GT7 Daily Race Discussion

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mellofello9
Holy crap...late to the party on this but is the Trophy a viable car to run in GT7?? Amazing car from a handling perspective but the lack of straight line speed made it an optimal choice NOWHERE in 'Sport. If that's the case, I might have to run a couple laps at Brands in it to blow the dust off. Miss that car but was avoiding the continued disappointment.😁

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LOL, maybe nevermind then...just saw the post from @Fezzik 🤣
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It’s quick at Brands this week. Not sure how much of that is a tune. I’m running default set up and it’s good in a straight line!

Chris30
OMG, Kyoto Miyabi is back!! I wonder what car will be used this time. I know it won't be the Mazda Roadster touring car. Monza should be lots of fun and enjoyment for the average skilled driver.
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Why do you know it won’t be the Mazda TC?

I’d be surprised if it’s not as it usually is!
 
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Whelp, I’m starting to remember why I quit at this time last year. I’m not good enough to start up front in A lobbies, and I’m getting murdered by mid-pack hot-papers who don’t know how to drive with other cars around them. I seem to take the brunt of the damage and penalties because I’m not fighting back with dirty tactics. I don’t mind losing DR, but this morning my SR dropped all the way to the bottom of A after what I thought was an incident-free race other than .5 second cutting penalty at T1/2/3 somewhere. Why would that drop my SR so drastically, while other guys are crashing me into walls and getting no punishment?

I would consider joining iRacing to have resolution for these situations, but I’m not into constantly paying for it. I wish GT7 has a more serious series that wasn’t complete trash like the World Series this past week. With no clean options available in this game, I just don’t feel like playing it.

And yet I can’t stop!
 
cyirush
It’s quick at Brands this week. Not sure how much of that is a tune. I’m running default set up and it’s good in a straight line!
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I'd imagine much like me we were competitive....then we aren't and it's all relative.

I think at brands tuning has FA to do with it. At least for me. I just don't want to grind times there anymore or race people who try to do their QT their every lap.

Kinda feeling it with Trial M now I just can't be bothered.

Edit: @Bullwinkle i quit 2 nations after brining home a solid 100 points because peeps can't even do QT right. Then the racing is awful as you can imagine.

Going in to racing knowing you'll make 5 places just because of attrition isn't even racing anymore just circulating for places.

I run 2 accounts a main B and an alt A I also have a US account but on my main account (the B one) it reminds me of how poor driving can be.
 
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newmedia_dev
Edit: @Bullwinkle i quit 2 nations after brining home a solid 100 points because peeps can't even do QT right. Then the racing is awful as you can imagine.

Going in to racing knowing you'll make 5 places just because of attrition isn't even racing anymore just circulating for places.
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For me it’s going in knowing I’ll LOSE 5 places from divebombs and collateral damage!
 
mellofello9
Holy crap...late to the party on this but is the Trophy a viable car to run in GT7?? Amazing car from a handling perspective but the lack of straight line speed made it an optimal choice NOWHERE in 'Sport. If that's the case, I might have to run a couple laps at Brands in it to blow the dust off. Miss that car but was avoiding the continued disappointment.😁

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LOL, maybe nevermind then...just saw the post from @Fezzik 🤣
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It’s definitely viable at Brands, for everyone but me.
 
Chris30
@GrumpyOldMan nice job on your wins. I'm not worried about getting any for TM, my focus is finishing in the top 5 of all the races I participate in. That's my goal. Looks like you found the magic touch! Don't worry, I brag about any wins I get, that's typically normal for anyone who gets a victory. That happens to me too, someone will lock me in the wall by ramming me and I'm the one that usually gets the punishment which isn't fair. They need to fix their penalty system TBH.
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The only time I get wins is if I start pole, or a couple back and everyone in front craps out. I just don't have the skillset to outdrive people. But that's fine by me - it's all fun. Except when it's not, which leads to:
Bullwinkle
Whelp, I’m starting to remember why I quit at this time last year. I’m not good enough to start up front in A lobbies
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Here's a honest suggestion, which I'm sure will receive a lot of criticism. If you goal is to have fun at this game, and you can't really compete in A lobbies, then tank a bunch of races to lower yourself down to B.

