GT7 Online Time Trial/Lap Time Challenge Discussion

[crome]

Thank you mate, appreciate it. I had another run last night and saw a 17.866 optimal, and can totally see a path to going faster than my current PB, so I’m going to keep going. I’m done with the Mazda at RBR so there’s at least another couple of days before something else takes my interest. Of course, putting all the optimal sectors together and actually nailing a faster time is something completely different from seeing an optimal split, but let’s see what happens. So many places to lose tenths quite quickly...

Edit: So near yet so far. Managed an improvement, but started to notice a few things. I know that there's debate on tire temp, so this may be just placebo, and it may just all be a function of me controlling my excitement but there seems to be some benefit in "cold tire" runs. Did a few stints today with some restarts, and each time, my first lap was the fastest. On the last stint of 10 laps, a few things happened...

Lap 1 - tiny bollard clip at Les Combes but otherwise epic lap - 2:17.860 invalidated
Laps 2-5 - reasonably consistent but with some minor mistakes, but a tenth here and there and the lap disappears
Lap 6 - so close! An improvement, but a little bit of wheelspin out of the bus-stop means it's a 17.922 and a new PB and not 17.8xx. In truth, I was on the back foot after an avg sector 1
Laps 7-9 - rubbish and still thinking about lap 6 and what could have been. Lap 9 in particular was a cruise through sectors 2 and 3 (so that I could finish my coffee if nothing else)
Lap 10 - Strong sector 1 (39.474) , epic sector 2 (1:02.310) but then coming out of Stavelot, I put my outside tires beyond the curb and onto the green. Lap was still valid but tires were dirty, so when I turned into Curve Paul Frere, the front washed wide and the lap was lost. It was at that point that I decided I should go do something else for a bit

Great progress mate! Like @Gomario JSP I am a frequent restarter so I don't really have an opinion on tire temp. For me the first lap is a bit faster simply because I take a wider line at the chicane before start / finish, which saves a few hundredths. Not all that significant in the grand scheme of things though.

We have pretty much the same speed in S1 (where I would consider anything below 39.550 "fast") and S3 (below 36.0). It's S2 where I might have a slight edge atm. My current PB was a 1:02.205, and I had a 1:02.089 as well. It's still my most inconsistent sector, but I'm getting there

I am definitely in diminishing returns territory now though. Unbelievable how some people are over a second faster 🤯

My lap - ABS default, CSA strong (not that it matters), TCS 1

 

[Gomario JSP]

Great progress mate! Like @Gomario JSP I am a frequent restarter so I don't really have an opinion on tire temp. For me the first lap is a bit faster simply because I take a wider line at the chicane before start / finish, which saves a few hundredths. Not all that significant in the grand scheme of things though.

We have pretty much the same speed in S1 (where I would consider anything below 39.550 "fast") and S3 (below 36.0). It's S2 where I might have a slight edge atm. My current PB was a 1:02.205, and I had a 1:02.089 as well. It's still my most inconsistent sector, but I'm getting there

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I am definitely in diminishing returns territory now though. Unbelievable how some people are over a second faster 🤯

My lap - ABS default, CSA strong (not that it matters), TCS 1

Very fast mate, well done!, no way i am going to achieve that!

Below 1.00% yet.... 299

 

[Vule]

ABS default, CSA strong

ABS ok, but have you tried it without CSA? I usually only go for CSA on slidey road cars and I have tried it here also, but it numbs the car so much, it's undrivable for me with assists, much less sharpness in turning on an already understeery car... For sure it can help with some slow corner exit oversteer but that's only the first and last turns here...

 

[crome]

ABS ok, but have you tried it without CSA?

Actually no, but now I definitely will

I usually only go for CSA on slidey road cars and I have tried it here also, but it numbs the car so much, it's undrivable for me with assists, much less sharpness in turning on an already understeery car... For sure it can help with some slow corner exit oversteer but that's only the first and last turns here...

My usual stance has been that CSA helps with slidey cars, and does nothing good or bad at all for race cars, so I never bothered to turn it off. But what you say makes a lot of sense.

 

[Gomario JSP]

ABS ok, but have you tried it without CSA? I usually only go for CSA on slidey road cars and I have tried it here also, but it numbs the car so much, it's undrivable for me with assists, much less sharpness in turning on an already understeery car... For sure it can help with some slow corner exit oversteer but that's only the first and last turns here...

yeah sure, give the man some more advice .....

 

[Carlos Fandango]

@crome - thanks, agree on sector 1, sector 3 I've started to understand how to get sub 36.0, but it's touch and go at the end, but 1'02.3 is as fast as I've been in the middle. I know I overdrive the car in places and when I dial that back the speed comes, but the Pouhon entry is probably where the biggest inconsistency comes from. Epic lap mate!

@Vule - for goodness sake man, be quiet!! In all seriousness though, I'm not a CSA user, and he's faster than me, so what do I know! 🤷‍♂️

Edit: @Gomario JSP - thanks for the encouragement my friend, but yes, it’s been a while since this much effort and concentration was required to stay in the top 600!

