GTP_WRS Week 39 : It's all in the Kei-dance!

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  1. Argon

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    GTSport Week 39 : It's all in the Kei-dance!

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    Hotlap Event in Arcade Mode Time Trial

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    Honda S660 '15

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    Willow Springs International Raceway : Streets of Willow Springs II

    :: Open to All GTPlanet Registry Members ::

    :: Members are not obligated to take part ::

    Overview (How Does This Work?):
    • You must be part of our registry to participate.
    • These are Time Trial Events, we have Online Races here.
    • Set the game up according to the event, car and track details below.
    • Save Your BEST LAP replay before exiting your session.
    • Be sure and run cleanly to the end of the first sector after setting your fast lap. If you exit right away, your time stamp may not show up in your replay.
    • Report your split times in here, so you can compare your pace to other racers, without revealing the full lap time.
    • Our leaderboard shows how you stack up during the week, before the deadline.
    • Submit your lap via PM to our Fetchbot, before the event deadline.
    • On deadline day, we will publish the results in our leaderboard and in a thread in this section.
    • Identified replays will be checked by your fellow participants to be sure you meet the event regulations.

    Race Details:
    • Mode: Arcade Mode > Time Trial
    • Track: Willow Springs International Raceway : Streets of Willow Springs II
    • Car Type: Garage Car
    • Make: Honda
    • Model: S660 '15
    • Max Power HP: 63 (Stock)
    • Weight: 1,830 lbs / 830 kg (stock)
    Driving Options:
    • Transmission: Auto or Manual
    • Tires: Comfort Medium (front and rear)
    • Driving Line, Cones, Markers: Optional
    • Traction Control | ASM | ABS: Optional
    • Brake Balance: Optional
    • Countersteering Assist: Prohibited
    • Tuning: No Tuning Allowed: Power and weight are to be stock.
    • In-Race Multi-Function Display (MFD) Functions: Optional
    • Custom Wheels: Allowed
    • Paint and Racing #: Livery editor Allowed
    Course Settings:
    • Time: Optional

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    Standard Clean OLR Rules (These Apply to ALL Events):
    • The event MUST be run using your registered PSN account.
    • The use of the clutch is strictly prohibited.
    • Use of the Handbrake is Prohibited.
    • No Contact with walls or other objects. Any contact with walls, no matter how minor, will result in a DQ.
    • At Least 2 Tires must be in contact with track at all times (See image below).
      • In situations where contact with the track is not possible because tires are airborne (above the ground), then the run is only legal if at least two tires in-line would have made contact with the track if the car were not airborne.
      • If track contact cannot be 100% determined, then consider it dirty.
    • Rumble/ripple strips are part of the track.
    • No contact with walls or objects, visible or invisible.
    • If you're not 100% sure that your lap is clean, then consider it dirty.
    • No hybrids.
    • No cheating of any kind,these are relaxed races and we are experienced racers, we know what times can be done,and we can read your mind. We will know.
    • Nothing that goes against the spirit of the rules.

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    Race Specifics (Rules for This Specific Event):
    • Red and White Rumble Strips and Tarmac are Track Surface. No other surfaces are track.
    • White lines denote track boundary except where backed by rumble strips.
    • Permanent track marker cones (Red) may not be touched.

    Steward's Comments:

    Finding the balance between speed and grip for the magical cadence (Kei-dance) is going to be key this week. Learn to use the track to your advantage and it will reward you with ever faster lap times.

    Saving Replays, Viewing sector times and Submissions:
    • You need to make sure you use the 'Save Best Lap Replay' (ghost replay), not the 'Save Replay' (See pic below).
    • Before saving your replay ensure that you continue running after completing your fast lap until at least the end of first sector. This will ensure you have a complete replay.
    • To view your best lap replay, go to 'My Library' and watch the replay from there using the 'Replays' option.
    • While viewing your Replay, enter the live timing screen to view your sector splits. You will need to do this after your car has passed the sector markers to see it listed.
    • Simply post the splits that are shown in the live timing screen, and our Fetchbot will parse them and add them together for your total sector time.
    • When saving your fastest lap replay please ensure that you watch the replay to the end and that it displays your full lap time. Any replays submitted that do not show the posted lap time will result in a DQ.
    • Remember - When you submit your time you're also declaring that your run is 100% clean. We request replays for the purpose of verifying to all those concerned that the drivers claim is correct, which in turn safeguards the integrity of the driver, and just as importantly, the WRS. The golden rule is to check your replay before submission. If you’re still unsure, check it again, ask for a second opinion and if you’re still undecided, run the lap again.

    (Best Lap Replay Save)

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    Thread rules:

    The following information cannot be discussed in this thread (they can, however, be discussed on Skype or via other private IM service.):
    • Total Lap Time.
    • Any information which can be used to infer your total lap time.
    • If you choose to Share your Best-Lap Replay via GT Sport before the deadline,your full lap time will be considered to be shared publicly which contravenes our rules. Even if you've only shared with Friends.
    The following information can be discussed in this thread :
    • The first 3 sectors: T1, T2 and T3 times.
    • Any settings discussion.