I'm dead serious about this. We're playing a game, after all, and if it stops being fun, then you either quit, or change something.

I've been thinking about this a lot recently, with my inability to be competitive in A lobbies, to the point that they're just not fun. It's a friggin' game, and I love playing it when I'm competitive, so when the time comes where I can't be competitive for some length of time, I intend to fix that in any way I can.

That doesn't mean I won't ever try to race in A lobbies. But if the time comes where I just don't stand a chance to even complete a race, I'll force the issue.

However, if I do decide to tank some races, I've learned not to post what I did on this forum, because lots of people take issue with that. So they don't need to know. O just want to have fun.
 
Bullwinkle
For me it’s going in knowing I’ll LOSE 5 places from divebombs and collateral damage!
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I agree. After saying that the racing has been pretty clean in dailies recently, I’ve found the driving standards at Brands poor (in B/S lobbies). Had some clown try and go around the outside of me at Westfield and he wasn’t even alongside (who does that?). I had a pit lane penalty so all he had to do was wait one more corner.

He ended up off track, blamed me, and then took me and another driver out in revenge.

How do you get to be a B/S driver with so little understanding of how to race?

I caught him up on the last lap and took him out after he tried to brake check me. Sigh.
 
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I just had a Race B that helps reaffirm my faith in the human race (or words to that effect), and also had a miracle incident:

Coming into the final chicane, I was P1 about .3 seconds in front of P2. I took the first turn, then stepped on the gas to early (or too much) and spun a little sideways. It obviously gave the guy behind me the chance to take the inside on the final turn, which he did.

I stayed on the outside, and we scraped paint a little. Perfectly fine, for both of us as far as I was concerned.

The miracle was that I touched the wall and DID NOT get a penalty. No idea why.

So I was now P2, and get this - P1 slowed down to let me take the win, because he thought he caused the "incident". I knew it never would have happened if I hadn't spun out a little, so I slowed down, in essence telling him to go ahead and take the win, which he graciously did.

He apologized in the post-race chat, I told him it was my fault, and everything was cool.

It gave me warm fuzzies that we both behaved like we cared more about integrity than just winning.
 
GrumpyOldMan
Here's a honest suggestion, which I'm sure will receive a lot of criticism. If you goal is to have fun at this game, and you can't really compete in A lobbies, then tank a bunch of races to lower yourself down to B.

I'm dead serious about this. We're playing a game, after all, and if it stops being fun, then you either quit, or change something.
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No criticism here. Trust me, I’ve considered it. It’s not so much the part about not being competitive. It’s that people are ruining my fun on purpose. If I drop to B lobbies, they’ll still be there. Maybe I could outrun them more, but it’s the game itself that’s breaking down. People are driving like irresponsible teenagers after six beers. That’s what’s ruining it for me. I can’t trust the people I’m racing with to actually want to race. They just want to win at all costs, consequences be damned. That bugs me more than anything. So many divebombs and rubs and pit maneuvers, people diving into places where there aren’t actually places, and you all know the deal. It’s just not fun to deal with.

I keep losing and keep expecting to drop to B, but hits not happening. My SR is getting murdered, but I’m doing just enough to keep my A. I was hoping getting an A+ would help, but unless I’m in some YT streamer lobby I hear that the A+ guys are just as bad. 🤢
GrumpyOldMan
I just had a Race B that helps reaffirm my faith in the human race (or words to that effect), and also had a miracle incident:

Coming into the final chicane, I was P1 about .3 seconds in front of P2. I took the first turn, then stepped on the gas to early (or too much) and spun a little sideways. It obviously gave the guy behind me the chance to take the inside on the final turn, which he did.

