GT7 Online Time Trial/Lap Time Challenge Discussion

[Gomario JSP]

Mmm.... ok challenge, but it handles less great than I expected....

But I truelly can't stand the way they implemented the anti engine braking shenanigans.....I understand that the über yeeeting in a lower gear is eliminated but for example, I would like to hit second gear to rotate into T7 by engine brake but that's kind of difficult now 😡🤣🤣

 

[Stormbreaker]

Happy with that 🏁

 

[Vule]

What a horrible handling car, I hated every single corner. Not a bad time but I still have 2 tenths in it, I easily lose that on the backstraight exit.

 

[newmedia_dev]

Mmm.... ok challenge, but it handles less great than I expected....

But I truelly can't stand the way they implemented the anti engine braking shenanigans.....I understand that the über yeeeting in a lower gear is eliminated but for example, I would like to hit second gear to rotate into T7 by engine brake but that's kind of difficult now 😡🤣🤣

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I will say for me in VR it’s not as jarring as you brake more sensitively naturally like in a real car so the engine braking is more shifted to the coasting zone rather than the entry phase for me.

It’s the god awful big turbo oversteer that is annoying as hell for me.

 

[Tidgney]

Here's the Spa guide for those interested! I chose the Audi R18 as it has better handling than the porsche in my opinion!

 

[ZevZoq]

Some fantastic footage for inspiration!

 

[Gomario JSP]

I will say for me in VR it’s not as jarring as you brake more sensitively naturally like in a real car so the engine braking is more shifted to the coasting zone rather than the entry phase for me.

It’s the god awful big turbo oversteer that is annoying as hell for me.

Yeah, I can't imagine a R34 handles like this, but then again.... maby it does, I never had thr opportunity to yeeet one 🤣

 

[Ian JB]

Some fantastic footage for inspiration!

Ohhh man that makes my bits and pieces tingle!!!

Merry Christmas!

Best regards to all here.

Ian.

 

[bigfluffy888]

I’m looking forward to the next two time trials, although reading about the changes to engine breaking are making me a little apprehensive. I tried to incorporate more engine breaking into my driving as it is clearly faster in some cases then waiting for the revs to come down… did PD make a noticeable change? Or maybe I’m overthinking it.

 

[newmedia_dev]

I’m looking forward to the next two time trials, although reading about the changes to engine breaking are making me a little apprehensive. I tried to incorporate more engine breaking into my driving as it is clearly faster in some cases then waiting for the revs to come down… did PD make a noticeable change? Or maybe I’m overthinking it.

Don’t over think it, you don’t lose time you just need to be smoother that’s it, rather than forcing artificial turn in or line tightening.

banging down the box was just a quick short cut to certain corner entries.

 

[Wilsonson]

I'm kind of on a roll. Never using TC unless I am absolutely hopeless has already paid off. I'm much smoother on the throttle now. Feels kind of like when I learned to trail break but the other way around now.

Spa is always fun. I usually have a tough time in Gr. 1 and up due to them aliens being able to do much more alien things in them. That only seems to be true when there are lots of high speed corners involved like at Le Mans. Or maybe I'm just good at Spa I don't know.

Since I already felt good I attempted the Squealstar again. Nice improvement.

I found a new method to get decent shots from replays without the need to enter the photo mode (I don't like it).

Spoiler

I used to switch to the cinematic mode and try to pause when the picture was good. Often that was both cumbersome and unsatisfactory.

Now I switch to chase cam and then use the right stick to find a nice angle. That approach is also a bit limited but at least the car is in focus and you can somewhat decide where to point the camera. I fortunately you can't change perspective anymore once you have paused the replay.

 

[Vule]

Now this is a bit better, still a tenth in it, I figured out almost everything except the long left hander where I understeer into oblivion if I don't modulate the throttle massively, and if I do, the top ghost just walks away... And of course, still struggling with the exit to the back straight. But progress has been made somewhat

 

[JoaoSilva]

really enjoyed both TT, driving a Gr.1 car around Spa is always a blast.

these were my first gold timed and they will do for now, I'll try to grind a bit more in the weekend.

 

[MP81]

Well, that was disappointing, 151 laps up until the end of it and could not beat my best time from last night.

Also found out my gas pedal is just starting to flake out, so who knows how many potential laps were ruined simply by the fact foot to the floor did not equal 100% throttle (close, but not 100).

