GTP_WRS Week 122 : S-4 Strikes Again!

Discussion in 'WRS Archive' started by MadMax, May 16, 2016.

  1. MadMax

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    GT6 Week 122 : S-4 Strikes Again!


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    Hotlap Event in Arcade Mode Time Trial
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    PENNZOIL Nismo GT-R '99
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    Mid-Field Raceway


    :: Only Open to Qualified GTP_Registered Members ::


    :: Members are not obligated to take part ::


    Race Details:
    • Mode: Arcade Mode > Single Player > Time Trial
    • Track: Original > Mid-Field Raceway
    • Car Type: Garage/Favorites Car
    • Make: Japan > Nissan
    • Model: PENNZOIL Nismo GT-R '99
    • Power: 522 bhp (after oil change)
    • Weight: 1200 kg (stock)
    • PP: 579
    Driving Options:
    • Transmission: Auto or Manual
    • Tires: Sports Soft (front and rear)
    • Driving Line Optional
    • Traction Control | ASM | ABS: Optional
    • Brake Balance: Optional
    • Active Steering | Skid Recovery Force: Prohibited
    • Limited Slip , Suspension and Downforce Tuning: Allowed
    • Ballast & Position Adjustments: Allowed
    • Transmission Tuning: Prohibited
    • Power upgrades: Prohibited
    • Body Rigidity Improvement: Prohibited
    • In-Race RA Functions: Optional
    Course Settings:
    • Time: Any
    • Weather: 0/0/0
    • Grip Reduction on Track Edge: Real
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    Race Specifics:
    • The event MUST be run using your registered account
    • The use of the clutch that is found on the G25, G27, and other high end racing wheels is strictly prohibited.
    • Use of the Handbrake is Prohibited.
    • No Contact with walls or other objects. Any contact with walls, no matter how minor, will result in a DQ.
    • Tarmac between white lines , White line and Red and White rumble strips are legal track. No other surfaces are track.


    Steward's Comments:
    A combo down the memorylane everyone who played GT2 and/or GT3 would remember as the S-4 Licence test.

    In GT2 this car had 4-wheel drive and over 700 bhp :eek:
    It's a Skyline GT-R , it must be 4WD , right?

    Since GT3 the car has been Front engine Rear wheel drive.. and a bit less powerfull.


    This time we're tackling the S-4 with tuning. :mischievous:

    Viewing your T1 & T2 Time Splits:
    • You need to make sure you save the 'Save Best Lap Replay' (ghost replay), not the 'Save Replay' (See pic below)
    • To view your best lap replay, go to 'My Home' and watch the replay from there using the 'Gallery' option.
    • Live timing monitor does not work properly, so we have to use a small trick to view splits.
    • While viewing your Replay, pause the lap by hitting start, before the end of the first sector.
    • While keeping the replay paused, advance the replay, using the forward arrow on the replay HUD. This will advance the replay to the end of the first sector. That's your T1 split, write it down.
    • Advance the replay again. That will show the lap to date time on the screen, this is your first and second sector time, added together.
    • To post your T1 & T2 Splits, simply post the lap to date times that are shown in the middle of the screen. Do not try to calculate the actual split times, the Fetchbot will do that for you.
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    (Best Lap Replay Icon)


    Standard Clean OLR Rules:

    • At Least 2 Tires must be in contact with track at all times.

      • In situations where contact with the track is not possible because tires are airborne (above the ground), then the run is only legal if at least two tires in-line would have made contact with the track if the car were not airborne.
      • If track contact cannot be 100% determined, then consider it dirty.
    • Rumble/ripple strips are part of the track.
    • No contact with walls or objects, visible or invisible
    • If you're not 100% sure that your lap is clean, then consider it dirty
    • No hybrids
    • No cheating of any kind,these are relaxed races and we are experienced racers, we know what times can be done,and we can read your mind. We will know.
    • Nothing that goes against the spirit of the rules.
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    Thread rules:
    The following information cannot be discussed in this thread (they can, however, be discussed on Skype or via other private IM service.):
    • Total Lap Time
    • Any information which can be used to infer your total laptime
    The following information can be discussed in this thread :
    • The first 2 splits: T1 and T2 times
    • Any settings discussion
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    Submission:
    All submissions must be sent by PM (Subject title: GTP_WRS Week 122 Submission ) to (WRSFetchbot):
    • Then attach your 'Best Lap'/'Ghost' replay in zip file form. Everyone submits a replay instead of listing a lap time.
    • You will need to put something in the message body in order to begin a conversation. It doesn't matter what you put, it can even be 1 letter or symbol. Nobody but the Fetchbot is going to see it, so it's sort of pointless, anyhow.
    • You will get an automated response within 15min, letting you know whether your submission was accepted, or if you had an error.
    • If you have an error, don't panic. Just review the instructions for submission and submit again. If you are having trouble and cannot figure it out, please post your question in the race thread.
    • Users can ask the bot for the current submitted time by sending a message with the Subject: "GTP_WRS Week XX Get Entry" and any text in the body.
    • Users can delete their submitted time by sending a message with the Subject: "GTP_WRS Week XX Remove Entry" and any text in the body.
    • If you want to submit multiple times in the week that is still not a problem. Just reply to the conversation with your new time and new replay. Fetchy always uses the last submitted time as the final one.
    • See this screenshot as an example on how to submit:
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    • The deadline is Monday, May 23rd 11:59pm GMT
    • If you are unsure of the deadline try this site
    Why Use GMT?:


