GT7 Daily Race Discussion

  • Thread starter Thread starter Pigems
  • 49,494 comments
  • 4,167,168 views
bliprunner
I don't agree with every single point made in the video, but if they were to add a Daily D with more variety it's possible more players would play online overall.

I'm a lapsed Daily player really, you spend more time racing online than me. The higher you climb up the ranks, the harder it is to complete, so you end up qualifying for longer! Something like a shuffle race or quick race just means you can jump in without the commitment.
Click to expand...
Casual seems to be a dirty word here. I'm too busy to take a game super seriously so just like to jump in and race.
 
This is the discussion thread for an article on GTPlanet:

Gran Turismo 7 Daily Races: Expect Delays on the Expressway​

A new week brings a new set of Gran Turismo 7 Daily Races, with three fresh events now live and running through next Monday. It’s a fairly standard week, with a one-make sprint, a Gr.3 middle distance, and a Gr.4 strategic finale, but the difficulty curve ramps up for Race C...
 
brockie
Yes mate, 4.30 in the morning, catch the 4.50, 5.10taves run 5.30-6.00, do my military workout til 6.30, make lunches and breakfasts and leave for work 7.30

Gotta make time for the things you need in your life
Click to expand...
What do you do for sleep? A couple of long blinks every now and then? 😂😂😂
 
Walter44
Based on the fact that I have some trophies in the game that only like 15% of players get, I extrapolate that the vast majority of people who purchase GT play even fewer total hours than I have, and fewer hours per week, and probably only a couple of sessions or less each week
Click to expand...
The player base is in the millions the weekly participants are in the 150-200k range weekly.

But there is a caveat that very few of the player base entertain online/sports mode TTs or Dailies.

It would explain the drop off in populations as the ranking progress it’s a lot more dense C-B than A-A+ etc
Mattylatvala
Lmu have 6k players daily and it's one of the most successful sim with iracing on pc, daily races on GT7 have almost 100k players in the leaderboard, there are plenty of them
Click to expand...
Yeah that’s really the thing, all are good game but one is just that much more massive than the others not better not worse just bigger
 
Mattylatvala
We're not asking to replace every single daily with longer races, we just want a long one with different weathers and a day and night cycle
Click to expand...
It needs even more creativity than that but with simple parameters, the option for extended daily Bs so it’s not 4 laps of trial
Mountain but 8, all three compounds required but each with variable wear and random track temps.

Introducing the concept of pitstops in A and B would be game changing with a slightly longer format.

A point to point race wouldn’t go a miss either. Or proper rally cross not the x games version.

Variable fuel and tyre choice (gated fine) but strat

There is so much more than rain and it’s dark they could do
 
newmedia_dev
It needs even more creativity than that but with simple parameters, the option for extended daily Bs so it’s not 4 laps of trial
Mountain but 8, all three compounds required but each with variable wear and random track temps.

Introducing the concept of pitstops in A and B would be game changing with a slightly longer format.

A point to point race wouldn’t go a miss either. Or proper rally cross not the x games version.

Variable fuel and tyre choice (gated fine) but strat

There is so much more than rain and it’s dark they could do
Click to expand...
As I said before, all we can do is waiting for Lmu,we all know deep down that pd ain't gonna touch sport mode even in gt8
 
Mattylatvala
As I said before, all we can do is waiting for Lmu,we all know deep down that pd ain't gonna touch sport mode even in gt8
Click to expand...
But LMU is dependant on PCs and hardware but GT is a million copy a game a year sales machine.

You can wait, but iRacing, ACC, Live for speed, RFactor, GT Legends etc can’t, don’t and won’t get to the levels.

Also PC gaming is a bit different to console gaming just on friction levels.

Personally I don’t think I’d go back to PC gaming and my driving is not Hypercar sprits or enduro GT3 but each to their own, I’m more a Clubsport, cup racing fan.
 
brockie
If you haven’t realised already I’m pretty regimented and I only need 7 hours, so I sleep 2130-0430, every night (including weekends 🤣)
Click to expand...
Ahhh you're a military man, that explains the discipline. I just cannot do a 930pm bed time, been a poor sleeper my whole life so I am in bed 11-7 but get less than that.

On the format of the dailies(weeklies), I think a 4th one would be a mistake, rooms would be too small. My key gripe has always been the underutilisation of different cars, we need more tracks and underutilsation of weather in Race C.
 
NevilleNobody
Ahhh you're a military man, that explains the discipline. I just cannot do a 930pm bed time, been a poor sleeper my whole life so I am in bed 11-7 but get less than that.

On the format of the dailies(weeklies), I think a 4th one would be a mistake, rooms would be too small. My key gripe has always been the underutilisation of different cars, we need more tracks and underutilsation of weather in Race C.
Click to expand...
Im a 10/10:30 guy and a 4:30/5 wake up guy, military father.