Few good whacks seemed to clear that up, but I expect it'll be back. Maybe it's just full of dog hair.

Ah well. Was 97th when I went to bed and finished 108th (so another new PB). 11 people just had to wake up and go faster so I couldn't get an Alien badge 🤣.

 

[Gerarghini]

I saw Gr.1 and went then I saw the NISMO LM is not on the list and went

NISMO GT-R LM drivers are the most oppressed members of Gran Turismo it seems

 

[2cam16]

I didn't think the Mines would be tough at Tsukuba. I'll reattempt if I get bumped.
Spa on the other hand was fun. Less than a handful of laps in and I know there's more to find. Maybe next week.

 

[Gomario JSP]

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Now this is a bit better, still a tenth in it, I figured out almost everything except the long left hander where I understeer into oblivion if I don't modulate the throttle massively, and if I do, the top ghost just walks away... And of course, still struggling with the exit to the back straight. But progress has been made somewhat

That's a descent entry!

I still can't figure it out, and after 10 laps this morning i gave up on the thing.
my PB lap was with 1th gear but my brain can't handle the fact that i'm not in controle of shifting down anymore, if i want 1th or 2nd gear it should be there, not waiting TO long for the game to enable it, i'm driving a high rev GTR, not a first gen. padle shift car,
I'm for anti-shennanigan don't get me wrong, but this is just annoying.

So tried staying in 2nd like P1 but was all over the place, went over to my least favo combo GR1

 

[Gogga]

That's a descent entry!

I still can't figure it out, and after 10 laps this morning i gave up on the thing.
my PB lap was with 1th gear but my brain can't handle the fact that i'm not in controle of shifting down anymore, if i want 1th or 2nd gear it should be there, not waiting TO long for the game to enable it, i'm driving a high rev GTR, not a first gen. padle shift car,
I'm for anti-shennanigan don't get me wrong, but this is just annoying.

So tried staying in 2nd like P1 but was all over the place, went over to my least favo combo GR1

This makes me sad...

I have yet to try this new update, but from reading your post, I have a strong feeling that I am going to struggle at drifting. I always bang down the gears to get the back end out, but with this change to the way shifts happen, I doubt it will be possible any longer.

I'm looking forward to trying out the Tsukuba trial over the weekend. One of my all time favorite tracks.

 

[Vule]

That's a descent entry!

I still can't figure it out, and after 10 laps this morning i gave up on the thing.
my PB lap was with 1th gear but my brain can't handle the fact that i'm not in controle of shifting down anymore, if i want 1th or 2nd gear it should be there, not waiting TO long for the game to enable it, i'm driving a high rev GTR, not a first gen. padle shift car,
I'm for anti-shennanigan don't get me wrong, but this is just annoying.

So tried staying in 2nd like P1 but was all over the place, went over to my least favo combo GR1

I didn't use 1st, can't be bothered, because sometimes it downshifts, sometimes it doesn't, and also it's the same when upshifting, if I'm in second it's easy, just one click and off we go, but if I go down to first, sometimes I can double upshift to 3rd, sometimes it doesn't want to accept the command and I stay in second (not knowingly) and I just ruin a lap, because you must use 3rd for all the exits.

And I agree with you for the downshifts, the way they implemented it sucks, for example here, turn 3 (the awkward right hander) you need 2nd just for a moment to rotate the car, but if you downshift a milisecond early it just doesn't want to do it and you understeer in 3rd and ruin a lap.

 

[Gomario JSP]

This makes me sad...

I have yet to try this new update, but from reading your post, I have a strong feeling that I am going to struggle at drifting. I always bang down the gears to get the back end out, but with this change to the way shifts happen, I doubt it will be possible any longer.

I'm looking forward to trying out the Tsukuba trial over the weekend. One of my all time favorite tracks.

Yeah i think for drifters this is realy realy bad news.....
And for me personally ( and i wasn't a engine blowup downshifter in the first place ) this takes a lot of fun out of a timetrial like this.
If this something i'll have to get used to..... then i'm not verry happy 😒

 

[jmopborba]

2:02:676 on Spa with the Toyota after some laps where I felt completely frustrated by missing Pouhon, I never get the hang of that one. Fair to say that silver is assured and gold is not out of reach, I feel I can do a 2:01:xxx on a perfect day. I will need to check where I can gain more on that new data registry stuff and compare with a top-10 lap.