I stayed on the outside, and we scraped paint a little. Perfectly fine, for both of us as far as I was concerned.

The miracle was that I touched the wall and DID NOT get a penalty. No idea why.

So I was now P2, and get this - P1 slowed down to let me take the win, because he thought he caused the "incident". I knew it never would have happened if I hadn't spun out a little, so I slowed down, in essence telling him to go ahead and take the win, which he graciously did.

He apologized in the post-race chat, I told him it was my fault, and everything was cool.

It gave me warm fuzzies that we both behaved like we cared more about integrity than just winning.
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I want to race with this person. Only this person and 18 of his clones.

I got so fed up with how horrible the daily races have been (and the World Series, to be fair) that I arranged my first custom race at Spa. I cranked up the tire wear and fuel consumption, set the weather to random, and proceeded to have the best 15 lap race I’ve ever had! There was so much going on and so much to think about and gamble on with the weather. It was truly a blast! The AI is still stupid and they’re as oblivious as the daily racers I’m trying to avoid, but the actual strategy made up for it.

Because this was such fun I’m thinking about starting a league where we get to do these races more often, but where I get to kick out the problematic people. It’s just a thought . . . .
 
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I totally agree with both of you. On my alt account I have dropped down to the DR B level for one I had a night with a little too much 🍻 and actually quit a few races in a row ( which I have never done since GTS). I also had my SR drop down to SR A for the first time in GT7 on a account that I actually try to race how I want to be raced against ( my pre race greeting is”treat others how you would like to be treated”. I have another account that I use for friends and family/ myself when I am not in the best shape. I I think it may have dropped to SR B for a moment. While typing this I’m realizing I should probably be using that alt to post stuff. Maybe I’ve had a little too much tonight 🥴🍻 oh but my original thought was why purposely tank your rating when losing every race will put you back at where you’re supposed to be. Maybe it’s not as quick as someone would like but it’s how the DR system works. If you’re not being demoted back a DR level maybe that’s right where you belong. But If one is more concerned with winning than having a good race (when everyone plays nice) it makes sense. I it was said before, this is just a video game and we should all play it that brings us joy. Booze rant over. No hard feelings where meant 🍻
 
GrumpyOldMan
Here's a honest suggestion, which I'm sure will receive a lot of criticism. If you goal is to have fun at this game, and you can't really compete in A lobbies, then tank a bunch of races to lower yourself down to B.

I'm dead serious about this. We're playing a game, after all, and if it stops being fun, then you either quit, or change something.

I've been thinking about this a lot recently, with my inability to be competitive in A lobbies, to the point that they're just not fun. It's a friggin' game, and I love playing it when I'm competitive, so when the time comes where I can't be competitive for some length of time, I intend to fix that in any way I can.

That doesn't mean I won't ever try to race in A lobbies. But if the time comes where I just don't stand a chance to even complete a race, I'll force the issue.

However, if I do decide to tank some races, I've learned not to post what I did on this forum, because lots of people take issue with that. So they don't need to know. O just want to have fun.
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Completely get what you are saying, no judgment from me.

I will say though it's a sort of false economy over the long haul. Inevitably you'll perform and place better increasing your DR again but without the benefit of more experience of racing against quicker people (generally quicker, and definitely not going to say better as at all levels the quality mileage varies....)

I think the main things is just expectation management, when you transition up to A it means you've been consistent and at the sharp end of B. That step up puts you at the feather end of the arrow rather than the tip you were at. As long as you enjoy racing there is learning and progression to be had starting way down the order. You'll start to get quicker, racecraft and decision making will start to impact the quality of the races you have.

Overall it's the balancing system doing its job, we can game the system both up and down but ultimately it's about fun racing finishing positions are just a by product of luck, pace and decent lobbies.
 