I think the population is their for a 4th race however its niche and honestly the way people quit B and C races I lean with you on that view.

I will constantly bang on that dailes should be progression scoped not novelty especially in A. Which is supposed to be the gateway but arguably the most challenging of the races but no progression pathway.

I think the daily race structure is weak and some sort of half way house for esports and generic
 
newmedia_dev
But LMU is dependant on PCs and hardware but GT is a million copy a game a year sales machine.

You can wait, but iRacing, ACC, Live for speed, RFactor, GT Legends etc can’t, don’t and won’t get to the levels.

Also PC gaming is a bit different to console gaming just on friction levels.

Personally I don’t think I’d go back to PC gaming and my driving is not Hypercar sprits or enduro GT3 but each to their own, I’m more a Clubsport, cup racing fan.
Click to expand...
It's coming next year on console, the funny part is, yes they don't have pd money and still made a game with hours long races with drivers swap in 60 players lobby,they also working on a proper career mode, oh yeah ofc with modern racing cars, pd is behind on some many aspects with all the money and resources in the world is kinda sad
 
NevilleNobody
Ahhh you're a military man, that explains the discipline. I just cannot do a 930pm bed time, been a poor sleeper my whole life so I am in bed 11-7 but get less than that.

On the format of the dailies(weeklies), I think a 4th one would be a mistake, rooms would be too small. My key gripe has always been the underutilisation of different cars, we need more tracks and underutilsation of weather in Race C.
Click to expand...

I’m not a military man, I’m just regimented 😁

But I agree 100%, I could only do one daily for the week, and I like how it grows on you, the racing, the track,

At the end of gt sport, dailies didn’t change for s month! I loved that, I can remember gr4 megane at Sardegna A for a whole month! 😁 and dragon trail seaside return in a gr3 Atenza.
 
Mattylatvala
It's coming next year on console, the funny part is, yes they don't have pd money and still made a game with hours long races with drivers swap in 60 players lobby,they also working on a proper career mode, oh yeah ofc with modern racing cars, pd is behind on some many aspects with all the money and resources in the world is kinda sad
Click to expand...
Rfactor and iRacing are 20 years old, ACC is 15 years old now.

They have refined racing and physics to be honest but none of them are at the scale of GT, I’ve played them all on PC and ACC console.

Better racing formats yes, better console racing. No.

I honestly think there isn’t a scale market for LMU on console the same as PMR or ACC. Consoles aren’t really where their strength is, which is sim racing. GT crosses bounds that is open to all car lovers not just racing mused class etc
 
Mattylatvala
It's coming next year on console, the funny part is, yes they don't have pd money and still made a game with hours long races with drivers swap in 60 players lobby,they also working on a proper career mode, oh yeah ofc with modern racing cars, pd is behind on some many aspects with all the money and resources in the world is kinda sad
Click to expand...
You have to remember where PD's priorities are. You mention budget, but all the money in the world can't buy the knowledge of what makes an engaging career mode, or a deep understanding of the online gaming dynamics.

Polyphony's dedication to aesthetics is a philosophy they should be credited for committing themselves to, but can easily be perceived by the gaming industry at large as old-fashioned and naïve. They are an outlier developer in that sense.

At no point have I considered questioning the studio's ability to provide quality content, but it's important to frame your expectations from an appropriate perspective.
 
brockie
If you haven’t realised already I’m pretty regimented and I only need 7 hours, so I sleep 2130-0430, every night (including weekends 🤣)
Click to expand...
Ah I miss those days pre sim racing where I'd be tucked up before 10pm and up at 5!

My racing only starts post 7.30/8pm once I've done bath and bed time with the kids so I'm in a terrible habit now of "one more race" leaving me constantly sleep deprived as my 5am wake up hasn't changed. just the bed time has shifted to midnight 🤦‍♂️
 
Yeah I start 9pm, kids are older now at 14 and 10 but younger bloke likes to watch The Simpsons with me before bed and who am I to say no? Before I know it he will be taller than me like his brother.

So gave Deep Forrest a whirl, watching tidges video earlier today and seeing the audi and vipers I thought man, wonder if the Ford GT will be competitive? I sign in and boom, its top of the tree. Managed to get my QT to a 27.8 but it feels half a second off the pace as I was P14 start in a mostly DRA room. That went OK, survived my way to p9 but next race was a P7 start in a B room and I was punted, finishing p15 and donating a lot of DR.

As expected, I am not feeling the track, im either over or under driving, not letting the car glide through sector 2 enough and carrying speed.

Saw a few blokes race the Alfa and as a ling time Alfa man I have it a whirl, got my QT down to 27.6, I suspect the GT is faster but ill race the Alfa a few times for the heck of it as it is sonrarely competitive.
 