 

[Gogga]

Yeah i think for drifters this is realy realy bad news.....
And for me personally ( and i wasn't a engine blowup downshifter in the first place ) this takes a lot of fun out of a timetrial like this.
If this something i'll have to get used to..... then i'm not verry happy 😒

Me neither, but I would not say that I have never used the downshifts to get some more rotation in these time trials.

Oh well, I guess we will all just have to adapt to the change.

 

[SpacedInvader]

I’m looking forward to the next two time trials, although reading about the changes to engine breaking are making me a little apprehensive. I tried to incorporate more engine breaking into my driving as it is clearly faster in some cases then waiting for the revs to come down… did PD make a noticeable change? Or maybe I’m overthinking it.

Engine braking. Braking.

Engine breaking (or gearbox shattering) is what people who downshift too quickly would be doing if these were real cars, hence the update.

 

[half_sourly]

I have posted the results for TT177 over here and have updated the two opening posts.

 

[NicoGmbh]

Well hi guys! After about 9 months away from the game, I finally managed to invent a dedicated space in my room to bring back the rig from its deep sleep Put it all together yesterday, did some weekly challenges to tune everything and dial in the seating position, bass shaker settings etc. And last night I jumped in the latest TT just to give it a go

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I told myself that this time I'm just going to enjoy the game, not compete like crazy, but I don't really think it will be possible, I just reminded myself what a thrill it is to chase the perfect lap Of course, this was very very far from perfect, just couple of bankers, so we'll see in the coming days how it's going to go Good to be back!

Hi @Vule !

Glad to know that you find some time to return to GT7.

Moreover, I hope your project is progressing well.

After a long passage on Horza Horizon 5 (big mistake when we have to return to Gran Turismo), I will try to get back to the TT Challenge but this time in VR.

My god, you are still as fast... and I see that some have progressed a lot.

I also notice new challengers, feel free to add me to your lists.

 

[zaxs]

Here are rewards from last two TTs:

I was close to gold here, but couldn't cut that 0.3s that I needed.
But I'm ok with mill too.

This morning better story:

Competition was merciless and lap had to be fast.


Move to new TT, lovely Spa and I cut full second of my previous 4.99% silver:



Direct capture.

There is place for improvement, TT only started...

 

[Gomario JSP]

Engine braking. Braking.

Engine breaking (or gearbox shattering) is what people who downshift too quickly would be doing if these were real cars, hence the update.

We all get that, and ofcourse gearbox shattering downshifting shouldn't be possible in game, I totally agree, but have you run the GTR at Tsukuba yet? You can't tell me that's real life behaviour 😢

 

[crome]

We all get that, and ofcourse gearbox shattering downshifting shouldn't be possible in game, I totally agree, but have you run the GTR at Tsukuba yet? You can't tell me that's real life behaviour 😢

Haven't tried it yet, but what would you have done differently? Is it simply that the threshold RPM for allowing downshifts is too low? Or perhaps that the downshift itself should be registered and just be delayed until the RPM drops sufficiently?

 

[Gomario JSP]

Haven't tried it yet, but what would you have done differently? Is it simply that the threshold RPM for allowing downshifts is too low? Or perhaps that the downshift itself should be registered and just be delayed until the RPM drops sufficiently?

I feel it is A inconsistent ( on the GTR, maby other cars are different? ) and B I have the feeling that it just doesn't use the whole range when shifting down.
I agree totally that the shattering shenanigans needed to go, but you should get a GTR just below the max rev when downshifting, the guys from best motoring invented gearbox yeeeting if you ask me 🤣🤣

But maby ill have to get used to it, and yelling to soon, I wasn't a yeeeeter, but this totally changing my driving style needed.

Ill do some research next time on the TT at Tsukuba by looking what revs it will accept before I say things that arent true...

Maby it's a feeling and my feeling is off 🤣🤣

Delaying the shift would be more frustrating I guess, then all controle is gone 🤔

 

[SpacedInvader]

We all get that, and ofcourse gearbox shattering downshifting shouldn't be possible in game, I totally agree, but have you run the GTR at Tsukuba yet? You can't tell me that's real life behaviour 😢

I was just pointing out the spelling error, nowt else.