GTP Le Mans Prototype Series Season 3 Finished

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Razor70
next time try showing the replay in chase cam especially of the last chicane, im sure everyone is dieing to see what happen in a more clearer picture.
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if you want it sooo bad. you do it...i dont owe you anything

Razor70
lap after lap u say huh, where is this proof?
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proof....pffft...im all over that......Please skip to 8:10secs and watch till the end and you can see how many times you go off track!......i annoteated so the messages so they poppou when you did it i nthe final laps.
 
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Blaze_409
im not looking for reasons as to how you caught up.....like i said before thats not my point....my point is you've lost all right to complain based on eveything else you did in the race.....1 i didnt Ram you....2. if you think that i rammed you what do you have to say about lap 18/19 on the entry to tertre Rouge where you rammed me and i was way off track on the exit.....and when you hip checked me out the way on the exit of the Porsche curves on the final lap right before the ford chicanes.

Bombe watched the replay assumingly from the roof top video....he says otherwise.....sounds like you would just say anything jsut to get me penalized...nice try
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whatever u said i did on the track was not beneficial in my lap times as u can see whatever i did johny (with horrible tires) was still on my tail. and yes u did bump me in the last chicane, noone crashes for no reason after running that same corner 18 times before perfectly, bombe agrees something did go down and i as the driver felt it and the ram was very aggressive. it wasnt necessary
 
Razor70
whatever u said i did on the track was not beneficial in my lap times as u can see whatever i did johny (with horrible tires) was still on my tail.
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the draft system is in play which is why you would never get away from him regardless......Thats why i couldnt lose Kirk. the draft
 
Razor70
lol and i take it that u drove clean as a whistle blaze?
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Much better than you.......The only raggedy drving you see from me every is my mbattle with Kirk who was a lapped car and he was banging me around forcing me off track......

If you wanna know what kirk did to me that costed me please watch Part 4 from beggining......I came to a halt at indianapolis becasue he dive bombed me into the corner entry(that brought the gap from 11 secs to 5 secs.......and smoked my tires in the process.....got shoved waaayyy off at Tertre Rouge by him..(and you later on)
 
Blaze_409
Much better than you.......The only raggedy drving you see from me every is my mbattle with Kirk who was a lapped car and he was banging me around forcing me off track......

If you wanna know what kirk did to me that costed me please watch Part 4 from beggining......I came to a halt at indianapolis becasue he dive bombed me into the corner entry.......and smoked my tires in the process.....got shoved waaayyy off at Tertre Rouge by him..(and you later on)
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u didnt answer my question but ok.
 
Blaze_409
yes i did........i drove as clean as a whistle until i was assualted by Kirk! like i already said above
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thats what we do in this series, we all try our best to drive clean and follow the rules, why u think ive been racing here since season 1, of couse people make mistakes or slightly ram people off the track, thats all apart of racing especially when the competition is very stiff, which clearly it is between both of us which is why ur looking for lil errors i made to show where i may have gain time on u. cool, but now u went to the point that u thought i hit u off the track intentionally then u rammed me into the chicane which u did say earlier "eye for an eye" in the lobby after the race, so for u to intentionally do that just to win isnt good sportsmanship. idk why this is going on so long when u already admitted fault.
 
Razor70
thats what we do in this series, we all try our best to drive clean and follow the rules, why u think ive been racing here since season 1, of couse people make mistakes or slightly ram people off the track, thats all apart of racing especially when the competition is very stiff, which clearly it is between both of us which is why ur looking for lil errors i made to show where i may have gain time on u. cool, but now u went to the point that u thought i hit u off the track intentionally then u rammed me into the chicane which u did say earlier "eye for an eye" in the lobby after the race, so for u to intentionally do that just to win isnt good sportsmanship. idk why this is going on so long when u already admitted fault.
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no i didnt admit fault......For whatever "ramming" you THINK i did...even if i did "ram" you(even though i didnt)

you cant complain because theirs proof that you hit me twice....i dont care about eye for eye crap that i said earlier....but in terms of penalties.....why would i get one.....and you not get one when you actually did "ram" me once without consequence and a second time to pass me. thats what i mean by eye for eye....in the view of the officials.....We'd both get penalties...
 


