GTP Le Mans Prototype Series : Season 4 Complete

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Best time to race saturdays (qualifying still starts 30 mins before)

  • 10:00 AM Eastern U.S. - (1500 UK BST)

    Votes: 5 23.8%

  • 11:00 AM Eastern U.S. - (1600 UK)

    Votes: 8 38.1%

  • 12:00 PM Eastern U.S. - (1700 UK)

    Votes: 6 28.6%

  • 1:00 PM eastern U.S. - (1800 UK)

    Votes: 6 28.6%

  • 2:00 PM eastern U.S. - (1900 UK)

    Votes: 7 33.3%

  • 3:00 PM eastern U.S. - (2000 UK)

    Votes: 8 38.1%

  • 4:00 PM eastern U.S. - (2100 UK)

    Votes: 6 28.6%

  • 5:00 PM eastern U.S. - (2200 UK)

    Votes: 4 19.0%

  • 6:00 PM eastern U.S. - (2300 UK )

    Votes: 4 19.0%

  • 9:00 AM eastern U.S. - (1400 UK BST)

    Votes: 4 19.0%

  • other!?

    Votes: 0 0.0%
  • Total voters
    21
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bermudakid
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what will they be?



Test 1 Results - La Sarthe - Changeability 10

After 6 minutes of sunshine, the track become over cast by a large cloud covering the entire track at about 6 minutes. At 18 minutes the rain began. At 30 minutes, the track water began building. By 35 minutes, the track was at about 15% wet. By 45 minutes, it was 30%. After this, the rain began hammering and by 55 minutes, the track was 80%. At the end it was pretty much 100%.



Test 2 ongoing - La Sarthe - Changeability 8

12 mintues in and the weather is replicating what happened at 6 minutes in test 1. Looks bad. I think that at this rate, I will have to repeat test 1 to see if the reults are replicated. If they are then I will test out changeability of 5. So far, it looks like higher changeability changes how late it is before the weather cycle begins meaning that every wet race we do will be wet, meaning it would be best recommended that we have changeability of 0. I hope this is not the case but I am not racing if we are doing races where the start is dry and the end is wet because that isn't what racing is about. If it is fully random weather then so be it. But if it is rain starting at a given point give or take a minute, then that is not racing and we shouldn't have rain at all.


UPDATE: As I finised posting, it began raining at, surprise surprise, 18 minutes. Identical to the first test. No I know the changeability is two less but my theory outlined above seems correct. This is no longer random weather. It is weather starting at a fixed point. Oh well, I will conitnue with the test and then, if when I run changeability of 6, it starts raining at 18 minutes then I have only one recomendation and it is as final as it gets. Changeability of 0.
 
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Golfer there is NO CHANCE that thus series will be set to never rain. I guarantee you BK agrees with that. This series has had rain from day one, and dry starts with wet finishes would be sick anyway.
 
jakegirard
Golfer there is NO CHANCE that thus series will be set to never rain. I guarantee you BK agrees with that. This series has had rain from day one, and dry starts with wet finishes would be sick anyway.
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It would lose its epicness after the 5th race in a row with weather change that does exactly the same thing. I'm waiting for Golfer's result on 6 changeability first though.
 
6 minutes of test 2 left. Well, it seems that the result in the end is going to be identical to that on changeability on 10. Look, if you want to have weather changeability on then that is fine, but I won't be racing because I didnt sign up to an LMP race where every race starts in full dry, become wet 18 minutes after the race starts, then progressively gets wetter from the 30th minute. I mean for starters that wrecks all strategies since we all then know that you just pit in the first 30 minutes, then pit at 30 minutes for wet tyres, then drive to the end. SO that ruins any form of strategy. The racing will be stupid since you will get overtakes (a few) for 30 minutes then crashes for the other 30 minutes.


Unless changeability works on level 5 (I am running it lower due to two poor results) then having changeability on at all just makes it stupid. 6 dry races is far better than 2 dry races and 4 races where the conditions are all indetincal in terms of when the rain starts. Jake, you are not out there testing right now. I am. I am gathering the data on how the weather works. I am the one who has discovered the changeability 8 and 10 give the exact same result. I'm now doing a 3rd hour of testing to find the best possible changeability so it feels real. 6 dry races is far more realistic than 2 dry races and 4 semi dry races with exactly the smae conditons so try to find a decent argument to support your side.

Yes the series started on day one with weather. Then we put more weather change tracks in. Then the weather system got massively messed up, thus making a weather race a wet race, not a weather change race. Find a few people in this series (apart from MU, obvious reasons) that prefers full wet racing in GT5 over full dry racing.
 
From what I ran through last night myself, the weather always seems to go from dry to wet. Not dry to overcast to a little bit of rain to dry...

