GTP Cool Wall: 1967-1969 Kaiser-Jeep M715

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1967-1969 Kaiser-Jeep M715

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White & Nerdy
Probably someone who believes in things like "the Constitution" and "limited government".
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No, it's the type of person that can't manage to have a civil conversation about anything as they always turn it into an anti-government rant.

Anyways, I went with seriously uncool as they are pretty much relegated to "trailer queen" status by most owners which means they are rarely driven(of course that may also be due to the fact it can't possibly be easy or fun to drive on modern roads).
 
Communist Military Vehicles are cooler than western military vehicles for two reasons:
  1. The air of mystery which they carry to this day
  2. NATO reporting names
 
Roger the Horse
  1. NATO reporting names
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This is true.

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Huehuehue.
 
Joey D
So we're d-bags now because we think differently than you? Thank god you're no longer a mod.
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:lol:
No, it's the Hippocracy that some members show, being someone offended doesn't mean anything about guilt. :unimpressed: I see no reason for you to be SO upset or say such things.

Although, I consider it a personal insult you would suggest that conflicting opinions would change my interpretation of the AUP/TOS (so again, thank god I'm not a mod cause I might bann you for being upset right?! :lol: :rolleyes: ).

Frankly, that's just low.
 
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homeforsummer
On a whim? Cool. But only if you drive it like you would anything else. Doing the whole pretend-military dressing up to drive it would be seriously uncool - but doing your shopping in it or turning up to your grandparents' house in it would be pretty funny.
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This, but sadly I think it's more likely to be driven by a re-enactivist than just 'cos (unless you happen to live near Jay Leno) - which averages out at a very, very low uncool.
 
Kent
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No, it's the Hippocracy that some members show, being someone offended doesn't mean anything about guilt. :unimpressed: I see no reason for you to be SO upset or say such things.

Although, I consider it a personal insult you would suggest that conflicting opinions would change my interpretation of the AUP/TOS (so again, thank god I'm not a mod cause I might bann you for being upset right?! :lol: :rolleyes: ).

Frankly, that's just low.
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Wait a minute? You called us d-bags for thinking that the truck is uncool because it represented someone who's anti-government to the point of being a militiaman (think Terry Nichols or Timothy McVeigh (Oklahoma City bombing for those not from the US)). You also seem to think we're d-bags because we happened to think a Soviet military vehicle was cool for whatever reason.

This is the cool wall, not the political ideology wall where we must hate the imminent Red Menace.
 
Almost anything military is cool. But this one is just barely.
 
Military vehicles cool? :lol:

Only cool if they are being used for what they were designed to do... otherwise you'll just look like a knob.
 
Joey D
Wait a minute? You called us d-bags for thinking that the truck is uncool because it represented someone who's anti-government to the point of being a militiaman (think Terry Nichols or Timothy McVeigh (Oklahoma City bombing for those not from the US)). You also seem to think we're d-bags because we happened to think a Soviet military vehicle was cool for whatever reason.

This is the cool wall, not the political ideology wall where we must hate the imminent Red Menace.
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You seemed to have missed that it was about how inconsistent the opinions are, nothing about politics.
Riding in an American military truck makes you a nutjob terrorist wannabe but riding in a soviet military truck is cool and carries none of the same implications? :indiff:

I also want to point out I did't say people who voted this uncool are d-bags. I said people who voted it uncool for imagined "murica" stereotypes because of its military origins but didn't do the same for soviet vehicles were engaging in d-baggery.
Maybe it's splitting hairs but I feel there's a difference.

It's about consistency and prejudice, not politics or what you think is cool.
 
Kent
You seemed to have missed that it was about how inconsistent the opinions are, nothing about politics.
Riding in an American military truck makes you a nutjob terrorist wannabe but riding in a soviet military truck is cool and carries none of the same implications? :indiff:

I also want to point out I did't say people who voted this uncool are d-bags. I said people who voted it uncool for imagined "murica" stereotypes because of its military origins but didn't do the same for soviet vehicles were engaging in d-baggery.
Maybe it's splitting hairs but I feel there's a difference.