    GMT is World Time and the basis of every world time zone which sets the time of day and is at the centre of the time zone map. GMT sets current time or official time around the globe. Most time changes are measured by GMT. Although GMT has been replaced by atomic time (UTC) it is still widely regarded as the correct time for every international time zone.
    Replay Checking:
    • Everyone is required to submit a replay for verification. This happens when you submit to the Fetchbot, and the replays will be visible in the leaderboard, once we've reached the event deadline
    • Participants will be expected to check each others' replays for cleanliness, for replays marked in the Results thread as (Check Needed)
    • Video replays are not accepted as a form of verification
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    Good luck, :gtplanet:
    OLR Team
     
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  2. mistersafeway

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    Sounds amazing, can't wait to give it a go. :tup:
     
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  3. epic_apri_39

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    Can't wait to give this a go, I've always loved the JGTC cars, although moreover the NSXs.
     
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  4. StigsTC

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    Why do I get the feeling that I am somewhat responsible for the regulations of this event...
    Not going to lie, I though S-4 was referring to an Audi not a licence test, very relieved its the latter.
     
  5. epic_apri_39

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    Stock and initial splits, BB 7:10

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  6. Mr P

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    Had some laps after work...

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    Hard to resist this track :D off to bed before I'm due in again haha :irked:
     
  7. steven

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    Great track and nice to fiddle with the setup. R1's might have been nice for a change Pekka :)
     
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  8. Kelly

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    Couldn't resist :D

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    Lots of twiddling with set up to do still, trying to find what suits me best :tup:
     
  9. Kelly

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    better

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  10. deaconblues82

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    Starting with-

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    I'm rubbish at tuning So I'll probably just end up making the car slower as the week goes on.
     
  11. Thematic

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    The car's so driveable - to me - that I figured out the most important things in about a dozen laps.

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    Ha_ df 350/500.
     
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  12. deaconblues82

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    One more go for the night. Sans downforce...

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  13. Thematic

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    I keep getting slower in the first sector. Maybe I should hold on to that replay file.

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  14. GTP_Dutchy

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  15. volvodriver

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    Regretting choosing this week as the week i get back into it considering i suck at tuning but hey, what the hell.
     
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  16. roamer2629

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    Very nice combo Pekka. Slapped a basic miny stiggy tune to it until someone who knows what he is doing posts a propper tune. Lowered df a bit too. Will have some splits later today.
     
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  17. Mr P

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    Seems I have not much to gain on this combo, my top 8 times are separated by .054 :odd: :irked:
     
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  18. steven

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    My leaderboard splits should be removed as I appeared to have fiddled with the tranny settings :(
     
  19. deaconblues82

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    Still trying to find a balanced setup that works for the entire track.
    I am finding some small gains though.

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  20. BenMillard

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    3 laps, standard everything, just oil change and brakes 4/5:

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    Immense traction and stable braking from Sport Soft tyres but quite numb mid corner. Really does feel like GT2. :lol:

    Licence tests have no tuning at all. But at least this WRS version lets us get rid of the 10 40 20 LSD. Keeps the power level suited to the vehicle, without power limiters, is nice to see as well.

    My driving will certainly find more time. The first sector was near my limit with standard tune. The rest was not near the available performance of the vehicle.

    Suspension, downforce and LSD plus doing more than 3 laps should let my time tumble. Looking forwards to the process!

    EDIT: Having done all the tests from major GT releases, this is one I remember. Was the time just very tight to get gold?
     
  21. BenMillard

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    Random guess tune (for the allowed areas) and a single flying lap: 1.6 faster at the line. Tune makes a huge difference in GT6.

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  22. Thematic

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    Extreme prejudice 828/95 km.

    "Losing is fun"
     
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  23. 8l23ub

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  24. Mike458

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    Why can't we have the full 700 BHP that it had in GT2? :(

    Will give this a try sooner or later, need to first learn how to drive (again) on iRacing...
     
  25. epic_apri_39

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    Remove my time please, I'm in Racing Hards.
     
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  26. GTP_Dutchy

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    So that makes Mr & Ms number 1 and 2 for now :p
     
  27. Mr P

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    Funnily enough I actually suggested to Kel that epic may have run with default RH tyres before I saw the post above as it was so damn fast for stock :eek: I didn't want to suggest it in a post just incase Doodle or some other Goldie came right after i post it and kill us by a second to T2... I would have felt rather silly haha :D:tup:
     
  28. GTP_randy

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    Fun combo :tup: Still a lot of time left out there though

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    Here's the tune I came up with,it's not much but it's something to start with.I started with the basic mini-stiggy tune and tweaked it some

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    1 1
    7 7
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    BB 3/5

    LSD 5/15/5

    DF 300/350
     
  29. epic_apri_39

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    Until they're removed, here are some fake splits

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  30. monkeywall

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    Finally got some free time today but only today, think I'll stealing this as a start. Thanks randy :tup: back soon with a slow time :lol:

    (EDIT) It's mad how things can change in 30mons ain't going to get the chance to do this till after the EU race
     
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