GTP_WRS-Online Event 95 : Dat Rising Sun (+ tire compound change) - Nov 14 & 18

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    :: Only Open to Qualified GTP_Registered Members ::

    :: Members are not obligated to take part ::





    Saturday November 14th, 2015


    Worldwide Weekend Time Slot
    4:00 PM Eastern / 1:00 AM Pacific / 21:00 GMT Check Local



    Wednesday November 18th, 2015


    European Time Slot

    3:00 PM Eastern / 12:00 PM Pacific / 20:00 GMT / Check Local

    North American Time Slot

    10:00 PM Eastern / 7:00 PM Pacific / 3:00 AM GMT / Check Local




    Nissan 240ZG (HS30) '71 and Fairlady @ Mid-Field Raceway (Reverse)


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    Stewards Notes:
    When testing we couldn't decide between CS and CM tires, so we decided for the online race we'll force 1 pit and require a change to the other compound.
     
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    In the event of a field of 13-16 drivers we will disable mics and race with one grid. With 17+ we will split the grid (SEE Lounge Splits BELOW).


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    (tables will auto update approximately every 30 minutes)


    Eligibility

    This WRS-Online event hosted by 3D3 Racing is open to GTP_Registered members only. If you are not currently on the registry run the GTP_Registry qualifier and join now!


    Registration Instructions

    The following must be performed by every driver for every event:
    • Click the registration button above, fill-in and submit the online registration form (be sure to use the PSN that's listed in the registry)
    • Leave a quick note in this thread to let us know you've registered and any other comments.
    The following must be performed only one time per driver (not per event):
    • Submit the 3D3 Racing Online Driver Database Entry Form. Your information will need to be verified before you are added to the db and before your ID will appear in the registered driver table above. You can view the official driver database here.
    Registration Changes

    If you want to change your time slot, add a time slot or update your color choices just click on the registration link and fill out the form again and submit with new values. Your last entry will override any previous entries.

    Cancellations

    If for some reason, after you register for the event, you are unable to attend please click the registration button above and complete the form again selecting "cancel" as your status. Please also post a note in this thread as the table above can take some time to update.


    Delaying or Restarting Race Start

    Once the race countdown timer has started, the race will only be restarted in these cases:
    • Multiple drivers report a black screen/hang, instead of the 3-2-1 countdown.
    • One or more drivers get disconnected before race-pace has begun ("GO" for grid-starts, end of formation lap for rolling starts).
    • Steward realizes there is a condition that would lead to an unfair or poor race experience.
    Once the race countdown timer has started, the race will explicitly NOT be restarted for:
    • Latecomers, even if you've registered
    • Driver realizes he picked the wrong car parts (ie, tires) or driving options (ie, Auto tranny)
    Lounge Splits

    A more formal formula will be used to determine lobby assignments.

    First, every driver that confirms their registration will be ranked using an event specific handicap equal to the minimum(best) of the following:
    1. Handicap from the official registry (driver does nothing, falls back on official handicap)
    2. Handicap from the official time trial (driver included in official time trial results)
    3. Handicap computed using an unofficial offline ghost lap replay
      • Must conform to all time trial rules and be attached to a post in the online thread
      • Submitted after TT deadline on Monday @ 23:59 GMT
      • Submitted at least 8 hours prior to the event start time
    4. Handicap computed using the best clean lap of an online steward observed qualification race
      • Tire wear set to off, but otherwise conforming to online regulations
      • 5 lap race: 1 out lap, 3 timed hot laps, 1 cool down lap.
      • Scheduled with steward ahead of time (plan ahead and request via thread)
      • Completed at least 3 hours prior to the event start time

    Second, we will sort the confirmed drivers 90 minutes prior to the race and divide them up evenly. If there are an odd numbers of drivers the extra driver will be assigned to the A room. At that point the stewards convene and assign a director and supporting steward for each lobby. Then at about 50-60 minutes prior to the race the room #s and driver assignments will be published to the thread.