It's about consistency and prejudice, not politics or what you think is cool.
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Driving a military truck doesn't make you a nut job, it's just the impression the vehicle gives off to some of us, and honestly it's probably a fairly valid statement. For whatever reason you seem to think this makes the person who thinks that way a d-bag, which anyone who's viewed this thread can see you were referring to Zeinth and myself and maybe a few others.

And your comments about how people seem to think a Soviet truck is cool and not an American one gives off the impression you are some how politically offended by this because of the red Commie bastards.
 
Joey D
Driving a military truck doesn't make you a nut job, it's just the impression the vehicle gives off to some of us, and honestly it's probably a fairly valid statement. For whatever reason you seem to think this makes the person who thinks that way a d-bag, which anyone who's viewed this thread can see you were referring to Zeinth and myself and maybe a few others.

And your comments about how people seem to think a Soviet truck is cool and not an American one gives off the impression you are some how politically offended by this because of the red Commie bastards.
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You're using a lot of words I haven't used and making inferences I never made.
I didn't say people are d-bags for not like an american truck or that they were d-bags for like a soviet truck. I said it was d-baggery to be inconsistent and to make the assumption that when you drive an american m. truck you are a domestic terrorist and when you drive a soviet m. truck that isn't the case.

I keep telling you and you keep ignoring it... This isn't about politics or what you do or do not like, it's about being consistent. Thinking someone is a crazy person for driving an American military truck and not thinking the same for driving a Soviet military truck is inconsistent.
 
Reminds me of an International Scout, but...'more'.

As hfs said, cool, until you drive it.
 
Kent
You're using a lot of words I haven't used and making inferences I never made.
I didn't say people are d-bags for not like an american truck or that they were d-bags for like a soviet truck. I said it was d-baggery to be inconsistent and to make the assumption that when you drive an american m. truck you are a domestic terrorist and when you drive a soviet m. truck that isn't the case.

I keep telling you and you keep ignoring it... This isn't about politics or what you do or do not like, it's about being consistent. Thinking someone is a crazy person for driving an American military truck and not thinking the same for driving a Soviet military truck is inconsistent.
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The cool is not about consistency, nor is inconsistency a d-bag quality. A d-bag quality is calling others d-bag for no reason other than you don't like their opinion.

The cool wall is something fun where you make observations based off however you see the vehicle. Some people see Soviet stuff as cool because it's different, unique, or whatever. Honestly I like Soviet stuff because I think Soviet history is interesting and the pictures in conjures in my head are cool. American military stuff sold to civilian just reminds me of people in the backwoods of Michigan who build bombs to blow up federal buildings. I'm not sure how you don't understand that or why you choose to keep ignoring that not everyone needs to follow a set cool wall formula.

And the only reason, as I've said, I assumed you're initial post was politically motivated was because that's all you focused on.
 
It's an open poll, not a methodical system. This just seems like a patriotic knee-jerk in response to the "unfathomable" notion that someone could find something associated with the u.s. military uncool while giving something associated with another military a free pass on that fact. Why does that matter?

For the record, I voted the UAZ 469 sub zero because it's diminuitive, and diminuitive offroad machines are cool. I voted this Meh because it's just a truck, and with the military treatment it's not as cool as the normal SJ-platform Jeep on which it's based. I don't think anything should get cool points based upon the fact that it's military-based; that mindset is exemplified by the militia nutjob persona being mocked here. But I reserve the right to overlook military ties if a vehicle is cool for other reasons.
 
Joey D
Wait a minute? You called us d-bags for thinking that the truck is uncool because it represented someone who's anti-government to the point of being a militiaman (think Terry Nichols or Timothy McVeigh (Oklahoma City bombing for those not from the US)). You also seem to think we're d-bags because we happened to think a Soviet military vehicle was cool for whatever reason.