you clearly hit the rear of my car on the exit of the porsche curves to push me out of the way.........(im not saying intentionally)....but if i get a penalty your getting one as well.......so you might as well drop it....


tell me what you see in this picture...right after that slight contact my rear end got squirly........
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you got me squirly on the exit of that turn which allowed you to pass me......i was supposed to be ahead of you in the first place....so regardless of what happened afterwards it was my position that you bumped me out of the way for......you floored it on the exit and happened to tap my rear but you didnt care(i dont mean this in a bad way).and yo uglanced over this fact....
 
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Blaze_409


you clearly hit the rear of my car on the exit of the porsche curves to push me out of the way.........(im not saying intentionally)....but if i get a penalty your getting one as well.......so you might as well drop it....
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listen here son, that ram u r going on about...did it cost u the race? did ur car do a 180 360 spin to the point that i need to get penalized for? did u lose outragous time? no johny ram u way harder that that during the course of the race yet u got nothing to say about it, reason why im going on about the chicane because it did affect the out come of the race. stop trying to build a case out of nothing
 
Razor70
listen here son, that ram u r going on about...did it cost u the race? did ur car do a 180 360 spin to the point that i need to get penalized for? did u lose outragous time? no johny ram u way harder that that during the course of the race yet u got nothing to say about it, reason why im going on about the chicane because it did affect the out come of the race. stop trying to build a case out of nothing
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????what are you talking about "son". im not talking about th tertre rouge incident..........i mtalking about the exit of the prosche curves........where you got me squirly.......

tell me what you see in this picture...right after that slight contact my rear end got squirly........
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you got me squirly on the exit of that turn which allowed you to pass me......i was supposed to be ahead of you in the first place....so regardless of what happened afterwards it was my position that you bumped me out of the way for......you floored it on the exit and happened to tap my rear but you didnt care(i dont mean this in a bad way).and yo uglanced over this fact....



and watch the video AGAIN......right when you tap me theres a popu that says "bumped oiut the way" you cant kmiss it... Skip the video to exactly 12 secs and keeeep replaying that part.....watch how i get squirly after the tap from you....
 
u may as-well stop showing that video, its not clear enough to know what happen, a chase cam would of been alot better
 
i got u squirly ok oops didnt mean for that to happen..its apart of racing.....but u wanted vengeance in the chicane which u got, feel good about yourself now?
 
Razor70
u may as-well stop showing that video, its not clear enough to know what happen, a chase cam would of been alot better
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you know what .. ill help you out on this...ill let the replay run while i eat dinner.......and hopefully come back in time to see the incident and i promise to do chase cam.
 
Razor70
i got u squirly ok oops didnt mean for that to happen..its apart of racing.....but u wanted vengeance in the chicane which u got, feel good about yourself now?
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I didnt want vengeance either...If you wanna know what vengeance is ...please ask Jake girard what he did to me at suzuka....that is vengeance. lol. not fun for me
 
Blaze_409
you know what .. ill help you out on this...ill let the replay run while i eat dinner.......and hopefully come back in time to see the incident and i promise to do chase cam.
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awesome, make sure the chase cam is on your car with ur throttle display 👍
 
Apologies Blaze_409 if I made contact it was not intentional.

6:31
I seemed to get a much better exit of the chicane and run down the Mulsanne Straight to Mulsanne. I stayed to left of track with little car movement so you had inside line for Mulsanne corner. On braking into corner I stayed on outside and and behind on run down towards Indianapolis although the draft brought be along side you.


7:13
I seem to have a much better drive through corner and was ahead with inside line so was thinking about trying to unlap myself. I thought you knew I was there and kept as close to the inside as possible to try and avoid contact at time I didn't think there was any contact I just assumed that that back had stepped out or placed a wheel on gravel. However looking at video it looks indeed like you turned in not realising I was there and front wheels touched.



