GTP_WRS Week 20 : Official Results

Discussion in 'WRS Archive' started by JoostBaksteen, Jul 5, 2011.

  1. Hydro

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    Thanks, is it that obvoious I was braking hard? Keeping this car on track was really tough for me so I played it better safe than spin (again...and again..).
    I can see from other replays that I needed a more aggressive line too.
    Great week for pointers:tup:.
     
  2. teecro

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    I don't know if you were braking excessively hard or not, I know when I brake it is usually hard and late, so I'm not one to talk there:lol: I just saw a lot of breaking where you could've let off and gas and the deceleration would've slowed you down enough. :tup:
     
  3. WRP001

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    Easily clean lap with no trips to photo mode required :sly:

    Comparing our laps in data analyzer clearly illustrates EDK's point about my too aggressive braking and dropping speed too fast and a bit too low in some of the turns. I made up for it through the end of T2 with decent exits, but 130R definitely put you out front and my slow speed through Casio finished me off. Gravitron, you stayed in 3rd through Casio completely and maintained a higher min speed than me throughout that section. I actually did experiment with shifting to 3rd early in Casio on some laps, but never tried to enter in 3rd. On my "hot lap" I was being too cautious not to blow the lap.

    When I'm purple in both the first two sectors I tend to tense up :scared: a bit on the final few critical spots. I think I might psychologically be better off being a few hundredths off my best through T2 and then going for broke :mad: in T3

    Congratz on the podium. I'll work on my braking technique (and my time submitting technique) and try to make it harder on you next time. :cheers:
     
  4. WRP001

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    It wasn't a podium in any case. By the rules I submitted a time that didn't match my replay so probably should just disqualify the lap even if my clean lap was faster than what I submitted. I had the replay of the 2'19.791 saved, but dumped it for my better lap.

    I've gotten a ton out of this week regardless. Technically I wasn't required to post a replay, but the advice I got from EDK by doing so was well worth getting disqualified :)
     
  5. teecro

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    I didn't even realize you weren't required to post. I just saw NTSC and a replay attatched so I said lets do it. :lol:
     
  6. WRP001

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    Probably better for my handicap if my lap IS disqualified :idea: I would have been at or under my handicap if I had posted correctly, but that extra 0.6 cost me.
     
  7. EDK

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    Since you used my tune, I'll tell you what it was set up for.

    I like to have the MR's set up so that the back of car turning action occurs in reaction to throttle input. The more throttle, the more understeer. The less throttle, the more oversteer. This requires a smooth transition when changing throttle input, where you are adjusting it as you feed in steering angle.

    I noticed when I put my lap in data logger next to WRP's that in the esses, my throttle input almost looks erratic in comparison to his, but that's the reason. I'm using the throttle to steer the car through there, to a great degree.

    As mentioned, it creates some compromise, where the car setup might not be optimum in other areas of the track, so you have to learn to manage it with some counter steering to keep from spinning.

    Ultimately, try driving where you feed in more throttle when you feel a spin coming, and back off when you start to understeer, all in 4th through the esses, and see if that improves your trip through there. :tup:

    For WRP's lap, I'll put it up for discussion with the other admins.
     
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  8. boediebouer

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    Speedy, wow!!!!, thanks for that video, looking very nice, you must show me how to do that :sly: super to see all the laps at the same time. :tup:
     
  9. Gravitron

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    Thanks teecro and WRP001 for the replay check!

    Look forward to more close competition with you. :cheers: .024 behind WRP001 at the moment on WRS 21. Need less smoke from the tires, for sure!
     
  10. WRP001

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    The video is awesome. It's amazing to see how close the battle was for 2nd and in particular sector 3 and the ever so slight back and forth there between wayna & CICO. Those two replays were synchronized to within a thousand of a second which makes it even better.
     
  11. DDiamond

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    Nice work, Speedy!!
     
  12. JoostBaksteen

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    Great video Speedy! And great write-up Kevin!
     
