GTP_WRS-Online Event 22 : The Grip Sensei Returns - June 25 & 28

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Presents...

The Grip Sensei Returns

An Online Race insipred on GT6 Week 22 Time Trial

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:: Only Open to Qualified GTP_Registered Members ::

:: Members are not obligated to take part ::

June 25th, 2014


European Time Slot
3:00 PM Eastern / 12:00 PM Pacific / 19:00 GMT / Check Local



North American Time Slot
10:00 PM Eastern / 7:00 PM Pacific / 2:00 AM GMT / Check Local


June 28th, 2014

*NEW* Worldwide Weekend Time Slot
5:00 PM Eastern / 2:00 PM Pacific / 21:00 GMT / 7:00 AM AEST / Check Local




Subaru BRZ GT300 Base Model '12 @ Nürburgring 24h

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Stewards Notes

Note that we are utilizing the time change feature of this track to fit a full 24hr cycle into 6 laps.
 
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In the event of a field of 13-16 drivers we will disable mics and race with one grid. With 17+ we will split the grid (SEE Lounge Splits BELOW).


Register Here


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(tables will auto update approximately every 30 minutes)


Eligibility

This WRS-Online event hosted by 3D3 Racing is open to GTP_Registered members only. If you are not currently on the registry run the GTP_Registry qualifier and join now!


Registration Instructions

The following must be performed by every driver for every event:
  • Click the registration button above, fill-in and submit the online registration form (be sure to use the PSN that's listed in the registry)
  • Leave a quick note in this thread to let us know you've registered and any other comments.
The following must be performed only one time per driver (not per event):
  • Submit the 3D3 Racing Online Driver Database Entry Form. Your information will need to be verified before you are added to the db and before your ID will appear in the registered driver table above. You can view the official driver database here.
Registration Changes

If you want to change your time slot, add a time slot or update your color choices just click on the registration link and fill out the form again and submit with new values. Your last entry will override any previous entries.

Cancellations

If for some reason, after you register for the event, you are unable to attend please click the registration button above and complete the form again selecting "cancel" as your status. Please also post a note in this thread as the table above can take some time to update.


Delaying or Restarting Race Start

Once the race countdown timer has started, the race will only be restarted in these cases:
  • Multiple drivers report a black screen/hang, instead of the 3-2-1 countdown.
  • One or more drivers get disconnected before race-pace has begun ("GO" for grid-starts, end of formation lap for rolling starts).
  • Steward realizes there is a condition that would lead to an unfair or poor race experience.
Once the race countdown timer has started, the race will explicitly NOT be restarted for:
  • Latecomers, even if you've registered
  • Driver realizes he picked the wrong car parts (ie, tires) or driving options (ie, Auto tranny)
Lounge Splits **NEW**

A more formal formula will be used to determine lobby assignments.

First, every driver that confirms their registration will be ranked using an event specific handicap equal to the minimum(best) of the following:
  1. Handicap from the official registry (driver does nothing, falls back on official handicap)
  2. Handicap from the official time trial (driver included in official time trial results)
  3. Handicap computed using an unofficial offline ghost lap replay
    • Must conform to all time trial rules and be attached to a post in the online thread
    • Submitted after TT deadline on Monday @ 23:59 GMT
    • Submitted at least 8 hours prior to the event start time
  4. Handicap computed using the best clean lap of an online steward observed qualification race
    • Tire wear set to off, but otherwise conforming to online regulations
    • 5 lap race: 1 out lap, 3 timed hot laps, 1 cool down lap.
    • Scheduled with steward ahead of time (plan ahead and request via thread)
    • Completed at least 3 hours prior to the event start time

Second, we will sort the confirmed drivers 90 minutes prior to the race and divide them up evenly. If there are an odd numbers of drivers the extra driver will be assigned to the A room. At that point the stewards convene and assign a director and supporting steward for each lobby. Then at about 50-60 minutes prior to the race the room #s and driver assignments will be published to the thread.



Reserves: Drivers with reserve status at 90 minutes prior to event start will not be included in the lobby assignments, but will be listed with their applicable handicap in a reserve list. They will have to request on the thread to be added to a lobby and the assignment will be at the discretion of the stewards. In that case handicap will be used as a guide, but there are no guarantees last minute confirms/entries will get the room you want and in some rare cases may not get to race at all (e.g. if the room split is such that there is two full rooms or if the new driver would create an additional room that wouldn't be supportable with the number of stewards available). Reserves will be handled on a first to request basis using the online race thread. Do not use the google form to confirm/register at the last minute, but use a thread post instead. If you are on reserve list or not listed at all in the lobby assignments do not join a room until instructed to do so.