    Reserves: Drivers with reserve status at 90 minutes prior to event start will not be included in the lobby assignments, but will be listed with their applicable handicap in a reserve list. They will have to request on the thread to be added to a lobby and the assignment will be at the discretion of the stewards. In that case handicap will be used as a guide, but there are no guarantees last minute confirms/entries will get the room you want and in some rare cases may not get to race at all (e.g. if the room split is such that there is two full rooms or if the new driver would create an additional room that wouldn't be supportable with the number of stewards available). Reserves will be handled on a first to request basis using the online race thread. Do not use the google form to confirm/register at the last minute, but use a thread post instead. If you are on reserve list or not listed at all in the lobby assignments do not join a room until instructed to do so.



    Abuse: Because confirming guarantees you a grid spot it's important that nobody abuses the status. If you are fairly confident (80%) you are going to make the race sign up as confirmed ahead of time, but it's important you update your status as you get more information and for sure no later than 90 minutes prior to the race. At that point if you are not 99% sure you should be on reserve. This is a courtesy we ask, not only for the admins/stewards, but also for the benefit of other drivers that have accurately stated their status. We're going to use a three strike rule. A confirmed driver that "no shows" will receive 2 strikes. A confirmed driver that cancels less than 90 minutes of the race, but before race start will get 1 strike. Three strikes in any 8 week period and the driver risks being suspended from the online participation for 8 weeks. We know "stuff happens" and real life comes first so this allows some forgiveness, but we can't manage multiple rooms effectively if we don't know at least a bit ahead of time who is going to be showing up and we can't have people taking advantage of the system to guarantee their spot at the cost of someone else.


    These rules will only apply for weekly Wednesday events where more than 16 drivers are confirmed. In the case of 16 or less the situation is more relaxed as the stewards just open up one lobby, all confirmed drivers are guaranteed a spot, and reserves are given grid spots on a first come first serve basis.

    Goals of these rules?
    • Creates lounges of similar paced drivers equitably without relying on honor based practice laps.
    • Allows drivers that have improved beyond their handicap to qualify in a "faster" lounge.
    • Allows drivers that did not have time to run the TT to submit an offline lap well after the official TT deadline.
    • Allows drivers to run in an online setup to qualify if they don't want to deal with offline replays. These could be done during any of the practice sessions as long as a steward is present to observe.
    • Allows drivers to fall back on registry handicap if they have no time to pre-qualify.

    We hope/expect the vast majority of drivers are covered by their handicap or TT result and the other two options are only used in a few cases each week. Drivers who have not been official processed should take advantage of #3 or #4 or they will be "approximately" assigned based on our best guess of their handicap.

    Also note that the above procedures will typically only apply to lobby assignments. Within each lobby there will still be a pre-race qualification session to determine grid order.


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    Official Practice Times
    • GTP_WRS club: Open at all hours :gtpflag:
    • Pre-Race: Lobby assignments will be posted ~1 hour prior to the official start time
    Basic Settings
    • Room Mode: PQR = Practice, Qualify, Race
    • Room Privacy: GTP_WRS Club Only
    Room Settings
    • Room Comment: #95 Dat Rising Sun (WW/EU/NA)
    • Room Type: Race for Real
    • Fixed Room Host: No
    • Max Number of Participants: 16 per lounge
    • Race Quality: Standard
    • Voice Chat Quality: Standard
    Course Settings
    • Course: Mid-Field Raceway (Reverse)
    • No. of Laps: 33 + 1 formation
    • Weather: 0
    • Weather Changeability: 0
    • Surface Water at Race Start: 0
    • Time: 9:30
    • Time Progression: 10
    Qualifier Settings
    • Qualifier Format: Race Alone
    • Time Limit: 6 Mins
    • Start Mode: Start from final corner
    Race Settings
    • Hold Races Automatically: Disabled
    • Start Type: Staggered Formation Lap with Rolling Start (see below)
    • Grid Order: Fastest First
    • Boost: No
    • Penalty: None
    • Tire Wear/Fuel Consumption: Very Fast
    • Grip Reduction on Wet Track/Track Edge: Real
    • Minimum Number of Pit Stops: 1
    • Require Tire Type Change: ON -- CS & CM tires (Pits closed for first and last 5 laps -- Pits OPEN at the end of 6/34, and CLOSE at the end of 29/34).
    • Race Finish Delay: 180 sec
    • Visible Damage: Off
    • Mechanical Damage: Light
    • Slipstream Strength: Real
    Car Selection Method
    • Car Selection Method: Garage
    • Car Filters: Filter by Make -> Manufacturers -> Nissan
    • PP Limit: 384 PP
    • Max Power Limit: 155 HP (stock + oil change)
    • Minimum Weight: 1010 kg (stock)
    • Drivetrain: FR
    • Tires: Comfort Soft & Medium
    • Nitrous: Prohibited
    • Vehicle Tuning: Prohibited
    • Custom Rims, Paint: Allowed
    • Oil change: Allowed
    • Brake Balance Adjustment: Allowed