I want to race this week but only know Catalunya which is race C so that's a non-starter for me. Decided to learn Deep Forest as I'm not keen on Tokyo or street circuits in general.

Hopefully race in B later in the week when I'm consistent and safe enough round there. The Porsche seems the most comfy to me so far.

@Stringerbell totally understand the whole cycle of "just one more" followed by "I must stop this madness" the following morning haha!
 
newmedia_dev
It needs even more creativity than that but with simple parameters, the option for extended daily Bs so it’s not 4 laps of trial
Mountain but 8, all three compounds required but each with variable wear and random track temps.

Introducing the concept of pitstops in A and B would be game changing with a slightly longer format.

A point to point race wouldn’t go a miss either. Or proper rally cross not the x games version.

Variable fuel and tyre choice (gated fine) but strat

There is so much more than rain and it’s dark they could do
Click to expand...
Hey you leave race B alone 😁 it’s perfectly fine as it is, for my liking A & B are perfect and after watching tidgney video I’d agree just one more lap could be added as the wait between races at GVH was a bit long but also gave you some time to qualify. I like the sprint part, where qualifying is super important to hone in. I personally have no interest in long races, weather changes, pit stops. The pick up and play is what I prefer, but extra races with these things for you lot is fine, I just want a race A which is road car random or truck/radical etc and a race B which is dry sunny and gr3/4 alternating, which it mostly is already so I’m happy as is.
Stringerbell
Ah I miss those days pre sim racing where I'd be tucked up before 10pm and up at 5!

My racing only starts post 7.30/8pm once I've done bath and bed time with the kids so I'm in a terrible habit now of "one more race" leaving me constantly sleep deprived as my 5am wake up hasn't changed. just the bed time has shifted to midnight 🤦‍♂️
Click to expand...
Yeah I’m still a little governed by the kids bed times, but after that’s done I’m too tired to do any racing at night, so all mine is done early! Defo wakes the brain up 😂

NevilleNobody
Yeah I start 9pm, kids are older now at 14 and 10 but younger bloke likes to watch The Simpsons with me before bed and who am I to say no? Before I know it he will be taller than me like his brother.

So gave Deep Forrest a whirl, watching tidges video earlier today and seeing the audi and vipers I thought man, wonder if the Ford GT will be competitive? I sign in and boom, its top of the tree. Managed to get my QT to a 27.8 but it feels half a second off the pace as I was P14 start in a mostly DRA room. That went OK, survived my way to p9 but next race was a P7 start in a B room and I was punted, finishing p15 and donating a lot of DR.

As expected, I am not feeling the track, im either over or under driving, not letting the car glide through sector 2 enough and carrying speed.

Saw a few blokes race the Alfa and as a ling time Alfa man I have it a whirl, got my QT down to 27.6, I suspect the GT is faster but ill race the Alfa a few times for the heck of it as it is sonrarely competitive.
Click to expand...
Yeah I’m kinda glad I haven’t got to endure DF this week, it’s the only track from the OG days which I can’t stand, the left, right, right before the small tunnel is just chaos and the end of the straight into the hairpin is also a terrible corner. By contrast deep forest reverse is an amazing track and probably on of my faves.

That race A looks a bit crazy too at high speed although it is quite a nice drive so I reckon on my return will be a little of each and I’m not qualifying any more so back of the pack starts.
 
benjoi84
You have to remember where PD's priorities are. You mention budget, but all the money in the world can't buy the knowledge of what makes an engaging career mode, or a deep understanding of the online gaming dynamics.

Polyphony's dedication to aesthetics is a philosophy they should be credited for committing themselves to, but can easily be perceived by the gaming industry at large as old-fashioned and naïve. They are an outlier developer in that sense.

At no point have I considered questioning the studio's ability to provide quality content, but it's important to frame your expectations from an appropriate perspective.
Click to expand...
Pd used to make the best career mode in the sim genre now they're doing menus, gt sport completely overhauled online in the series and for GT7 they decided just to copy pasted from sport instead of improving it, I don't expect pd to stay stagnant when they used to innovate
 
Last edited:
Already a better result yesterday than in the whole of last week: Suzuka wash harsh on me, my best finish was a P7 (I only raced from the back of the field to be fair). My best fastest lap was still more than 1.5 seconds from the real fastest. In most races it was +2 or even 3 seconds. Yesterday after only 20 mins of qualifying to check out the new daily race C, I jumped into a race and drove myself from P9 to P5. The Citroen GT is lovely to drive through there.

After 2 years of Sport mode racing I think I've become a better driver, but the people around me also. That's not too strange of course. A year ago I was often qualifying for an hour, barely scraping into the top 3-4 % of the top time. Now on some track/car combinations I can set a time within 3 % of the world's best within 15 minutes, and yesterday even within 2,5 % with several tenths to come. This on a track that until recently I loathed to try. I only raced here the last time it was a daily race C (which was also group 4 cars if I remember correctly). I was up 3-4 tenths in several laps but I took track limit penalties. I am still only a low DR B driver, so everyone around me must've learned a lot as well!