Bullwinkle
No criticism here. Trust me, I’ve considered it. It’s not so much the part about not being competitive. It’s that people are ruining my fun on purpose. If I drop to B lobbies, they’ll still be there. Maybe I could outrun them more, but it’s the game itself that’s breaking down. People are driving like irresponsible teenagers after six beers. That’s what’s ruining it for me. I can’t trust the people I’m racing with to actually want to race. They just want to win at all costs, consequences be damned. That bugs me more than anything. So many divebombs and rubs and pit maneuvers, people diving into places where there aren’t actually places, and you all know the deal. It’s just not fun to deal with.

I keep losing and keep expecting to drop to B, but hits not happening. My SR is getting murdered, but I’m doing just enough to keep my A. I was hoping getting an A+ would help, but unless I’m in some YT streamer lobby I hear that the A+ guys are just as bad. 🤢

I want to race with this person. Only this person and 18 of his clones.

I got so fed up with how horrible the daily races have been (and the World Series, to be fair) that I arranged my first custom race at Spa. I cranked up the tire wear and fuel consumption, set the weather to random, and proceeded to have the best 15 lap race I’ve ever had! There was so much going on and so much to think about and gamble on with the weather. It was truly a blast! The AI is still stupid and they’re as oblivious as the daily racers I’m trying to avoid, but the actual strategy made up for it.

Because this was such fun I’m thinking about starting a league where we get to do these races more often, but where I get to kick out the problematic people. It’s just a thought . . . .
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Know how you feel! This a GT forum, but have you tried AC or ACC on console? The AI are much better imho, much quicker.

Was hoping 2 years’ ago that the AI would be faster in GT7. And they seemed to be, but I did a race at Trial Mountain where they were fast for the first few laps, then inexplicably slowed down by a couple of seconds a lap (w/I confirmed in the replay). Is that still happening?

I’d be up for a league!
 
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newmedia_dev
I think the main things is just expectation management, when you transition up to A it means you've been consistent and at the sharp end of B. That step up puts you at the feather end of the arrow rather than the tip you were at. As long as you enjoy racing there is learning and progression to be had starting way down the order. You'll start to get quicker, racecraft and decision making will start to impact the quality of the races you have.
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The problem is that I don’t enjoy the races in either group when the go-to move is to drive dirty. The quality of races is ruined by people who seem to want to experience not-racing, whatever it is they seem to be looking for.

After some custom races I’m returning to my basic belief that the AI in the game is actually teaching people to drive dirty and have horrible sportsmanship. The AI rubs, dives, and makes unnecessary contact, and the only way to win is to do the same against them. It’s a horrible setup that leads to a failed sport mode.
 
Had some great races this week in daily B helped greatly by getting in the 1.49.6** but getting a wall penalty in the first lap of usually 1.5 sec and you are at the back.
I don't usually get on with GR3 but the 911 with adjusting the tune has worked surprisingly well, it just struggled for top end on the back straight against the Mercs. It always left me wanting at least 2 more laps.
Laguna next week, not in my top ten of tracks so may not do many miles.

On a side note I run the DD pro wheel and haven't had any issues all week. I have never updated the firmware, no laptop!
Had it since June 2022 and never had a problem.
 
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Bullwinkle
The problem is that I don’t enjoy the races in either group when the go-to move is to drive dirty. The quality of races is ruined by people who seem to want to experience not-racing, whatever it is they seem to be looking for.

After some custom races I’m returning to my basic belief that the AI in the game is actually teaching people to drive dirty and have horrible sportsmanship. The AI rubs, dives, and makes unnecessary contact, and the only way to win is to do the same against them. It’s a horrible setup that leads to a failed sport mode.
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I'll counter that and say you are in lobbies where you have a choice.

Race with idiots or lose positions. It's a fairly reasonable thing. But the question has to be asked as I person have more of my own errors to blame for my results, yes a few thirsty or salty muppets but mostly everyone trying to hard.

