When niky joined in, I was like "for the love of god!"
Precisely the reason it took me so long to respond... didn't really want to drag it out. Hey, I stayed completely out of the Cutlass thread, didn't I?
But you didn't pos the crash test for the... wait, did you think this was a Aveo vs. yugo debate?
I didn't. I didn't start the Aveo versus Yugo debate. I'm merely stating an observation.
You asked why we should buy a Corvette when an Aveo will do everything we need to do. Then when told a Yugo will do anything you want an Aveo to do, you opined that an Aveo was better in every way than a Yugo. Which it isn't, not really. But yes, it is better in many ways... and hey... a Corvette is better than an Aveo in many ways, too... so?
And I care about any of this why? I'll take an Aveo over a Yugo, thanks. You want a Yugo? Go buy one. Next.
I don't want a Yugo. I don't even want an Aveo. Why should I buy a piece of junk that's not even worth what it costs secondhand when I can afford to get something that I
like more for similar money? You're asking why get a faster car if you're not going to use it to speed. Why not get an Aveo? Simple. Because the Aveo is a turd. It's not because it's slow, but because it's a turd.
A lot of people... a
whole lot of people, buy slow cars. You stated that people buy quick cars because they want to get from where they are to where they want to go as quickly as possible. Really? Is that why V6 Mustangs outsell V8s? Why people buy more I4 Camries and Accords than V6s? Why a whole lot of people buy Honda Fits, when you could buy a much....
much faster Honda Civic or Ford Focus for the same money? Why the previous Camaro, arguably incredibly fast for incredibly good money, died an ignonimous death while the secretary-special Mustang soldiered on?
I don't suppose you've noticed, but you're the person making indefensible generalizations, not I nor Famine. Yet you somehow seem to think that you've got the high ground and facts on your side... which you don't.
Stupid, all I can say. Apparently we're going to be ignorant about this, I can see.
So... do you actually know what he does with his car when you can't see him, or not? Because I dread to think that I don't meet your coolness qualifications because I don't use my car to its full potential on public roads.
Of course, if they're just tootling along at just 30 mph on the racetrack, that's another thing... but since most people can't drive worth beans on the track, that's excusable.
A "gee" whiz? Or a lateral "G"?
Both, actually.
But really, you see that problem in bold up there?
If you're obeying the law, then they must not be, correct?
If I'm going fifty, and they're going sixty... how can they be breaking the law? Nowhere in that paragraph did I state I was going at the limit.
Not to say I don't break the speed limit... but I often drive under it or within the 10% leeway you get from traffic enforcers.
So it's gone from defending people obeying the law, and believing most people do care about obeying traffic laws, to "you don't know what they do when you can't see them"? How quickly our arguments change, ain't?
I haven't changed
anything. Famine is merely asking why it's sickening for people to obey the law. I'm merely stating the observation that,
whatever the speed limit is, average speed on a modern highway invariably falls between 70-80 mph,
whether it's legal or not.
I'd leave you to play with Famine all week, but I'm personally puzzled as to how you can say, with authority, that a majority of people buy cars to speed. Specifically to. That they want to speed, regardless of the law.
Here's the problem. What's your definition of speed? Some indefinite, indefinable, nebulous extra-legal velocity? Because whatever speed is legal, and whatever the capabilities of the car they buy, most people end up driving at the same speed in the same conditions, and almost never use full power, except on the slowest of cars.
Do note: people who actually own Prii or have driven them don't actually complain that they're slow. Compared to other compact/midsized sedans with similar engines, the Prius is actually pretty peppy.... The 1.5 is faster than the lighter Yaris. The new 1.8 is about as quick as many modern 2.0s in the same class. It's mostly "car guys" on the internet who complain of how slow the Prius is... without actually ever having driven one.
You missed the fact that someone might actually buy a car because it could be a car that they have a massive passion for.
Funny enough, go to a Corvette forum and ask the question "why did you buy a Vette?", and amongst the obvious answers that they wanted a car to drive on the track, they wanted a fast car or they wanted a sexy and fast car (oddly, no one states that they bought it to break the speed limit... funnily enough), you'll find a whole bunch of people saying that they
love the Vette... period. And that's reason enough for them.
Oddly... I've only found one guy admitting to buying a Vette because it's cool. Which makes the Vette a cool car... most buyers don't buy them to (vainly) try to increase their coolness quotient.