This is the cool wall, not the political ideology wall where we must hate the imminent Red Menace.
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Except McVeigh was not a right-winger.
 
White & Nerdy
Except McVeigh was not a right-winger.
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Yes he was, he was a registered Republican and voted for the anti-government Libertarian candidate Harry Browne.

But my point was that this vehicle reminds me of the kind of truck some whacked out nut job like Timothy McVeigh would drive.
 
He was a whackjob and was sort of right wing, but he wasn't a Right Wing Whackjob. McVeigh, from my hasty research, seems more like an obnoxious big-L Libertarian: he seemed to be genuinely in favor of smaller government and greater liberty, but he also experimented with drugs (methamphetamine and cannabis) and identified as an agnostic - his exact words were "Sicence is my religion." McVeigh had tried to join the Michigan militia, which is a right-wing group if there ever was one, and they threw him out after he'd attended a couple of meetings.

That, by the way, is why I objected to what you said in the first place. McVeigh was far from a typical right-winger, and I resent the implication that he represents the political right or the Michigan militia.
 
It concerns me that you resent me speaking ill of a domestic terrorist and a domestic terrorist organization (the Michigan Militia).

You continue to completely gloss over the fact I was merely using McVeigh, the Michigan Militia, and the like as examples of who I think would drive this truck. To me people who are obsessed with guns, anti-government, and think blowing up fellow citizens to make whatever point they wanted too is seriously uncool, hence my vote for this truck.
 
Kent
D-bags never cease to amaze me.
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Me either.

Kent
Riding in an American military truck makes you a nutjob terrorist wannabe but riding in a soviet military truck is cool and carries none of the same implications? :indiff:
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I don't think nutjob terrorist wannabes would be driving around in a 40 year old Soviet light duty pickup truck, no. The metaphor breaks down a bit when reversed.

Kent
I also want to point out I did't say people who voted this uncool are d-bags. I said people who voted it uncool for imagined "murica" stereotypes because of its military origins but didn't do the same for soviet vehicles were engaging in d-baggery.
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Consistency of opinions being a long held tradition determining coolness from the thing adopted from the event in that show where disputes regarding hypocrisy were settled by the tall guy putting a picture of a car too high for the short guy to reach.












Anyway, this is cool because it's basically just a beefed up Jeep Gladiator with green paint. It's Kevin Bacon Approved.
 
Joey D
It concerns me that you resent me speaking ill of a domestic terrorist and a domestic terrorist organization (the Michigan Militia).
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As much as I hate to stand in when W&N is concerned...
You have completely characterized what was said. He never said he resented you speaking ill of a domestic terrorist, he said he resented you associating that man with other groups who shouldn't be associated with said terrorist.
You really seem to be jumping to conclusions with this one, everything is being turned in a situation where people are terrorist, supporters, and right-wing crazies.

In reality, this started as a simple issue of disliking the inconsistency in cool voting. Was never about politics, terrorist, or whatever other imagined associations you make with this vehicle.
 
@Kent has it right here. I also hesitate to call the Michigan Militia a domestic terrorist organization. They're the knid of "right-wing nuts" you seem to think would be terrorists, but they mainly do helpful things like disaster response, search & rescue work, and deterring actual evildoers from doing evil. As I said, they kicked McVeigh out after only a coulple meetings, despite some common causes and a common motivation (the Waco attack).
 
Kent
In reality, this started as a simple issue of disliking the inconsistency in cool voting
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I'm pretty sure it started because the dislike resonated in the form of you calling people douchebags and giving misleading reasoning why.



Kent
Was never about politics, terrorist, or whatever other imagined associations you make with this vehicle.
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Kent
U.S. made military vehicle comes up and it's uncool cause you look like a "we the people" type or w/e.
Communist made military vehicle comes up and zomg that's so cool.
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Then type clearer next time.
 

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