Racing has to be about bringing it home, everything else is just drama.
 
newmedia_dev
Race with idiots or lose positions. It's a fairly reasonable thing. But the question has to be asked as I person have more of my own errors to blame for my results, yes a few thirsty or salty muppets but mostly everyone trying to hard.
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You seem to think I actually have a choice in how other people drive. I’d happily give up positions to avoid crashes but they seem to thrive on creating contact in the process, as if they want to punish me for getting passed. I guess my other alternative would be to pull over and drive in last place. That’s not racing either, and I’d rather just run hot laps on my own.
Dragonwhisky
@Bullwinkle

If you're seriously considering a league that's mostly without equine rectal orifice, ricardus nogginus drivers, you could have a look here.
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I was just looking at that. I’m seriously considering. . . .
 
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Bullwinkle
You seem to think I actually have a choice in how other people drive. I’d happily give up positions to avoid crashes but they seem to thrive on causing pain in the process. I guess my other alternative would be to pull over and drive in last place. That’s not racing either, and I’d rather just run hot laps on my own
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I don't assume that, 4000 races in, I just a view on things.

And quite honestly I don't have the same experience as you. Half of my races are top 5 and 1/4 (1000) are clean races.

So I can only offer my opinion based on experience.

Do you mate, just trying to help make you experience a better time.
 
newmedia_dev
I don't assume that, 4000 races in, I just a view on things.

And quite honestly I don't have the same experience as you. Half of my races are top 5 and 1/4 (1000) are clean races.

So I can only offer my opinion based on experience.

Do you mate, just trying to help make you experience a better time.
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I appreciate that, but too many people are trying to make me experience a worse time. That’s not something I have a choice in. I wish we had the ability to leave a lobby when we see people we know are going to cause problems, because I’ve got quite a list!
 
Bullwinkle
I appreciate that, but too many people are trying to make me experience a worse time. That’s not something I have a choice in. I wish we had the ability to leave a lobby when we see people we know are going to cause problems, because I’ve got quite a list!
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I honestly feel bad for you, and I promise I'm not questioning or doubting your experiences. I race in mostly B lobbies, with the occasional foray into A lobbies, so obviously I'm not at the level you are.

For me, I'm only rarely experiencing nasty driving. Certainly it happens, but (knock on wood) for the most part it's been good. I guess I should just be grateful that I suck enough to not move up to your level!

Start another account, and make sure you don't get back into that higher A level. I can teach you how to suck, if you need it. :lol:
 
Bullwinkle
The problem is that I don’t enjoy the races in either group when the go-to move is to drive dirty. The quality of races is ruined by people who seem to want to experience not-racing, whatever it is they seem to be looking for.

After some custom races I’m returning to my basic belief that the AI in the game is actually teaching people to drive dirty and have horrible sportsmanship. The AI rubs, dives, and makes unnecessary contact, and the only way to win is to do the same against them. It’s a horrible setup that leads to a failed sport mode.
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You're racing to go door-to-door on the track, have a good time and, if you win, bonus. They're racing to win at all costs, no exceptions. We all gotta share the same tarmac.

There's a whole group of us that find that infuriating. I, and this part is fully optional for you/others, needed to get over it. IMHO, there is no reasoning with a 'win-at-all-costs' mentality. They'll figure it out when they figure it out, and it may even be crowd-sourced. In the end, though, doing anything other than "acknowledge, move-on" was ****in' with my chi. YMMV. 😁

Race B this week has certainly tested my patience in that regard, though...:cheers:
 
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mellofello9
You're racing to go door-to-door on the track, have a good time and, if you win, bonus. They're racing to win at all costs, no exceptions. We all gotta share the same tarmac.

