

I wasn’t fast enough to lap him 😂 he binned it early in the race and went afk or something, he was slowly going down the straight when I approached him and he picked up and began racing me again !
 
I've never been a fan of Laguna Seca, mostly because I haven't driven it very well in the past. But right now I'm enjoying it quite a bit in the G70. The 4WD makes it a lot of fun, and although the engine sound is a little harsh, it can be fun if I ignore the harshness (if that makes sense).

It's quite possible I'll change my tune shortly, unless I can figure out how to improve my QT. I mean, we always improve throughout the week, but I'm not really sure that will happen this week, with the G70, so I may have to change cars. We'll see.

And, knock on wood, spit over my left shoulder (or is it the right shoulder), turn around twice and cuss, but the races have been clean and well-contested.

 
Mudda Chod
Are you are taking similar precautions when you enter the pit? The penalty applies to both entry and exit.
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Entry seems okay. I didn't realize that the pit lines continue almost to the chicane, so I probably strayed across the line somewhere after the dashed line ran out thinking I was out of the pits by then. I'll try again. Thanks, everyone, for your help!
 
Was really upset about this last night. Started in P5 and instantly could see a red Alfa barge it's way through from the mid-pack behind me. I started lap 2 in P3 and once again paid the price for not being aggressive...

Could have passed to make P2 once or twice but again, didn't want to make contact so I stayed put - only to be barged down to P7 in the corkscrew by the same red Alfa on lap 4 as he caught up to me with P2 in front slowing me down :(



At least on the next race, having started in P3, I did finish on top in P2, even though I was accidentally punted hard. By some miracle, I managed to control the car and keep it on track + P3 behind me slowed down just enough to allow me to keep going. I was also very happy to see that the red Alfa from the previous race got some payback by others and he finished in P6 from P4 behind me :D

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Daily A Time Trial in-game footage of current World Record.



I dropped the force feedback sensitivity to 2 (max torque still 10). I found it easier to hook the car up on the grass at the start of the chicane.
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Impressive work there!! Super job on the whole lap. I will use this as a training guide for myself.
 
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