Abuse: Because confirming guarantees you a grid spot it's important that nobody abuses the status. If you are fairly confident (80%) you are going to make the race sign up as confirmed ahead of time, but it's important you update your status as you get more information and for sure no later than 90 minutes prior to the race. At that point if you are not 99% sure you should be on reserve. This is a courtesy we ask, not only for the admins/stewards, but also for the benefit of other drivers that have accurately stated their status. We're going to use a three strike rule. A confirmed driver that "no shows" will receive 2 strikes. A confirmed driver that cancels less than 90 minutes of the race, but before race start will get 1 strike. Three strikes in any 8 week period and the driver risks being suspended from the online participation for 8 weeks. We know "stuff happens" and real life comes first so this allows some forgiveness, but we can't manage multiple rooms effectively if we don't know at least a bit ahead of time who is going to be showing up and we can't have people taking advantage of the system to guarantee their spot at the cost of someone else.


These rules will only apply for weekly Wednesday events where more than 16 drivers are confirmed. In the case of 16 or less the situation is more relaxed as the stewards just open up one lobby, all confirmed drivers are guaranteed a spot, and reserves are given grid spots on a first come first serve basis.

Goals of these rules?
  • Creates lounges of similar paced drivers equitably without relying on honor based practice laps.
  • Allows drivers that have improved beyond their handicap to qualify in a "faster" lounge.
  • Allows drivers that did not have time to run the TT to submit an offline lap well after the official TT deadline.
  • Allows drivers to run in an online setup to qualify if they don't want to deal with offline replays. These could be done during any of the practice sessions as long as a steward is present to observe.
  • Allows drivers to fall back on registry handicap if they have no time to pre-qualify.

We hope/expect the vast majority of drivers are covered by their handicap or TT result and the other two options are only used in a few cases each week. Drivers who have not been official processed should take advantage of #3 or #4 or they will be "approximately" assigned based on our best guess of their handicap.

Also note that the above procedures will typically only apply to lobby assignments. Within each lobby there will still be a pre-race qualification session to determine grid order.
 
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Official Practice Times
  • NA: Ad-hoc - participants can start rooms
  • EU: Tuesdays @ 19:00 GMT | 3:00 PM Eastern | 12:00 PM Pacific
  • Pre-Race: Lobby assignments will be posted ~1 hour prior to the official start time
Basic Settings
  • Room Mode: PR = Practice, Race
  • Room Privacy: Public
  • Entry: Type GTP WRS to identify yourself if you don't use a GTP tag
Room Settings
  • Room Comment: GTP_WRS: Grip Sensei
  • Room Type: Race for Real
  • Fixed Room Host: No
  • Max Number of Participants: 16 per lounge
  • Race Quality: Standard
  • Voice Chat Quality: Standard
Course Settings
  • Course: Nürburgring 24h
  • No. of Laps: 6 and rolling staggered start at the T1 point
  • Weather: 0%
  • Weather Changeability: Fixed
  • Surface Water at Race Start: 0%
  • Time:16:00
  • Time Progression: 26 *full 24h cycle in ~50min*
Qualifier Settings
  • Qualifier Format: NA
  • Time Limit: NA
  • Grid Order: Handicap order, using the lower of the Time Trial and official handicap as of race day
Race Settings
  • Hold Races Automatically: Disabled
  • Start Type: Staggered Formation Lap with Rolling Start at T1 (see below)
  • Grid Order: Fastest First
  • Boost: No
  • Penalty: None
  • Tire Wear/Fuel Consumption: Fast
  • Grip Reduction on Wet Track/Track Edge: Real
  • Minimum Number of Pit Stops: 0
  • Require Tire Type Change: Off
  • Race Finish Delay: 180 sec
  • Visible Damage: Off
  • Mechanical Damage: Light
  • Slipstream Strength: Real
Car Selection Method
  • Car Selection Method: Garage
  • Car Filters: Filter by Make -> Manufacturers -> Subaru
  • PP Limit: 518 PP
  • Max Power Limit: 361 HP
  • Minimum Weight: 1150 kg
  • Drivetrain: FR
  • Tires: Racing Medium
  • Nitrous: Prohibited
  • Vehicle Tuning: Unrestricted - But Aero and Brake Balance are the only allowed modifications
  • Custom Rims: NA
  • Oil change: Allowed
  • Brake Balance Adjustment: Allowed
Limit Driving Options
  • Skid Recovery Force: Prohibited
  • Active Steering: Prohibited
  • Active Stability Management (ASM): Available / Optional
  • Driving Line: Available / Optional
  • Traction Control: Available / Optional
  • ABS: Available / Optional
  • Handbrake: Prohibited
Partial Formation Lap Rolling Start