 

[Stormbreaker]

Motivated by my country 🇮🇹 nailing gold after gold 🥇 at the Winter Olympics ❄️ i pushed the limit with the Mazda 🏁

 

[NAXEHT]

Pretty cool car to wrestle around, got it done in less than 100 kms which was very nice.

 

[pabloprp69]

I'm really struggling with the Porsche at Spa. Barely managed to get under 2:17s, but I'm losing loads of time on the downhill hairpin and the immediate left hander after. The rest of the lap is ok ish, except for the right turn right before the back straight. Sometimes I can go full throttle, but a bit too early or too late on the steering and the lap is gone.

I've always sucked bad at spa, but this combo is really trying my patience.

Also, can't seem to understand the love this car is getting. I can't seem to rotate nearly enough.

My PB is 2:17.982 and I'm starting to think it's time to let it go.

 

[bigfluffy888]

The funny thing is that on turn 9 (Rivage) and Turn 10 (La Double-Gauche), I must start my turn-in much deeper than what feels natural to me. If I follow my instinct and turn-in earlier I lose significant amounts of time.

Indeed @pabloprp69 taking that turn 15 (Stavelot) at full throttle is important as you’re basically running the back third of the course flat-out. As I come around the bend I have to eye-up that inside bollard and go for it…. my number of invalidated laps here is painful to think about 😂

I somehow managed a 2:17.854 - going to keep going! At least until Thursday 😂

I had to look-up the turn names above. I apologize for any errors or misspelling 🙂

 

[luv2drive]

I'm really struggling with the Porsche at Spa. Barely managed to get under 2:17s, but I'm losing loads of time on the downhill hairpin and the immediate left hander after. The rest of the lap is ok ish, except for the right turn right before the back straight. Sometimes I can go full throttle, but a bit too early or too late on the steering and the lap is gone.

I've always sucked bad at spa, but this combo is really trying my patience.

Also, can't seem to understand the love this car is getting. I can't seem to rotate nearly enough.

My PB is 2:17.982 and I'm starting to think it's time to let it go.

That's not a bad PB! If I could get into the 2:17s I would definitely be done

 

[Gomario JSP]

Pretty cool car to wrestle around, got it done in less than 100 kms which was very nice.

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You just had to huh .....
Nice result ( with probl. a zero less then my attempts )

 

[NevilleNobody]

As expected, as soon as we add downforce and go to a legit track, I am back on the pace. Safe gold in 7 laps at Spa. First time in the 992, sounds very different, nice to turn up the volume but I don't feel the sound is accurate vs the 991 which sounds more Porsche cup car to me. Handling is very user friendly, touch of understeer but you can really pin the throttle and it s an easy car to save a slide.

 

[Vule]

as soon as we add downforce and go to a legit track, I am back on the pace

For me it's more like back of the grid

I don't know what to say, I have an ok time which I set literally on day 1 session 1, 2:17.525, but no improvement in the next couple of sessions.

S2 is killing me, I can do a .370-380 S1, I can do a very nice first and second corners in S2, but the Turn 10 - Turn 11 combo destroys me every single time, I lose so much compared to top ghosts, it's ridiculous. I know I don't possess the needed "on throttle - off throttle - on throttle" skill which is obviously neccessary for this car to rotate and not understeer into oblivion on full power, but still, I didn't expect such a difference. And of course, the famous Pouhon, it's such a hit and miss, one milisecond too early on the brakes and turn in - you mount the curb and wash wide, one milisecond too late, bye bye laptime... I may give this one more shot tonight, but I can't wait to see what new TT is waiting for us tomorrow.

As for the Mazda, P14 currently with a 1:32.564, I know I have a .450 lap in me, that would be P5, but that would also take probably a 3-4 hour marathon to pull together, so - nope This is good enough.

 

[MP81]

I can certainly say my knees hurt a lot less being on vacation and not having driven nightly on GT7 since Saturday.

My pedal upgrades passed Customs like last Thursday or something...and haven't moved since, so while I was hoping they'd be at my house before I return, that's potentially not likely. Yay!

At least blasting the area around the pot on the gas pedal with contact cleaner seemed to temporarily fix the fluttering at WOT.

 

[pabloprp69]

S2 is killing me, I can do a .370-380 S1, I can do a very nice first and second corners in S2, but the Turn 10 - Turn 11 combo destroys me every single time, I lose so much compared to top ghosts, it's ridiculous. I know I don't possess the needed "on throttle - off throttle - on throttle" skill which is obviously neccessary for this car to rotate and not understeer into oblivion on full power, but still, I didn't expect such a difference. And of course, the famous Pouhon, it's such a hit and miss, one milisecond too early on the brakes and turn in - you mount the curb and wash wide, one milisecond too late, bye bye laptime...

That's literally me, man. I feel you. I had a few laps that managed to stick to the ghost on turns 10-11, but of course I had to mess up the turn leading to the back straight.