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8;49
Totally my fault I always braked about 10m or so later for that corner just wasn't expecting you to brake so early sorry.

9:19
Got a draft down the straight but stayed on outside of corner to avoid making any contact with you or so that if I did outbrake myself or mess up the corner the would just go into gravel trap and you stayed on inside. When I entered chicane at 9:16 I couldn't see you. Then then came up inside kerb made contact with right front of my car while passing me as shown below.





9:41
Again due to draft was able to pass on inside down straight and was ahead going into braking zone with inside line and during corner. You were not along side me or in my field of view going into or during corner as shown below.



It was after that point that lap before Mulsanne that bombe32 I think who was watching race said I had to drop back so I immediately got out of the throttle so stayed to right on the straight for you to go around you then hit me from behind then passed.

Also I think a Toyota ahead of me out-braked itself at Arnage on a lap and when wide onto the grass I was a few car length behind and remember passing it.

Again if there was any contact Blaze_409 it was totally untended and I apologise.
 
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Holy Cr*p this thread is going to implode with all the fighting...............................

I will get to the replay in the next day or two for sure.

1 thing im gonna have to add for next season, is official race stewards.. :(
 
bombe32
Just realized... Jake and I lost a position to Team Peugeot Total in the last round, making us the worst team (Mike46 was a alone, can't call that a team)... OH NOOOO... that's bad...
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And guys, don't choose cars yet, you don't even know the regs yet. BK mentioned he wanted to increase bhp limit again... do some testing first :)
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TBH i dont know what i want to do...... :( maybe i need to form a panel to make a decision. I wish i could force mandatory stops or limit fuel tank size in the regs.. i wouldnt let anyone start a race with more than 65 liters
 
In real life racers race and try not to wreck. They are penalized by the race organizer/entity for misconduct. I am pretty sure they don't write essays arguing their case. Race clean and save your breath. Race dirty and hold your breath. Real simple. The organizer will disqualify or penalize as fit and as a result race conduct will fall into place in future races.

Now I know this is not real life racing, it's not a soap opera either.
 
To Blaze and Raazor

Race Incident reporting: To report a race incident (or a suspected incident) after the race send me a PM with info on what happened and what lap in happened on. If you dont give me a lap, I'm not watching the replay.
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I think everyone should remember this rule becuase rather than arguing, you get unkown amounts of private race reports.
 
bermudakid
TBH i dont know what i want to do...... :( maybe i need to form a panel to make a decision. I wish i could force mandatory stops or limit fuel tank size in the regs.. i wouldnt let anyone start a race with more than 65 liters
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You could just do nothing :goofy:

In all seriousness though, these regualtions are brilliant, and are the best equalizer for all the cars. Any more or less might spoil them and make 1 car better or worse than the others.
 
Well on a brighter note from all this argueing, tissimo will be happy when he gets back. He secured his top 5 finish in the championship :)
 
Well, has the bar fight stopped now? It seems. Maybe we should penalize both for the negativity, lol :D Ah well, forget about me, just joking here...
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Pics coming up, I actually think I saw all the crashes...

EDIT: Pics are in the group now, hope you like them.
 
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Pics are great bombe. Loved all your captions as always. Especially the "Where's Wally - Senna special" and "Future champion vs. Former champion" :D

As for Razor and Blaze they both cut the corner but from those pictures Blaze didn't make contact with Razor at all. If Blaze had cut the corner to gain an advantage that would need to be punished but as they both cut the corner, neither gained anything over the other. So as far as I'm aware that was fine :)
 
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There is contact, you can see in one of the pics that Razor's rear wheels don't have contact to the ground. But that's what I thought too. If Razor hadn't cut it, sure, penalty, but since both do, you can't say one is more wrong than correct, even though Razor must feel that Blaze steals the win.

Enough about that now :)
 
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