  • After the qualification time is complete a steward will record the results.
  • The system will place all drivers on the grid and begin the countdown timer.
  • Drivers should remain stopped on the grid after the countdown timer.
  • A steward will announce the starting order and drivers should proceed into a staggered formation in the order called.
  • Pole sitter will choose his/her preferred side of the track and other drivers will alternate sides.
  • There should be no overlap between cars in the staggered formation.
  • Speed limit on formation lap is 62 mph | 100 km/h and pole sitter should maintain this speed (or less) to keep pack together, in particular in the final sector.
  • Weaving or other tire warming procedures are NOT allowed during the formation lap.
  • Pole sitter will exit the last corner and take care to give enough time to allow all cars behind to safely exit the final corner.
  • Start marker for Nürburgring 24h is the start/finish line.
  • The pole sitter should start the race by accelerating to race pace at the identified start marker (track specific and may or may not be the start/finish line).
  • All other drivers should accelerate after the driver in front of you does so.
  • No passing is allowed before the start marker.
  • Be cautious and courteous in the first turn. Dive bombing will be penalized and will not be tolerated.
Track Boundary Guidelines
Drivers are expected to do their best to stay within track boundaries per the OLR. Mistakes happens over the course of a long race and the random off or two will be overlooked in most instances, but if a pattern of boundary abuse is observed penalties will be handed out which include 15 seconds for a "minor" pattern of abuse, 30 seconds for a "substantial" pattern of abuse, and a DQ for "complete disregard" of track boundaries. In cases where penalties may not impact the driver (e.g. DC), the penalty may be carried over to the next event and may be applied as a 5 (minor) or 10 (major) grid spot penalty.
It's up to the admins' discretion exactly what qualifies as "minor", "substantial" or "complete disregard". Going outside the rumble by a centimeter isn't as serious as a car length wide excursions into the run off area. Factors such as dirty air and traffic also come into play. If you find yourself going wide then the next lap you're expected to slow down a bit more to make sure you stay within boundaries. If you make the same mistake multiple times and you want to avoid a penalty you can always self-penalize during the race by lifting for a very brief period upon returning to the track. Continuing to hammer the throttle after repeated boundary overruns may very well end with a post race penalty.

General Guidelines:
  • Contact with walls should be avoided. Wall riding/bouncing to gain time will be penalized and/or can result in disqualification. This includes pit entry/exit.
  • Rumble/ripple strips are part of the track
  • Runoff areas are not part of the track.
  • If you overrun boundaries by accident, lift momentarily to make sure you don't gain any advantage.
  • Do not complete a pass that was made possible by going outside track boundaries.
Track Specific Guidelines:
  • Red and White rumbles, gray cobblestones, and tarmac are track.
  • Do not cross the white pit-in and pit-out lines.


Standard Clean OLR Rules Apply:
  • Unless otherwise specified, all rules from the original WRS event apply.
  • You are expected to drive clean at all times as if you are racing in the WRS. All participants are required to follow the GTPlanet Online Racing Rules & Guidelines.
  • 3D3 Race Stewards (who are taking part in race, but will review the replay) reserve the right to kick out or invalidate the result of any driver from the Race Room for driving offensively. If you ignore any warnings from the stewards and are kicked out of the race room, you will not be allowed to participate in future 3D3 events.
  • Contact with walls should be avoided. Wall riding/bouncing to gain time will be penalized and/or can result in disqualification.
  • Rumble/ripple strips are part of the track
  • Runoff areas are not part of the track including green painted concrete.
  • Limit your contact with walls or objects, visible or invisible
  • No hybrids
  • No cheating of any kind
  • Nothing that goes against the spirit of the rules
  • Passing and Blocking: Aggressive blocking is not permitted, but the driver in front has the right to choose his/her line and braking point and drivers behind should respect that line. Be especially careful when you are on older tires than the competition as the speed difference may be significant. These events are "for fun" so just play nice and take a conservative rather than an aggressive approach when possible.
Good Luck, OLR Team :gtplanet:

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Notes:

  • Practice times submitted must be from an online lap with tire wear on.
  • Lap splits are not allowed until after the official time trial has closed.
  • If you go faster in another session re-submit, your latest submitted lap will be displayed.
  • Please be sure to match the regulations used for the events so all drivers are using a common set of regulations.

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Penalties
@gtp_Tenderly DQ for a blatant hit-n-run 3'30 into lap 1
@Gameratwork99 (darren) DQ for a blatant hit-n-run at the final chicane on the final lap
@Masterhec 30sec major for avoidable contact causing an off during an overtake 4'40 into lap 1

Darren and tenderly are on last chance status. If you receive a major 30sec or DQ in the next 2 months, you will be placed on probation/suspension for a period of time to be determined.


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You might wanna change this,

"GTP_WRS Online Event 21"

Since it's event 22.
 
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Practice room, testing 24hr time change and tire/fuel.

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I left Otaku and Red in the room, sorry guys, had to bail.
 
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Registered for Wednesday, maybe for Saturday.
 