I tried so many different approaches for those two turns, but I can't seem to get a decent exit out of turns 10-11. If I nail one I screw the other, and vice versa. Spa is just so technical, I don't really understand the flow of the track. Had a tiny improvement yesterday, but still stuck at 17.958.

Btw, mega congrats on your P4! 👏🏻 🎉

 

[NevilleNobody]

You guys in the 17's saying you suck and cannot get your head around this combo need some time in a room full of mirrors.

 

[Vule]

You guys in the 17's saying you suck and cannot get your head around this combo need some time in a room full of mirrors.

It's just a matter of perspective and expectations. If you nail a number of top 20 and top 10 positions in the world in the last 5 time trials and suddenly you are P240, how can you be happy?

 

[peniu]

Not contributing here too much lately, but still following the thread and it's great to see the usual suspects here being fast as ever . Keep it up aliens! 👽

I still only really do weekly challenges and time trials in GT7, EA WRC and lately LMU are getting most of my seat time. However, to be fair, it's impressive that the game is still giving me joy after spending around 1500 hours on it over last couple of years and it contributed a lot to renewing my passion for simracing.

I borrowed PS VR2 from a friend some time ago but did not fell in love - it was way too much hassle to start playing for the bluriness I was experiencing, especially considering that I have to setup wheel stand and connect everything before each session anyway. Instead of going down VR route I got myself a different toy though - new wheel (and pedals if I did not share it here!).

 

[Vule]

Ah yes, the Simnets, my next purchase, already in my shopping cart Did you go for a full Podium set or the CS hub for the wheel?

 

[linksracer]

Not much to say here. First 100km gave me the time, next 100km gave me 0 improvements. Could've gone to sleep 50 minutes earlier.

Hoping that's the last time we get Redbull Ring as a combo.

 

[KK78]

Went back to RBR today and tried to improve my Gold I set on day one, managed it, and it might be a PB 😎

 

[peniu]

Ah yes, the Simnets, my next purchase, already in my shopping cart Did you go for a full Podium set or the CS hub for the wheel?

I went full "give Fanatec as little as possible" and got Fanatec's PBME + Simube's S-Hub, Advanced Paddle Module, rim and QR2 Shared a bit more in the hardware forum.

 

[luv2drive]

Ran another stint at Spa today after work. A fair improvement, but I'm not sure how much more juice I can squeeze out of this turnip.

That 1/3 of a second that I need to get into the 17s is going to take a lot of laps I'm afraid... if it's even achievable.

But, I've still got a week so should have some time to try.

 

[NAXEHT]

I squeezed out a little more time... Still more to find but couldn't quite make it happen. Really tricky to properly carry the speed with you at the two turns just after the second split.

Gave the 911 at Spa a shot as well, just a 17.693 so far. Honestly felt like a quite solid lap but still so far away. I know Gr.3 isn't my forte but still... kinda demoralising to be trailing so much.

 

[Stephan]

Edit: I believe its the third time now they got the wrong name/year used for the car in the new time trial with the first being the Shelby GT350R '65 but the car used is the Ford Shelby GT350R '16 around Laguna Seca then the second being the wrong year used for the Lancia Delta HF Integrale Rally Car back when said car is used for the time trial.

 

[Gomario JSP]

The M3 at Autopolis, this could be very good on sports hards!
I am looking forward to this combo! that's going to be some Nokia-setup-gold laps this evening yelling "oversteeeeeer""

Without motivation i did do a few laps in the GT3 this morning, with 2 invalidated mid .8xx laps and with a ( slightly ) faster PB in terms of a .916 wich i did yesterday evening i turned of the PS5 , i am going to hammer the M3 and leave the 911 in the garage

 

[Jeje6410]

Ah yes, the Simnets, my next purchase, already in my shopping cart Did you go for a full Podium set or the CS hub for the wheel?

You'll see, you won't regret it. It's pure pleasure because you can adjust your brake and accelerator pedals exactly how you want them thanks to the SimNet software and also thanks to the springs and elastomers for the brake, offering endless combinations. Honestly, I don't regret making this purchase at all.

@peniu That GT3 Endurance wheel is really beautiful. I'm tempted to buy it, but it's still quite expensive. What kind of base and chassis do you have?

 

[Jeje6410]

The M3 at Autopolis, this could be very good on sports hards!
I am looking forward to this combo! that's going to be some Nokia-setup-gold laps this evening yelling "oversteeeeeer""

Without motivation i did do a few laps in the GT3 this morning, with 2 invalidated mid .8xx laps and with a ( slightly ) faster PB in terms of a .916 wich i did yesterday evening i turned of the PS5 , i am going to hammer the M3 and leave the 911 in the garage

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You are impressively consistent, my dear Jomar !!!!! Bravo bravo à toi 👏👏👏👏👏

 

[DDK-Racing]

Hoping that's the last time we get Redbull Ring as a combo.

Wouldn't hold my breath if I were you