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GT7 & PSVR2
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What cars don't have interior view?
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Mercedes AMG VGT
Peugeot VGT
Subaru Viziv VGT
Aston Martin DP-100 VGT
Mitsubishi VGT
Lexus VGT
Infiniti VGT
Toyota SF-R Race Car
BMW VGT
Maybe some others, but this seems to be it from from what I've read.
Yes, something like that check this thread
www.gtplanet.net
GT7 and SimHub Tactile discussion
This should serve as a place for everyone to discuss all things related to GT7 and SimHub Tactile effects. 'ShakeIt Bass Shaker' settings/profiles 'ShakeIt Motor' settings/profiles
www.gtplanet.net
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Thanks, will look into thisYes, something like that check this thread
GT7 and SimHub Tactile discussion
This should serve as a place for everyone to discuss all things related to GT7 and SimHub Tactile effects. 'ShakeIt Bass Shaker' settings/profiles 'ShakeIt Motor' settings/profiles
I think the Interior views, no hud, will be the ultimate way to experience GT7 with PSVR2.
To answer an earlier concerns that I read while going through the many pages of this thread:
Another selling point for this game in VR, is the expectation that the plug and play experience will be carefully crafted by PD.
It will worth replaying the whole solo campaign in this mode.
Very exiting time for GT fans.
To answer an earlier concerns that I read while going through the many pages of this thread:
- Interior views should greatly help reducing/avoiding motion sickness
- The headset is hdr so I am hopeful that that the darker shades of the dashboard will not suffer from black crushes like when playing PS5 games on SDR tv.
- It is fair to say more realism won't translate into faster time. (Personnaly, to shave few milleseconds of lap time, I always go bumper cam).
Another selling point for this game in VR, is the expectation that the plug and play experience will be carefully crafted by PD.
It will worth replaying the whole solo campaign in this mode.
Very exiting time for GT fans.
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The inability to customize the HUD has been a point on my PD **** list for a very long time. One could argue that one would no longer need the radar since VR would allow you to look around. But things like weather races where you need to see if/when the rain is coming and how hard. It would be cool if you could place that, and only that, somewhere on the screen. Or the fuel map, TC, or whatever else one would need to use.
Anyway, I digress.
Anyway, I digress.
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Funny thing, in gt6 the hid was fully customisable
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That's exactly it; a HUD that only appears when you hit the MFD buttons (left or right on dpad makes sense).
Besides that, the other HUD elements should have an option to switch off, there's so much clutter. I don't want to see a tachometer, speed gauge, telemetry etc most of the time, GT's HUD uses up so much screen real-estate.
As I said in a prior post, let's see if the VR update has induced a HUD overhaul/customisation update, I certainly hope this is the case.
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What would be good is if you could have an option to use the wheel attached to the PS5 within the game with a rendered LDC screen representing the hud. Would be fine for the racing cars
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I'm really excited that the game will be fully playable in VR !
But I think we shouldn't expect too much either and lower our expectations because
1) Kaz said recently that he doesn't believe in elitist hardware (PSVR2 is more expensive than entry level DD...)
2) The VR in GT Sport was not really well implemented :
I'm not really confident that they will put a lot of effort into this PSVR2 support. The fact that we didn't see a proper GT7 trailer to sell the PSVR2 is a bad sign IMO.
I hope I'm wrong
But I think we shouldn't expect too much either and lower our expectations because
1) Kaz said recently that he doesn't believe in elitist hardware (PSVR2 is more expensive than entry level DD...)
2) The VR in GT Sport was not really well implemented :
I can easily understand why they did not make PS4 Pro only features (Sony is probably against it) but all the other features were achievable but only one had been added... Not a single option to adjust the camera...
I'm not really confident that they will put a lot of effort into this PSVR2 support. The fact that we didn't see a proper GT7 trailer to sell the PSVR2 is a bad sign IMO.
I hope I'm wrong
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VR was shoehorned into Sport rather late and they had to create a mode around it. Also, the PSVR1 was a very rudimentary headset even when it launched. GT7 has the advantage of having not only experience but the PSVR2 was announced to devs along with the PS5 (not to mention polyphony digital has insider assistance from Sony) and the PSVR2 is high-end even compared to $1000 headsets in the PC space. On top of that, this will not be a simple streamlined VR mode, it's the full game adapted to VR and we have seen many other racing games adapt to VR just fine post-launch.I'm really excited that the game will be fully playable in VR !
But I think we shouldn't expect too much either and lower our expectations because
1) Kaz said recently that he doesn't believe in elitist hardware (PSVR2 is more expensive than entry level DD...)