Weather system still sucks b*lls it appears.

Golfer, does changeability just affect the probability that the weather will go bad or does it affect the speed at which it changes?

And there will always be some wet weather racing in there at some point, Golfer, sorry you are taking your ball and going home due to it :indiff:
 
To be honest I like wet races more than dry so the more we have the better 👍 It's just a pity the weather system doesn't work properly though to make it even better :grumpy:
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Also, I know I'm a bit late jumping on the bandwaggon but the Senna documentary is fantastic. Just watched it for the first time today on Blu-ray on DVD. Didn't really learn anything particulary new, but it was a great tribute to him :)
 
Golfer I appreciate your testing and data, I'm just saying there will always be weather races. Maybe we choose one weather change track to set to dry .
 
Hmm, maybe if opening a lobby one hour early then the room is meant to open means it can be more variable? But I agree the weather system is screwed up big time.
 
Mike, the changeability speeds up how quickly the big clouds come in and how quickly the track starts getting wet after it starts raining at 18 minutes. On 10, it got wet at 30 mins. At 8, it got wet at about 35mins but by the 50 minutes mark, it was exactly the same.

Also, if we do have weather changeability on, then all that will happen is the lobby will open, 30 mins later it will be getting wet. Quali will be the biggest bit of strategy as you choose either wets or inters (only if quali starts at about 40 minutes though) and then come the race, the track will be 100% wet. So the only difference for us is the lobby loads up dry, so to get the best quali lap, arrive early, set it in the dry, then chill out as everyone spins in the wet.

I am running my test on changeability 5 at the moment. It has just gone 8 minutes and the big grey cloud has arrived. I feel like a ****ing time travelling weather man. At least my forecast is always spot on, down to the nearest 5 minutes I can be accurate.



Jake, just read your post. If you are going to do that, it has to be Spa. It is the track I love the most in the world and it would be good reward for my testing. I was thinking maybe run one weather change race where it is variable and the others in the dry, but if you run Spa permanantly dry while I am here, I would be more than happy to continue with other wet tracks.
 
Next we should try weather at say Suzuka to see if its any different? Doubt it would be but worth a shot.
 
Yeah. I'm too annoyed at this weather change not to try else where. Just over a minute and it should start rainign. But I have dinner.
 
Rain is the 'great equalizer'. I don't mind it one way or the other. I want to use the Toyota next season, unless the Bentley loses some weight.
 
Bentley is still a rocketship with the weight (easily top 2-3 cars). R8 is quick of course as is the GT-One. I think the BMW is up to the task though.. Have been using it in 1hr + races with 690pp (698hp) and really enjoying it.
 
Ok, well, I have just returned from ahving dinner. It seems that the rain did not begin at the 18 minute mark on changeability 5. It did however begin, at 48 minutes (only start to rain), which is about 10 seconds after I came back and asked "Has it rained?". Oh the irony.

But yeah, 5 is definately the best by a long way so far as it is mostly dry and as it proved, can rain. So we are currently doing a two hour test at Suzuka. Feel free to join. We will run a repeat test on Sautrday morning.
 
Just read that no one likes Fuji... didn't anyone find the race great at all?? I think Fuji has been the best race this season along with SSR5.

EDIT: I hope it would look like this:

P1 Monza
P2 Daytona
R1 Nurb
R2 Fuji / Seca
R3 Suzuka
R4 Spa
R5 SSR5
R6 La Sarthe
 
Ssr5 is gonna be crap now....

Zero slipstream on this game. Me and Tom tested in identical cars to check
 
Just heard that BK thinks we shouldn't have SSR5 in Season5.

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And I can see where AMF is coming from. For SSR5, I think that high slipstream is best at that one track and only that track.
 
Slipstream could be different for tracks it seems as I could slipstream Golfer in Suzuka getting slightly alongside before 130R (pulled out though lol) but with Amf, I was right behind him for the Mulsanne straight until the first chicane and gained no headwing at all.
 
amf7
When you go down the straights at sarthe and Tom OS barely keeping up it is crap yes
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It wasn't at all fun with the super-duper slipstream before, it was all about keeping up with the leaders or they would slipstream their way to victory - now that advantage should be gone and the GT-ONEs are sure to finish 1-2-3 :yuck:
 
Well if I wanted this to change the only track i would have like is nurb as you and your slipstream ruined my race :S
 
amf7
Well if I wanted this to change the only track i would have like is nurb as you and your slipstream ruined my race :S
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Sure it did - or you could have just been faster :p Seriously, I didn't try to overtake, I just kept up, only when you got worn tyres I was faster.
 
I was on the defensive due to this though... Really it shouldn't have got to that as I should have started P1 lol :p
 
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