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    Submission:

    All submissions must be sent by PM (Subject title: GTP_WRS Week 39 Submission ) to (WRSFetchbot):
    • Please submit your FULL LAP TIME in the following format on a single line:
      X:XX.XXX
      (Example-) 1:10.100
    • You will get an automated response within 15min, letting you know whether your submission was accepted, or if you had an error.
    • For those of you who were used to submitting replays on GT6, you no longer have the ability to export the files.
    • If you have an error, don't panic. Just review the instructions for submission and submit again. If you are having trouble and cannot figure it out, please post your question in the race thread.
    • Users can ask the bot for the current submitted time by sending a message with the Subject: "GTP_WRS Week XX Get Entry" and any text in the body.
    • Users can delete their submitted time by sending a message with the Subject: "GTP_WRS Week XX Remove Entry" and any text in the body.
    • If you want to submit multiple times in the week just reply to the conversation with your new time. Fetchy always uses the last submitted time as the final one.
    • The deadline is Monday, August 27th 2018 11:59pm GMT
    • If you are unsure of the deadline try this site.
    Why Use GMT?:
    GMT is World Time and the basis of every world time zone which sets the time of day and is at the centre of the time zone map. GMT sets current time or official time around the globe. Most time changes are measured by GMT. Although GMT has been replaced by atomic time (UTC) it is still widely regarded as the correct time for every international time zone.

    Replay Checking:
    • Division winners and overperformers will be required to submit a replay via the GT Sport Share function for verification AFTER Unofficial Results have been posted.
    • Participants will be expected to check each others' replays for cleanliness, for replays marked in the Results thread as (Replay Verify Required).
    • Video/Youtube/Twitch replays are not accepted as a form of verification.

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    Good luck, :gtplanet:
    WRS Team
     
  2. Infernuz

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    - Manual
    - Kei car
    - Willow springs
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  3. EDK

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    :lol:

    However, quick question.

    When you say manual, does that mean you intend to use an H shifter and the clutch?

    The clutch is prohibited.
     
  4. suprajef

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    Null and void on this car anyway
     
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  5. EDK

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    On the Honda Kei car?
     
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  6. suprajef

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    In the sport mode race it was shifting very fast
     
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  7. EDK

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    Gotcha.
     
  8. Infernuz

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    Oh....oh....
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    I forgot about it and understood the reason shortly after.
    Will still have fun :rolleyes:
    Edit: in the online manual it says that the h shifter can be used without the clutch as well. So, using a shifter's allowed, right?
     
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  9. EDK

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    Sorry, it provides an actual advantage in many cases.
     
  10. Small_Fryz

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    First run.

    Don't know the track so I have no idea how good this may be!

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    I've seen .2 better at T1 already but good to get something on the board.
     
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  11. suprajef

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    You can use the h shifter without the clutch, it shifts just like the paddles if you don't use the clutch
     
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  12. roamer2629

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    Don't worry dude, nobody knows the track :lol:
     
  13. GTP_randy

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    I didn't even know there was a reverse version.:dunce:
     
  14. RACECAR

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    This is somehow funnier when you look at this while the sound of Mario jumping is in your head :lol:
     
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  15. JamCar0ne

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    Never driven the reverse version of the track, :idea: thought I'd try turning on the cones to help find corner apexes...:eek: Don't think I ever saw one, there are sooo many cones out there anyway. :lol:

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  16. Small_Fryz

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    Another crack!!

    At least now I have found the apex's and turn in points! :lol:

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    Seen .4xx T1's so more to come yet!

    Now I'm just waiting until an Alien comes along and shows me how wrong I'm doing the lap :lol:
     
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  17. ColinNZ

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    Who even knew you could run this track in reverse? So many cones ... and boy does this car protest when you change down to second gear, especially with those CM tires. It's going to be a long week.

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  18. Tristan Jones

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    Haha gotta love the kei car idea.

    Another 0.4 from optimum, but if I get a few sessions before endnotes the week I should be able to keep momentum up a bit. Any suggestions on bb?

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  19. EDK

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    @suprajef already replied, but I just wanted to confirm what he said.

    Yes, using the H shifter without the clutch is allowed.
     
  20. _r_p_m_

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    How does using the clutch make you quicker out of interest?
     
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  21. General_Edead

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    Never even driven this track or car!! And comfort tyres...oh boy lol fun times haha
     
  22. roamer2629

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  23. suprajef

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    Shifts between gears are noticeably faster by about a second a lap on most places
     
  24. EDK

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    And didn't you say you can downshift with the paddles while keeping the H in a higher gear, and then the upshift is just pushing the clutch in and releasing?
     
  25. suprajef

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    Yes, helps a lot, learned that one from @MadMax
     
  26. EDK

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    The "clutch bug" began with the first GT Academy events, which were stand alone game installations. It existed somewhat on GT5 Prologue, but was more pronounced on the GT Academy, to the extent that one could not place among the top drivers without using it.

    The advantage provided by the clutch has varied over time, but we don't want to put ourselves in the position of having to test, assess, and police it.

    It's been banned from WRS since Prologue, and it's likely to stay that way.

    More than anything, we don't want to provide one more advantage to drivers who have a wheel and and H shifter over drivers who use a controller or lower end wheel.
     
  27. shoenboggie

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    Still a bit lost going this direction...

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  28. _r_p_m_

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    Thanks for the explanation. Always seen it and never thought to question it. Interesting stuff! So when I see the top times of the day on sport mode, they could well be using this bug?
     
  29. suprajef

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    Possibly, only benefits certain cars
     
  30. EDK

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    Sounds like mainly road cars, especially those that shift slowly, benefit from it.

    For example, the Ferrari 250 GTO that was used at Brands last week.