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Registered for Wednesday, maybe for Saturday.
I seem to remember us having an interesting race in the 458 near the end of GT5. 👍


Tests last night came up with Fast tire/fuel wear, which will force a pit stop on lap 2, 3, or 4 (total laps = 6), with about 38L needing to be added. After 3 laps and many spins the worst tire was the left front at 6.

First lap it slowly gets darker, 2nd lap is sunset and full-dark, 3rd lap full-dark and ends with sunrise. Obviously, daylight from then on.

We'll be doing a rolling staggered start, grid ordered by the lower of your handicap for the time trial or your official Registry handicap, as of last night's update.

The start point will be T1, going into the Ford Chicane.

Should be epic. :drool:
 
I seem to remember us having an interesting race in the 458 near the end of GT5. 👍

Tests last night came up with Fast tire/fuel wear, which will force a pit stop on lap 2, 3, or 4 (total laps = 6), with about 38L needing to be added. After 3 laps and many spins the worst tire was the left front at 6.

First lap it slowly gets darker, 2nd lap is sunset and full-dark, 3rd lap full-dark and ends with sunrise. Obviously, daylight from then on.

We'll be doing a rolling staggered start, grid ordered by the lower of your handicap for the time trial or your official Registry handicap, as of last night's update.

The start point will be T1, going into the Ford Chicane.

Should be epic. :drool:
The really epic one was with Tim, in the original "GripMeister" race at this track.

He was in first, I was second. I was catching him fast, he was strong on the GP section while I was strong on the Nordschleife, especially in the technical section between the 2 carousels. I think I narrowed it all the way to about 1 second, from probably 3 or 4 at the start of the final lap. But then I ran out of fuel at around Pflantzgarten. And finished the race in last, IIRC.

BTW - I assume by lower of the 2 handicaps you mean that I will be placed based on my registry handicap of about 2.0 vs. my TT handicap of about 2.5? Lower could be taken a couple of different ways. ;)

And I think I will be using exposure of 0.7 or something. :P
 
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The really epic one was with Tim, in the original "GripMeister" race at this track.

He was in first, I was second. I was catching him fast, he was strong on the GP section while I was strong on the Nordschleife, especially in the technical section between the 2 carousels. I think I narrowed it all the way to about 1 second, from probably 3 or 4 at the start of the final lap. But then I ran out of fuel at around Pflantzgarten. And finished the race in last, IIRC.

BTW - I assume by lower of the 2 handicaps you mean that I will be placed based on my registry handicap of about 2.0 vs. my TT handicap of about 2.5? Lower could be taken a couple of different ways. ;)

And I think I will be using exposure of 0.7 or something. :P
That's right, whichever one is numerically lower, ie, better. 👍

The yellow lights on this car are pretty bright, but good point that the dark could be combated with exposure brightness. :)
 
I seem to remember us having an interesting race in the 458 near the end of GT5. 👍


Tests last night came up with Fast tire/fuel wear, which will force a pit stop on lap 2, 3, or 4 (total laps = 6), with about 38L needing to be added. After 3 laps and many spins the worst tire was the left front at 6.

First lap it slowly gets darker, 2nd lap is sunset and full-dark, 3rd lap full-dark and ends with sunrise. Obviously, daylight from then on.

We'll be doing a rolling staggered start, grid ordered by the lower of your handicap for the time trial or your official Registry handicap, as of last night's update.

The start point will be T1, going into the Ford Chicane.

Should be epic. :drool:

This is mad geniuses staff guys, sound incredible can't wait
Is the rolling staggered start any different from last week's?
 
This is mad geniuses staff guys, sound incredible can't wait
Is the rolling staggered start any different from last week's?
In a couple ways:

  • We're not doing live qualifying on this long track, the race will be started at the time we normally start 3-lap quali.
  • 2 options for starting the race
    • Ad-hoc - The steward will announce the grid order, start the race, and we will all get into the correct order as we slowly pull away from the grid.
    • Staged - The steward will announce the grid order and everyone pulls out of the pits and forms a line in order. The race is then started.
  • From then on it's just like normal, except we're not doing a whole formation lap, just a formation sector.
It was either this method or a grid start and chaos into turn 1. :crazy:
 
In a couple ways:

  • We're not doing live qualifying on this long track, the race will be started at the time we normally start 3-lap quali.
  • 2 options for starting the race
    • Ad-hoc - The steward will announce the grid order, start the race, and we will all get into the correct order as we slowly pull away from the grid.
    • Staged - The steward will announce the grid order and everyone pulls out of the pits and forms a line in order. The race is then started.
  • From then on it's just like normal, except we're not doing a whole formation lap, just a formation sector.
It was either this method or a grid start and chaos into turn 1. :crazy:

Got it. Single line or double?
 
Practice room.

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Good practice session guys. :D
 
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I'm confirmed on both races today. See you in some hours guys (Right after the match in fact: Vamos Argentina carajo!!!)
 
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