2) The VR in GT Sport was not really well implemented :
I can easily understand why they did not make PS4 Pro only features (Sony is probably against it) but all the other features were achievable but only one had been added... Not a single option to adjust the camera...
I'm not really confident that they will put a lot of effort into this PSVR2 support. The fact that we didn't see a proper GT7 trailer to sell the PSVR2 is a bad sign IMO.
I hope I'm wrong
I do agree the lack of a proper trailer is concerning.
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Yes gt7 is designed for PSVR2. Ever wondered wij the main home worldmap is in 3D….Hagerty is a 3D garage so is Brand Central. I suspect a System selling VR experience will be delivered next month. We might even get a visual upgrade in VR due to the Fofeated Rendering and ps5 only device target. Hopefully Sony call it an “Upgrade” insteas of an “Update” for a good reason 👍
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Why wouldn’t you be able to split the headphone out port?
Just connect a splitter on the headset and run 1 to headphones and 1 to the buttkickers. That’s how I did it with PSVR 1 on GT Sport.
EDIT: Just went down the rabbit hole of Simhub mentioned a few posts back. Yep that's the way to go. The issue with using sound as we have been, is that being in party chat sets off the bass shakers which is annoying, plus the wind in the game etc. Simhub will let us use just the telemetry so we can run audio with no effect to it. Plus it will let us customize the bass shakers for different things. I plan to run a small Dayton puck on my brake pedal using this 3D print mod for the Sprint pedals. This will be for wheel lockup.
Daytona audio TT25 puck adapters for Heuskinveld Sprint pedals by palarchi
Adapters for the TT25 pucks on Sprint pedals. The design is a very low level DIY modification of "Heusinkveld Sprint Rumble Mod Brake and Throttle" from Shaykz on Thingiverse and the "Bass Shaker for Thrustmaster T300 RS Pedals" from Stanley.
www.thingiverse.com
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PlayStation could make a lot of money with a butt kicker I reckon. Super cheap to make and you could even run it off Bluetooth
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I'd imagine all well and good aside from firmware upgrades and game updates etc. That stuff will likely need a screen...
I'm not entirely convinced the menus will be in VR either, I can well imagine it being 2D until you're either in the car or in a specific 'showroom' / spectate mode.
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Yeah I'm going down the simhub rabbit hole, had no idea we had so many tactile options available to us. going to rig a 2nd motor and a fan nextWhy wouldn’t you be able to split the headphone out port?
Just connect a splitter on the headset and run 1 to headphones and 1 to the buttkickers. That’s how I did it with PSVR 1 on GT Sport.
EDIT: Just went down the rabbit hole of Simhub mentioned a few posts back. Yep that's the way to go. The issue with using sound as we have been, is that being in party chat sets off the bass shakers which is annoying, plus the wind in the game etc. Simhub will let us use just the telemetry so we can run audio with no effect to it. Plus it will let us customize the bass shakers for different things. I plan to run a small Dayton puck on my brake pedal using this 3D print mod for the Sprint pedals. This will be for wheel lockup.
Daytona audio TT25 puck adapters for Heuskinveld Sprint pedals by palarchi
Adapters for the TT25 pucks on Sprint pedals. The design is a very low level DIY modification of "Heusinkveld Sprint Rumble Mod Brake and Throttle" from Shaykz on Thingiverse and the "Bass Shaker for Thrustmaster T300 RS Pedals" from Stanley.
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The pessimist in me is worried it'll be as bad as the FFB for my wheel lol.
I agree and hadn't considered the possibility. I'd love to watch replays from iconic viewpoints in the stands.
Yep, I would have never touched the solo campaign again if not for this. I've actually stopped playing the game entirely because I'm just anxious to play in VR.
I understand your pessimism but I feel that it isn't up to Kaz/PD. I'm sure that Sony is all-but telling them that this is happening and it needs to be done right. PS VR2 is a HUGE investment for Sony and they're not going to let Kaz's quirky BS get in the way.I'm not really confident that they will put a lot of effort into this PSVR2 support. The fact that we didn't see a proper GT7 trailer to sell the PSVR2 is a bad sign IMO.
I hope I'm wrong
We've seen MS lay off/halt dev in the VR/AR space and I believe Apple is delaying one of their headsets. GT7 is definitely a system(VR) seller, they have to get it right.
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Absolutely -- hopefully it can induce VR guys to enter the world of sim racing, I think a LOT of PSVR 2 owners are going to buy GT7 for the visual showcase alone, even if they're not racing fans. I can only assume some massive marketing drive is about to begin, hopefully this gets consumers clamouring because they should!