    Limit Driving Options
    • Skid Recovery Force: Prohibited
    • Active Steering: Prohibited
    • Active Stability Management (ASM): Available / Optional
    • Driving Line: Available / Optional
    • Traction Control: Available / Optional
    • ABS: Available / Optional
    • Handbrake : Prohibited
    Tunes:
    N/A



    Formation Lap



    • After the qualification time is complete a steward will record the results.
    • The system will place all drivers on the grid and begin the countdown timer.
    • Drivers should remain stopped on the grid after the countdown timer.
    • A steward will announce the starting order and drivers should proceed into a staggered formation in the order called.
    • Pole sitter will choose his/her preferred side of the track and other drivers will alternate sides.
    • There should be no overlap between cars in the staggered formation.
    • Speed limit on formation lap is 62 mph | 100 km/h and pole sitter should maintain this speed (or less) to keep pack together, in particular in the final sector.
    • Weaving or other tire warming procedures are NOT allowed during the formation lap.
    • Pole sitter will exit the last corner and take care to give enough time to allow all cars behind to safely exit the final corner.
    • Start marker is the start/finish line.
    • The pole sitter should start the race by accelerating to race pace at the identified start marker (track specific and may or may not be the start/finish line).
    • All other drivers should accelerate after the driver in front of you does so.
    • No passing is allowed before the start marker.
    • Be cautious and courteous in the first turn. Dive bombing will be penalized and will not be tolerated.
    Track Boundary Guidelines
    Drivers are expected to do their best to stay within track boundaries per the OLR. Mistakes happens over the course of a long race and the random off or two will be overlooked in most instances, but if a pattern of boundary abuse is observed penalties will be handed out which include 15 seconds for a "minor" pattern of abuse, 30 seconds for a "substantial" pattern of abuse, and a DQ for "complete disregard" of track boundaries. In cases where penalties may not impact the driver (e.g. DC), the penalty may be carried over to the next event and may be applied as a 5 (minor) or 10 (major) grid spot penalty.
    It's up to the admins' discretion exactly what qualifies as "minor", "substantial" or "complete disregard". Going outside the rumble by a centimeter isn't as serious as a car length wide excursions into the run off area. Factors such as dirty air and traffic also come into play. If you find yourself going wide then the next lap you're expected to slow down a bit more to make sure you stay within boundaries. If you make the same mistake multiple times and you want to avoid a penalty you can always self-penalize during the race by lifting for a very brief period upon returning to the track. Continuing to hammer the throttle after repeated boundary overruns may very well end with a post race penalty.