There's a whole group of us that find that infuriating. I, and this part is fully optional for you/others, needed to get over it. IMHO, there is no reasoning with a 'win-at-all-costs' mentality. They'll figure it out when they figure it out, and it may even be crowd-sourced. In the end, though, doing anything other than "acknowledge, move-on" was ****in' with my chi. YMMV. 😁

Race B this week has certainly tested my patience in that regard, though...:cheers:
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Yeah, I need to get over it. I know I do. I was happier when I just started back and expected to suck and was pleasantly surprised when I didn’t.

I once had a buddy say that golf is a lot of fun until you start to expect to make the shots you’re trying for. I think maybe that’s true here as well, especially when so much depends on other drivers completely outside of my control.
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A new set of races has entered the horizon:

Race A- Kyoto Miyabi, Race B- Laguna Seca, Race C- Monza

Look I'm gonna have to back off this game and racing forums, my mom wants me to start doing more around the house to help her. I have not been pulling my weight like I should around the house. So I need to step it up, I won't be on as much as I used to. I'll try a few races at Laguna maybe by Wednesday hopefully. But I have to do my chores first.
 
Bullwinkle
I appreciate that, but too many people are trying to make me experience a worse time. That’s not something I have a choice in. I wish we had the ability to leave a lobby when we see people we know are going to cause problems, because I’ve got quite a list!
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GrumpyOldMan
I honestly feel bad for you, and I promise I'm not questioning or doubting your experiences. I race in mostly B lobbies, with the occasional foray into A lobbies, so obviously I'm not at the level you are.

For me, I'm only rarely experiencing nasty driving. Certainly it happens, but (knock on wood) for the most part it's been good. I guess I should just be grateful that I suck enough to not move up to your level!

Start another account, and make sure you don't get back into that higher A level. I can teach you how to suck, if you need it. :lol:
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Been on the track with Bull and I can tell you he's a magnet for dbags.
 
Is the first time we've had Monza (with the T1 chicane) as Race C? I don't remember it having come up yet.
 
Bullwinkle
I once had a buddy say that golf is a lot of fun until you start to expect to make the shots you’re trying for.
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I'm a golfer, and no truer words have ever been spoken.

Nakano219
Is the first time we've had Monza (with the T1 chicane) as Race C? I don't remember it having come up yet.
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Yes it is, and that's pretty odd now that I think about it.
Chris30
Look I'm gonna have to back off this game and racing forums, my mom wants me to start doing more around the house to help her. I have not been pulling my weight like I should around the house. So I need to step it up, I won't be on as much as I used to.
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Well, get used to it. Change "mom" to "girlfriend/wife/boyfriend/husband/life partner" (did I miss any?) and it'll probably still be true. :lol:
 
This week at Trial Mountain definitely had its peaks-n-valleys for me, not sure about the rest of utes. 😁

Had some great finishes and some horrible, rancid, why-do-I-play-this-game finishes, too. Will be missed though, love that track. Racing was mostly great, I had my issues, they had theirs, but overall I can't complain about the competition...much. The wall penalties were tough to get used to but kept us honest, if nothing else. Not sure if they quietly turned them down or I just got 'better' at hitting walls but there were a bunch of times where I FULLY expected the 1.5 sec mark of doom but dodged the bullet somehow.🙃

Overall a two thumbs up kinda week and can't wait for the combo to come back. Won't bore y'all with a full race but these last couple of laps in a battle for first is what keeps me coming back.👍

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I was kind of hoping Race A was the Evo IX but I'll take the TTS instead.

I managed to clock in a time of 44.8 which led to me getting pole thrice in three of the sessions I did and all of them were uneventful at best but the players who were in 2nd kept me in check the whole race as I kind of struggled due to the TTS' brakes but other than that the car is fun around Kyoto Miyabi.



 
Was watching some Race Cs on Rory's stream at lunchtime. I'm sure a meta will arrive at some point but it's really nice at the moment to see the variety of cars being used. Same in the Nations races on Saturday. Well done to PD for the recent BoP update, for Gr3 at least it seems to have done a good job.
 
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