  13. pyxen

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    Thanks Kev! I agree with the agressiveness part of it..I still have trouble 'catching' the throttle on exit, and have been working on my transition from brake back to throttle.. I think that's also part of my lines issue, where I try and ease into it too much, instead of getting a nice solid flick into the corner to start the turning.

    I found this car a little too twitchy at times, so would push a bit too hard and find myself with one tire off in the grass, which would just pull me all the way off or I'd over correct and send me skidding across the track :p

    I appreciate the check and the notes!
     
  14. T13R

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    Congrats to all podiums and JBrinkley for the D3 win. My beginning of the week effort would have put me 4th in D3, but I knew there was a lot of time to come off and thought I would for sure have another run before the deadline and I didn't. I'm sorry I didn't submit a time, but I don't want to do the same as I did on the qualifier, it's not representative.
     
  15. DDiamond

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    Periodically, I will try and find special occasions to spotlight certain situations, as Speedy does a magnificent job relating to the top "aliens."

    Here is a look at the D3 podiums!!

    EDIT: Oops!! Uploaded a project file.....should have checked it but I was needing sleep!

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  16. EDK

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    Cool idea. I was thinking how funny it was that they all look the same. Then I looked in full screen HD, and realized they ARE all the same. See the lap time in the top right corner, all 3 are 2'18.827. Something must've gone wrong in your process.
     
  17. Gravitron

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    Hey Dan, if you *do* end up re-doing the video, you, um, might want to check who got, ahem, 3rd place in D3. :dopey:

    But thanks a million for doing that, no way in hell I could figure that out... :tup:
     
  18. DDiamond

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    Been a while since I produced one of these. Hopefully, they will be better in the future.


    Here is a look at this week's D3 podiums!!
     
  19. GTP_CICO

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    Thanks for the check Phil & Ealirendur :cheers:.

    Nice write up Kev :D, great video from Speedy and DDiamond always good to watch :tup:.
     
  20. jbrinkley0826

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    cool videos, thanks for doing those. Especially the D3... :-)
     
  21. Speedy6543

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    Nice video Dan!!! :tup:
     
  22. Gravitron

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    Thanks Dan! Amazing and very insightful.

    Nice driving jbrinkley and teecro. :tup:
     
  23. WRP001

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    :idea: Take the best highlights from the posted replays, add timely voice overs with text from Kevin's walk through and you have yourself a video:

    "Suzuka: The WRS Method"​

    Might be sticky level status too :sly:
     
  24. Speedy6543

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    I think it's a very good idea :tup:
    but also very time consuming unfortunatly :crazy:
     
  25. WRP001

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    No doubt! I used to produce windsurfing videos (just hobby) and they took forever... but that was before kids and not to mention you can't windsurf at night so I didn't lose any time on the water... good thing about sim racing (or bad depending on your point of view) is that you can do it anytime/all the time!
     
  26. DDiamond

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    Thanks for catching the "oops." It was past my bedtime. :sly:
    Looking forward to digesting your insightful post previous page.

    Thanks, guys, I've had some free time this week...still working on my G27. :indiff:

    Yes, sir, it surely does take time, especially when dealing with HD. I quit doing 1080HD and only do 720 unless the vid is very short, because it takes so much time rendering and uploading, even with high speed internet.

    Still an interesting angle, WRP001, [sorry, don't know your name yet] and maybe some scaled-down ideas could come out of it. :tup:
     
  27. WRP001

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    Tim -- easier to type than WRP001 for sure. Not sure where to put that on profile so people can see it.
     
  28. DDiamond

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    At the top right of the page, go to "My GTP Planet", select "edit details" and replace "Junior Member" with Tim:




    ...or you could put it in your sig.
     
  29. MadMax

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    Thanks for the reminder JoostBaksteen and sorry for the hold up.


    here's my replay: (RPL017)
     

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  30. JoostBaksteen

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    Thanks for posting Max, but i'm going to have to red flag you:

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    (Just before the degner tunnel)

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