    General Guidelines:
    • Contact with walls should be avoided. Wall riding/bouncing to gain time will be penalized and/or can result in disqualification. This includes pit entry/exit.
    • Rumble/ripple strips are part of the track
    • Runoff areas are not part of the track.
    • If you overrun boundaries by accident, lift momentarily to make sure you don't gain any advantage.
    • Do not complete a pass that was made possible by going outside track boundaries.
    Track Specific Guidelines:
    • Same track limits as the Time Trial.
    Standard Clean OLR Rules Apply:
    • Unless otherwise specified, all rules from the original WRS event apply.
    • You are expected to drive clean at all times as if you are racing in the WRS. All participants are required to follow the GTPlanet Online Racing Rules & Guidelines.
    • 3D3 Race Stewards (who are taking part in race, but will review the replay) reserve the right to kick out or invalidate the result of any driver from the Race Room for driving offensively. If you ignore any warnings from the stewards and are kicked out of the race room, you will not be allowed to participate in future 3D3 events.
    • Contact with walls should be avoided. Wall riding/bouncing to gain time will be penalized and/or can result in disqualification.
    • Rumble/ripple strips are part of the track
    • Runoff areas are not part of the track including green painted concrete.
    • Limit your contact with walls or objects, visible or invisible
    • No hybrids
    • No cheating of any kind
    • Nothing that goes against the spirit of the rules
    • Passing and Blocking: Aggressive blocking is not permitted, but the driver in front has the right to choose his/her line and braking point and drivers behind should respect that line. Be especially careful when you are on older tires than the competition as the speed difference may be significant. These events are "for fun" so just play nice and take a conservative rather than an aggressive approach when possible.
    Good Luck, OLR Team:gtplanet:

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  6. roamer2629

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    Love the different compounds idea :tup: will surely make for some interesting racing :)
     
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    room OPEN
     
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    Practice room up for a little while, before we switch to Career practice.
     
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    Thanks guys for the help testing. :D @MadMax @mcsqueegy @GTP_Patrick1 @OZ . Race length increased by 1 lap (33 + 1 formation)

    Added rules to the OP - pits are closed for the first and last 5 laps.

     
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  10. mcsqueegy

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    Looks like I might be at the WW race after all :) hopefully my connection lasts the whole race this time!
     
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    Practice room open
    EDIT: closed
     
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    WW room open.
     
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    In case it wasn't obvious...I moved the WW back 1hr this week, since it makes it easier for a few in EU.

    Quali starts in 40min.
     
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    3 spots left in the room, 1st come 1st served.
     
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    Room full didn't see your post :idea:
     
  17. Don Mejillone

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    C U Next time
     
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    it wasn't obvious just hurry'd back from work, have fun !
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    Argh, I missed the time change. Sorry!
     
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    Same here, sorry fellas :nervous:
     
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    We're doing some encores if you guys want to join, sorry about that.
     
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    Great race guys, thanks for having me tonight! Seems i need to attend strategy class 101, but Big Fun! :D:tup:
     
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    Once again, i'll attend to wesneday NA timeslot, since i'll be out of vacations then. Looking forward to race you all once again
     
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    Require Tire Type Change: ON -- CS & CM tires (Pits closed for first and last 5 laps -- Pits OPEN at the end of 6/34, and CLOSE at the end of 29/34).

    It was my first race with theese rules. Thought I must pit and change tire compound during race, but was surprised that it is legal to pit during qualy and after then all race can be done without piting or with same compound. If it is right I think the isn't any obvious diference betveen usual rules and theese rules. I sugest that piting and tire sompound change should be done during RACE - like in F-1.
     
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    The reason Bart did that move was he wanted to quali on CS tires but start the race on CM tires. So before quali he puts on CM tires then once quali starts he goes directly to the pits to put on CS tires. You lose a lap of quali by doing that, but you still get to run the quali on CS tires. With that strategy Bart was on CM tires for start of race, and it took a little while for us to get by him. He still had to do a tire change in the race and switch compounds.

    You can't make the race without pitting for fuel so he still had to pit, not sure if the game counts a qualifier pit stop as a race pit stop with compound change?
     
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    So what you start the quali with is what you start the race with even if you pit and change tires?
     
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    Yes
     
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    I never knew that. Thanks
     
  29. Napalm_LT

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    Can I start quali on CS, change to CM and all race go on CS? :) If yes, I like it, but think that we are loosing this mind of tire compound change...
     
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    Not much fun for the cars that don't do the pit for quali. If the cars that do the pit during quali start ahead of you, you have to get by them as quickly as possible as they are about 2 seconds a lap slower. I see how strategically it can help, but hurts people on CS tires who are behind the CM tires for race start.
     
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