GTP Cool Wall: 2002-2006 Subaru Baja

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2002-2006 Subaru Baja

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Not sure how a Dualcab pickup/ute is less practical then a Wagon.

Eitherway I would put uncool.
 
Seriously uncool.

The normal Legacy would be at least cool for me, but this... no. I have to admit that it would make sense as a vehicle for transporting big loads of stuff like wood or planks, etc., but there are better vehicles for this purpose.
 
This doesn't look like a Baja truck at all. :lol:
Seriously Uncool, but I suggested it so that raises it to an uncool. :p

 
Cool because it's unusual/different, a bit silly, and Subaru dared to build it. IIRC you couldn't get this yellow paint color on standard Legacys.

And with the 5MT it has more truck-like cred than other softroaders, in spite of its sedan roots.
 
I've never liked these things and I never will.

Come on, guys.

If you need a mnemonic, just think of Captain Kirk in Star Trek VI; "I've never trusted Klingons... and I never will."
 
mustafur
Not sure how a Dualcab pickup/ute is less practical then a Wagon.
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For more money than an Outback wagon that seats five, has fold down rear seats and an enclosed cargo area with a flat load floor; you could instead have an Outback truck that only seats four, has fold down rear seats with only a sedan trunk passthrough to access the now exposed cargo area that is slightly larger in full cargo mode than the wagon's already was when the seats were down.

Except the wagon also had a full length roof rack where you could put the... I'm guessing flagpole collection that you need to take everywhere with you that won't fit in your Outback but will fit "in" a Baja.
 
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Tornado
For more money than an Outback wagon that seats five, has fold down rear seats and an enclosed cargo area with a flat load floor; you could instead have an Outback truck that only seats four, has fold down rear seats for the sedan-sized trunk passthrough to access the now exposed cargo area that is slightly larger than the wagon's already was when the seats were down.
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But it now has the ability to carry things without smelling out the car and has a higher height to carry said things, you couldn't carry Dirt, firewood, tools, motor bikes etc in a wagon without having long term issues.

When it comes to pickups vs Wagon the Wagon will almost certainly lose, especially when its a Dual Cab.
 
Tornado
Amusingly, you can't carry very much of any of those things in a Baja either.
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Well motorbike would be optimistic but the rest still stands.

Its a pretty pointless car due to it's price and what you can get for it instead at the time, but it's still quite practical just looking at it, plus I would assume not many pickups in N/A at the time would be getting near it's fuel economy.
 
So hilariously goofy looking that I can't give it anything less than a cool. My neighbor owns one in a maroon color and he quite likes it, bought it new and has daily driven it ever since.
 
mustafur
Well motorbike would be optimistic but the rest still stands.
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It really doesn't. How much it doesn't is the same reason the similar Explorer Sport Trac flamed out on the market at the same time while the Avalanche had a long and profitable life. "I can haul dirt and garbage" isn't the only measure of "practicality". "I can seat an entire extra person" and "I can buy groceries on days where it isn't sunny" and "I can carry cargo without worrying if it's over a foot tall or two feet wide" also play a role; and obviously quite a more important one since they still make Outbacks but couldn't even meet yearly sales projections for the Baja over the entirety of its life combined.


mustafur
plus I would assume not many pickups in N/A at the time would be getting near it's fuel economy.
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http://fueleconomy.gov/feg/Find.do?action=sbs&id=21144&id=21463&id=21146&id=21462
 
In one of the pictures I could clearly see it with a hardtop over the bed, that would solve the weather issue.
 
Tornado
:lol:
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Fact is it isn't any less practical then a Wagon depending on what you use it for and in many cases more so, getting a canopy basically makes it the same thing only a seperate cargo area so it doesn't effect the inside of the car on what you hold in the back.

Now I'm not saying I like this car or what not(wouldn't touch it with a 10 foot pole personally)but its hard to deny the abilities of a pickup no matter what form it is.
 
mustafur
Fact is it isn't any less practical then a Wagon depending on what you use it for
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What if I want to carry something that is more than 12 inches tall? What if I want to get groceries without having dump a few hundred dollars into an aftermarket tonneau cover or a couple thousand into a hard cover or not use the bed in bad weather? What if I want to carry a fifth person?
mustafur
and in many cases more so
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"Many" being your definition of "one", which is "carry dirt", since every other hypothetical you've posed the wagon couldn't do would be defeated by a $3 tarp I could get at work.

mustafur
but its hard to deny the abilities of a pickup no matter what form it is.
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It's pretty easy to deny the capabilities of a truck with a bed so poorly thought out that you can't carry a bicycle without lowering the tailgate and utilizing the pass-through and flip gate (the latter of which cost extra); and a gimmicky interior pass-through to offset the above so half assed that it would be defeated by two shoeboxes stacked on top of each other.

It also helps that I've seen them in person and test drove one last year and considered buying one because I have always loved them for how dumb they are before deciding the fuel mileage was far too poor for the performance it offered (and my boss' Forester lunched an engine identical to the one in the Baja while I was on the fence about it); whereas you're basing all of your "assumptions" on the pictures in the OP and vague concepts about fuel efficiency that 2 minutes on Google would have shown to be incorrect.
 
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Well I was pretty general with what I was saying, yeah I have never seen one in person and yeah information is on google, but unlike you im not really interested in going that indepth into proving im right. This is a cool wall thread on a car I have next to no interest in(as stated) and the only assumption I made was really on fuel economy which either way was probably right, going as the links you provided didn't have a car that actually beat it's fuel economy(Not that it matters anyway).

Congrats you win the argumentz, maybe that will compensate all that time you wasted trying to do so.
 
mustafur
which are?

A pickup is useful/practical is basically all I have said.

Yeah it's not the biggest but it can definetly do things some/most can do.
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Read Tornado's post on the matter.

And as I implied, if you do not care why did you argue in the first place?
 
Tornado
What if I want to carry something that is more than 12 inches tall? What if I want to get groceries without having dump a few hundred dollars into an aftermarket tonneau cover or a couple thousand into a hard cover or not use the bed in bad weather? What if I want to carry a fifth person?
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In the 6 or 7 years I've had my Forester, I can't recall a time where it's practicality would have been improved by it being a pickup. I can remember dozens of times where it's estate/wagoness has been utilised. Carrying mountain bikes without having to dismantle them. Transporting furniture taller than a foot in height (beds, sofas, chairs, chests of draws etc). Sleeping in. Transporting four adults and two dogs. None of which would have been possible in the Baja.
 

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