VR is a tough one to crack because it is -- innately -- a prohibitively expensive product, to the point that I'm not sure how mass adoption would even work. Very few consumers will double down on their console expense for any reason, unless they have a very high disposable income or a hard-on for VR. You could proceed with a much cheaper product, but then you're back to the "VR as a gimmick" space, which is doing the technology a massive disservice.
Then you have weirdos like me who will spend what, 4x/5x times their console expense to just play two games in a sim rig....and now one in VR.
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Good points you raise here.
Dedicated gaming VR will be a costly niche for many years to come. Quest 2 is a cheap(ish) entry to VR but since it is basically a mobile device, you really need a $2,000 PC to really take advantage of it for dedicated gaming. I don't see standalone HMDs like that to be viable for serious gaming for at least another ten years. However, PCVR and console VR is now able to provide good VR gaming at mid-range prices.
The PCVR scene is pretty much dead right now, with no AAA games planned for 2023 and the market completely bereft of HMD offerings for less than $1,000 (omitting the Quest 2, of course). Of course all the established racing sims have VR on PC but we are talking about games that are many years old already (even ACC is almost five years old).
On the hardware front, mid-range, affordable, and good performing headsets like the Rift S and Samsung Odyssey+ are long gone with nothing on the horizon to replace them. And Microsoft throwing in the towel on VR makes the PS5+PSVR2 that much more important, and even an inflection point, in VR gaming.
The PS5+PSVR2 combo has the specs, the functionality and the pricing to reinvigorate VR gaming and if it turns out as well as it seems it will based on specs and games showed so far, Sony will become the instant VR leader.
GT7 in VR is a huge milestone for console racing and I'm surprised this isn't being talked about more. It's a killer app, a system seller and will surely attract many new VR players. If more racing games come out with PSVR2 (like WRC23) it will likely begin to attract some PC players as well.
This has all the ingredients to be a huge hit. If the excellent impressions from CES translate to reality on 22 Feb then we are in for a new dawn in VR gaming.
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Very interesting topic!
One thing that prevents VR to become as big as standard gaming is that the average player just sees it as a pricey accessory. But it's more comparable to a whole new gaming hardware in my opinion. It gives access to hundreds of new games or a totally different perspective on games already existing. The PSVR2 will have more than 30 titles at launch, and in 40 years I can't remember of any console launching with that many titles! PSVR was the beginning of mass produced VR. It wasn't as convincing as it is today, and we had to wait before seeing games fully exploiting it.
I've seen some young people buying the PSVR at launch and reselling it within a week because of the poor resolution or just the lack of interesting games lasting more than 2 hours. Not speaking of the majority of players who didn't even have move controllers and had half-baked experiences, or the fact that connecting and configuring the PSVR was such a tedious process that many people tried it once, put it away, and never used it again...
But with PSVR2 it's totally different. You have a high end device that benefits from 6 years of other VR headsets experience and improvements, a huge load of full-fledged games, some of them which you could play for hundreds or even thousands of hours like GT7, and you can connect it to your PS5 with a single cable and the configuration is apparently really user-friendly.
I think that if Sony doesn't make much efforts on marketing and showcasing the PSVR2, it's because they are confident with their product.
In one month the PSVR2 will be all over the internet, with thousands and thousands of Youtubers and streamers broadcasting it on all the main platforms, and the real hype will begin along with this free advertising.
From what we've seen so far, some PSVR2 games can easily compare to the best PCVR titles running on a few thousand dollars configs.
And as good as the sim racing games are on PC, they're still a niche compared to Gran Turismo in terms of notoriety and sales. Not any other racing game, even Forza, is that big of a topic. You can easily compare it on gtplanet, youtube, or any other platform.
This kind of announement speaks to a way larger audience than a VR upgrade for Assetto Corsa or iRacing, that's not even debatable...
Plus, I assume that GT7 will be way more impressive in terms of graphics, being a great showcase for the PSVR2 and possibly creating a hype even outside of the racing gamers community.
Of course it will take some time for the PSVR2 to ship millions of units. Many players still struggle to get a PS5, and the headset seems too much expensive for most PS5 owners. But PS5 is already a 30.000.000 players market and it keeps on expanding. When those PS5 players will see some next gen VR games covered on their favorite Youtube channels, or when they will try it themselves, I guess that many people will start to save some money... and I assume that there will be very few disappointed adopters compared to what it was with the first PSVR.
Anyway, I can't wait to see how VR industry will benefit from the PSVR2 release. It sure will be some exciting years to be a VR player!
EDIT: @Pascalmk:
You know, you can interact with people other than with emojis and try to communicate instead of feeling butthurt everytime that someone mentions PC.
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