So my main account I drove an 1:49:7 but a low-ish 1:49 is possible. Decided to try 1 race on the alt account, qualifying for 2 laps on the hard tire just for fun. That put me P9 on a grid with some DR A and high DR B drivers. I started on hards. Many people pitted after 1 or 2 laps, I didn't know the tire wear yet so I didn't dare to do that. I think they undercut me this way, because when I pitted for mediums after 3 laps, I was P15. Despite the feeling I had that I was driving okay-ish, that felt harsh. But in my stint on mediums I overtook one after the other, many times due to mistakes or strategy, but also 2 or 3 nice clean overtakes on track. The P5 finish felt nice! Will definitely try this race again, hopefully this afternoon.

I recognize the talk in this topic about how much time people have for racing. I have a little kid myself (and a second one on the way, woohoo!!), and as much as I don't mind getting out of bed early, I am not going to exchange sleep for racing. So in the morning it is directly to work or directly parenting. On Monday and Friday I can squeeze some races in during office hours. Maybe 3 races in total over those 2 days. The rest is only evenings. I'm just racing from the couch, with my wife often sitting next to me, which isn't beneficial for both. Often I just skip racing because it feels weird being in a tense race while she is reading a book beside me. So I only race on 1 or 2 nights when she is busy elsewhere, and then only 1 or 2 races per evening. It's not enough to be a really quick driver, but it's enough to have fun.


edit: I didn't check the state of my tires yesterday after the only race I did. Do people think pitting after lap 2 or even lap 1 is feasible?
 
Last edited:
The wife and I settled on an arrangement to compromise as I find TV REALLY boring (There hasn't been a good show since Breaking Bad IMHO) and prefer movies. So Monday through Thursday night I go to the basement and ride the rig, Friday through Sunday night I am with the mrs on the main floor couch. This also allows my oldest to play with his mates online as they can stay up later on Friday and Saturday nights.

Lately I have been preferring Race C because it's less likely to end in tears, folks are a little more settled as they have more time, Race B feels very helter skelter. However I've doe a lot of Barcelona and a lot of GT Citroen so a change is needed.
 
Jordan
This is the discussion thread for an article on GTPlanet:

Gran Turismo 7 Daily Races: Expect Delays on the Expressway​

A new week brings a new set of Gran Turismo 7 Daily Races, with three fresh events now live and running through next Monday. It’s a fairly standard week, with a one-make sprint, a Gr.3 middle distance, and a Gr.4 strategic finale, but the difficulty curve ramps up for Race C...
Click to expand...
That purple car crashing in the article photo is from my front bumper, I'm internet famous! 😇😀

This is a crazy race, I want to try it again tonight, the DR will take a big hit but who cares!
 
GOTMAXPOWER
That purple car crashing in the article photo is from my front bumper, I'm internet famous! 😇😀

This is a crazy race, I want to try it again tonight, the DR will take a big hit but who cares!
Click to expand...
From what I remember, they have a habit of putting themselves centre stage!

And yes, I agree. It's a crazy race, but quintessentially Gran Turismo!
 
A pleasing anti-meta win in Race B today from P2 on the grid - clean race bonus too, unlike the two behind me! Took a clean lead at turn 1, and wasn't challenged the whole race.

First race so far where I've seen anything other than the 911 or R8 win - the Ford GT doesn't seem to be as competitive in race as it is in qualifying.

20260414_154152.webp
 
Yeah interesting mix of cars. I have a theory the issue with the GT is a lack of acceleration due to long gearing. It's got really long legs and rotates OK as it is MR but gears are really long.
 
Famine
Which isn't so far away from what the introduction to that pinned thread actually says:



Sure, you shouldn't have to take any steps to optimise your local network environment, but if you do you might find your experience far less frustrating than your earlier message seems to express. I'd also suggest that if they've sent out the Two router, sack it off and dig the One out instead.

I guess it's your call, really. I'd spend the tiny amount of time doing it (and it'll benefit everything else connected to your router), as I find frustration to be quite irritating and prefer to not be frustrated.
Click to expand...
When single other game, device and app and everything else on my network works perfectly fine, you're not going to convince me that GT7 hard crashing at the end of/while matchmaking, being unable to save or play replays without crashing, being unable to load my garage with custom liveries without restarting and a multitude of other issues, is because of my ISP. Nothing about the network environment has changed, nor has my ISP, up or download speeds, ping, packet loss. The only thing that's changed to cause these issues was the last update.

I played for 2 and a half hours at most this afternoon and hard crashed 3 times, with error reports sent.

I want to play GT7, it's one of my favourite games but at this point it's unbearable.
 

Latest Posts

Back